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It took me a few weeks, but I finally figured out what was used to create my 15+ year old tapes... G3 Power Mac, MacOS 9.2.2, Retrospect 5.1. That's right, this is basically peak backup nightmare. Note that this office is, and has always been, 100% Windows PCs and servers. Apparently the guy who handled the IT stuff way back then was a huge Apple fan, so he bought a Mac to do all the backups. I can't even begin to count the number of iterations of SCSI cards, OS X versions, VMware versions, Power Macs, etc... I went through to finally work my way back to something that did the trick. In the end, a guy in the office remembered he had an old G3 Mac in his shed that he bought from the office years ago for $5 when they were clearing out old equipment. He brought it in, and I'm pretty sure I'm actually using the exact Mac that originally did the backups all those years ago. Oh well, I've never actually used OS9 before, so it's an interesting visit to retro land.
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 09:51 |
Wow that's a hell of a ride
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JBark posted:Nightmares I had something similar, though not nearly as bad. Had the new backup server all fat and happy, shiny new LTO-5 tape deck attached. Got a request to pull a bunch of data off these old LTO-3 tapes. Tapes were apparently made using an old, lovely version of Backup Exec. lovely old backup server doesn't have a PCI-E slot for the new SAS card, so I can't hook up the tape deck. Can't P2V the lovely backup server, because I can't do hardware passthrough on my Hyper-V hosts. Swore, a lot. Eventually I found an iSCSI tape re-director from Starwind that was free, loaded it up on the new backup server, and was able to publish the tape deck and tape changer to an iSCSI LUN and attach it to the lovely old backup server. Much rejoicing was had. Then I dumped the contents of every single old-rear end tape to scratch disk, and backed it up to new tapes. The old ones were turned into reactive range targets. Now I use a similar iSCSI tape redirection thing to backup my home crap to tape, which is incidentally what I'll be doing for the next 6-10 days.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:This Black Friday I want to get an SSD and something approaching a backup system. For backups, a full-blown NAS is out of the current budget (maybe I'll ask larches about Buffalo's offerings ). I'm thinking of getting a ~2tb external for now. Is there a way to keep it hooked up physically, but only have it recognized when I actually want it to back up? I want to automate backups, but not have it connected 24/7 in case of cryptowall. I could write a batch or powershell script for it if I need to, I just want to make sure the idea is feasible. What about making the backup destination read-only to your normal user account, and configure a special user account for the backup job to run as?
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22 Eargesplitten posted:This Black Friday I want to get an SSD and something approaching a backup system. For backups, a full-blown NAS is out of the current budget (maybe I'll ask larches about Buffalo's offerings ). I'm thinking of getting a ~2tb external for now. Is there a way to keep it hooked up physically, but only have it recognized when I actually want it to back up? I want to automate backups, but not have it connected 24/7 in case of cryptowall. I could write a batch or powershell script for it if I need to, I just want to make sure the idea is feasible. What I immediately thought of:
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# ? Dec 2, 2015 22:49 |
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NihilCredo posted:What I immediately thought of: That's pretty nice solution, you just need to make sure the drive is unmounted before the power is cut. Or as a more advanced solution use a Raspberry Pi controlled power outlet.
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Saukkis posted:That's pretty nice solution, you just need to make sure the drive is unmounted before the power is cut. I wonder if you can get PSUs that have like 5 seconds of battery and can send an emergency unmount signal. For much cheaper than a UPS.
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# ? Dec 3, 2015 09:56 |
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If you wanted to store an extra copy of your really important data in a bank safe (or a hole in the ground), and you couldn't afford tape, which storage medium is most likely to retain data integrity after many years offline? SSDs? HDDs? Pen drives? e: assuming you can find a SATA-to-USB 9.0 adapter in 2040, naturally. NihilCredo fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Dec 4, 2015 |
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NihilCredo posted:If you wanted to store an extra copy of your really important data in a bank safe (or a hole in the ground), and you couldn't afford tape, which storage medium is most likely to retain data integrity after many years offline? SSDs? HDDs? Pen drives? For a few years a HD would probably be okay from the list you mentioned, but they make stuff like the M-DISC optical disks for long term use. They haven't been around long enough to prove that they're that reliable, but nothing has. http://www.mdisc.com/
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You need to store extras of whatever reads that media, and whatever that thing plugs in to, and whatever software it needs, and an dand and
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NihilCredo posted:If you wanted to store an extra copy of your really important data in a bank safe (or a hole in the ground), and you couldn't afford tape, which storage medium is most likely to retain data integrity after many years offline? SSDs? HDDs? Pen drives? I wouldn't trust anything flash-based past 5 years. Some of the better stuff is rated at 10 or 20 years retention unpowered, but even still flash isn't really intended for very long term data storage.
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# ? Dec 4, 2015 21:13 |
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thebigcow posted:You need to store extras of whatever reads that media, and whatever that thing plugs in to, and whatever software it needs, and an dand and Don't forget extra power plugs too just in case. And those converters in case we switch over to the European style.
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Rexxed posted:For a few years a HD would probably be okay from the list you mentioned, but they make stuff like the M-DISC optical disks for long term use. They haven't been around long enough to prove that they're that reliable, but nothing has. Ooh, right, I've been optical-drive-less for several years now so I totally forgot those existed. Their price/GB is in the same ballpark as an SSD, so not too bad, especially if you don't need terabytes of storage.
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computer parts posted:Don't forget extra power plugs too just in case. And those converters in case we switch over to the European style. Look pal, I don't have an AIT drive or Veritas BackuExec for Netware anymore so those tapes are basically useless
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# ? Dec 5, 2015 01:00 |
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Finally got my LTO-4 drive up and running. Currently using Cygwin/tar to write to it, is there any decent Windows software that doesn't cost funbux available? I mean, after the price of the drive et al it's not the end of the world but I'd rather not drop $150+ on grade-A crap.
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# ? Dec 15, 2015 12:03 |
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So I need to finally tackle cloud backups for my 8+TB of files. So far Crash plan has popped up a lot, so I am trying it but the more I read about it the more issues I read about. Is it the currently the goon 'unlimited' cloud backup choice? [edit] Just my files, not business. redeyes fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Dec 26, 2015 |
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I have a gig to consolidate 1.35TB of data spread over five computers and a NAS to a single location. Sadly the password for the NAS was lost so I can only use the network because I am not playing the manual's "reset without destroying data, honest!" gambit. I was wondering what the best Windows tool would be to copy that stuff over the network reliably. Seeing how this will take a whole weekend I don't want to babysit the transfer all the time. At most I want to pop in twice a day to check. I know there's richcopy but that hasn't been updated since 2009.
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# ? Dec 28, 2015 11:19 |
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Riso posted:I have a gig to consolidate 1.35TB of data spread over five computers and a NAS to a single location. Robocopy with whatever settings for retries seems appropriate to you and write a log file so you can see the failures.
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# ? Dec 28, 2015 18:04 |
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thebigcow posted:Robocopy with whatever settings for retries seems appropriate to you and write a log file so you can see the failures. I swear, there has GOT to be a decent GUI for robocopy. Or at least something with a decent gui for drag and dropping. I used to use SuperCopier back in the day before it turned into junkware.
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redeyes posted:I swear, there has GOT to be a decent GUI for robocopy. Or at least something with a decent gui for drag and dropping. I used to use SuperCopier back in the day before it turned into junkware. For everyday use, I run TeraCopy because it has the best GUI and general usability of all file-transfer utilities, by far. (The next version is currently in alpha and looks even nicer.) For Riso's use-case, however, I'd recommend UltraCopier instead (which is actually the successor to SuperCopier - I'm curious about what you mean by "junkware", they're both FOSS projects). It's a little clunkier than TeraCopy, but it has several useful features for large-scale copies. It's what I used only a week ago to copy around 2.5TB of files from my older drives to my new one.
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redeyes posted:So I need to finally tackle cloud backups for my 8+TB of files. So far Crash plan has popped up a lot, so I am trying it but the more I read about it the more issues I read about. Crashplan, Backblaze, Carbonite. All three are approximately the same, with some differences, primarily in how they handle network and external storage. Find the one that fits your needs. Riso posted:I have a gig to consolidate 1.35TB of data spread over five computers and a NAS to a single location. Robocopy. For real.
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# ? Dec 28, 2015 19:46 |
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redeyes posted:I swear, there has GOT to be a decent GUI for robocopy. Or at least something with a decent gui for drag and dropping. I used to use SuperCopier back in the day before it turned into junkware. It's the sort of thing where the only people who use it learn the options quickly enough to get the job done or script it and then stop caring.
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Ah right, robocopy. I nearly forgot that one. Thanks for the suggestions, guys. quote:I swear, there has GOT to be a decent GUI for robocopy. Or at least something with a decent gui for drag and dropping. I seem to have actually found a usable gui but it's in German only http://yarcgui.wilkes.es/
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# ? Dec 28, 2015 20:26 |
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Any outside opinions on Iperius backup? I have it running on my home server for backing up to an external disk, and it seems pretty good.
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# ? Dec 28, 2015 23:58 |
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http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product...0/10361070.aspx I can get one of those at $250CAD. Are there any issues with USB3 drives for backup purposes (specifically that one)? Other 8TB drives seem way more expensive, but I'm wondering if there's an actual reason for that. I'd be using it to do weekly backups from a 6TB FreeNAS machine to store offsite.
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# ? Dec 29, 2015 03:42 |
Coxswain Balls posted:http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product...0/10361070.aspx No particular problems. Good job on being proactive!
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My parent's home backup setup is: Computers > Crashplan Cloud Computers > NAS (via Synology Cloud Station) NAS > External HDD (weekly) NAS > Secondary Media NAS (weekly) They have two NAS devices: a Synology DS213+ and a QNAP TS-412. The DS213+ only holds photos, sync'd files, and backups. QNAP holds backups from the Synology and their media library. CrashPlan runs out in three months and I was wondering if I should switch to SpiderOak (which does file syncing) or Amazon Glacier/Amazon Cloud/Google Drive/etc? Synology looks to have a Glacier package, which would be great, because then I can backup to the cloud from the NAS, instead of their computers (which they love to turn off at night). Note that I don't live with my parents and see them once every 2-3 months, so the simpler the solution, the better (which is one pro of Crashplan). MrCodeDude fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Dec 29, 2015 |
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MrCodeDude posted:My parent's home backup setup is: If what you have works, I'd recommend sticking with that. But if price and/or convenience is a factor, Synology's glacier backup is pretty easy... You could also do that in addition to your workstation plan if you're really paranoid.
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# ? Dec 30, 2015 23:33 |
Separate post so not to get list in the big quote-reply above. Looks like someone started a referral thread for Backblaze backups over in the Deals forum. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3757569 BB is pretty good. I consider Carbonite, Crashplan, and Backblaze to all be relatively equal in the grand scheme of things for regular home use. If BB meets your needs and only price is holding you back, this is a pretty good deal!
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ConfusedUs posted:If what you have works, I'd recommend sticking with that. But if price and/or convenience is a factor, Synology's glacier backup is pretty easy... Guess it makes sense to at least try. My parent's downgraded their Internet service, so I'll probably have to send Amazon an HDD to seed. Has anyone sent their HDD to Amazon? How simple/painful is the process?
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FunOne posted:I was looking for some software that would just let me backup to my own Amazon or Google storage buckets. I'm paying a hefty price for the small number of GBs I've actually backed up, but I still want proper versioning and whatnot. Dupliciti. Works with ANYTHING.
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MrCodeDude posted:CrashPlan runs out in three months and I was wondering if I should switch to SpiderOak (which does file syncing) or Amazon Glacier/Amazon Cloud/Google Drive/etc? Here's a horror story about recovery from Amazon Glacier. How I ended up paying $150 for a single 60GB download from Amazon Glacier
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Saukkis posted:Here's a horror story about recovery from Amazon Glacier. Yeah, saw that. Luckily I didn't have time to set up Glacier at my parents' place.
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Can anyone recommend me a good/best cloud storage service? I'm not looking for a free option. I am strictly using this to be an online backup of my music library and nothing else. I do not want to be able to stream my library from the storage itself or anything like that. I just want a bucket to throw it into in case my physical drives ever fail/are stolen/etc. Total size is currently a bit north of 150 GB, and I'm on Linux. I don't need fancy native applications to interact with the storage (a la Amazon Cloud Drive), since this will hopefully be something I would only have to access in an emergency, so a web-based interface is fine.
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Curvature of Earth fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Feb 6, 2016 |
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68k posted:Can anyone recommend me a good/best cloud storage service? I'm not looking for a free option. I am strictly using this to be an online backup of my music library and nothing else. I do not want to be able to stream my library from the storage itself or anything like that. I just want a bucket to throw it into in case my physical drives ever fail/are stolen/etc. Total size is currently a bit north of 150 GB, and I'm on Linux. I don't need fancy native applications to interact with the storage (a la Amazon Cloud Drive), since this will hopefully be something I would only have to access in an emergency, so a web-based interface is fine. Crashplan
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Ok current setup for "important" data is a two-drive ZFS mirror that rsyncs nightly to the Raidz-2. The biggest downside here is all of these drives are in the same machine which is obviously bad. Anyone here using Duply/Duplicity/Boto/S3 ? I backed up and restored a small portion of data last night and it seems to work OK, but what are the long term things to worry about? Obviously the key I'm encrypting the data with is now just as important as the data, along with whatever other metadata this house of cards needs to actually understand and retrieve the data. Do I need a separate off-site backup of the duply directory itself?
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68k posted:Can anyone recommend me a good/best cloud storage service? I'm not looking for a free option. I am strictly using this to be an online backup of my music library and nothing else. I do not want to be able to stream my library from the storage itself or anything like that. I just want a bucket to throw it into in case my physical drives ever fail/are stolen/etc. Total size is currently a bit north of 150 GB, and I'm on Linux. I don't need fancy native applications to interact with the storage (a la Amazon Cloud Drive), since this will hopefully be something I would only have to access in an emergency, so a web-based interface is fine. Well, Google Music is free, but it'd be a good solution for only 150 GB of music. It can hold up to 50,000 songs. I have all my stuff in iTunes Match, but prior to trusting Match I threw all of my stuff in Google Music and it was fine. It saves your custom tags and file names without issue. Upload and downloaded is handled through the web interface at play.google.com. I also have it all backed up with my documents in Spideroak. But yeah, if you want to spend money - Crashplan should cool.
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Yea, Crashplan does seem like a good thing to look into. I forgot to mention that I would like to store hi-res album artwork, as well. Thanks for the recommendations!
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I have been rethinking my backup solution lately. I'm a graphic designer and keep current work backed up in the Adobe Cloud, and old work on Dropbox and then having a 1TB WD MyPassport drive backing up a third copy of everything locally. However I've been finding lately that the external drive probably wasn't really meant for this use and it's randomly been disappearing. So I was wondering what is a good external hard drive for backing stuff up? Also in general how should I be backing stuff up, I've just been using the Windows 10 file history and Windows 7 Disk backup to write to that external drive. But I suppose I need to be able to have multiple versions of a system image backed up?
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