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54 | 26.60% |
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57 | 28.08% |
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56 | 27.59% |
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drunken officeparty posted:http://beyondthesummit.tv/the-summit-4-talent-list/ from context I think you mean like snake oil salesman or something? I don't think medicine man has the connotation you're looking for...
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drunken officeparty posted:http://beyondthesummit.tv/the-summit-4-talent-list/ Gross, SirActionSlacks is gonna be there 
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Dec 4, 2015 19:19
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god bless u mozart
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Dec 4, 2015 19:20
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whew at least there's a countdown up so I can mute the stream
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Dec 4, 2015 19:32
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jBrereton posted:The man has won major dota tournaments worth $$$ lately, I think his highs are sufficient. So your logic is that Secret, the team that was winning a bunch of tourneys and went to TI as the early favorites before EE was scavenged, is now winning tournaments because EE joined? I think their current success has very little to do with EE compared to how much the rest of the team contributes individually. Hell, I think Secret would have more wins, especially at Frankfurt, if EE weren't there. But, whatever. This horse is dead.
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Dec 4, 2015 19:40
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Zurreco posted:So your logic is that Secret, the team that was winning a bunch of tourneys and went to TI as the early favorites before EE was scavenged, is now winning tournaments because EE joined? I think their current success has very little to do with EE compared to how much the rest of the team contributes individually. Hell, I think Secret would have more wins, especially at Frankfurt, if EE weren't there. I don't normally get into these slapfights but lol, a bunch of the games at Grankfurt were won explicitly because EE. you are wrong like i don't even really care for ee i think he is a weab bozo but there if you replaced EE with any other player in the world, they would have lost to EG in those games, no other carry would have played those games the way he did and found the win~ Ambivalent fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Dec 4, 2015 |
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Dec 4, 2015 19:58
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Zurreco posted:So your logic is that Secret, the team that was winning a bunch of tourneys and went to TI as the early favorites before EE was scavenged, is now winning tournaments because EE joined? I think their current success has very little to do with EE compared to how much the rest of the team contributes individually. Hell, I think Secret would have more wins, especially at Frankfurt, if EE weren't there. At least he has something to back up the argument, Secret has been winning tournaments and is arguably the best team in the world post-TI5. You're argument is basically "I've seen some EE memes so that guy is terrible and every game Secret loses is because of him. Haha good luck countering that!" Also, do you not realize that current Secret only has 1 member from TI5 Secret? What does their winning tourneys pre-TI5 and going in as the favorite have to do with anything? Rtz, Zai, Kuroky and S4 are gone.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:01
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drunken officeparty posted:http://beyondthesummit.tv/the-summit-4-talent-list/ stop inviting siractionslacks to poo poo goddamn
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Dec 4, 2015 20:08
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SF with no CS at 4 minutes 
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Dec 4, 2015 20:27
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EE won the EG series by playing the double Rapier Ember pretty well, I'll give him that. He then hosed up enough in the grand finals and effectively lost the series for his team. That's the onus that carries have, but it's also disproportiobate for him. If people honestly think that EE is not the weakest individual player on Secret because his team wins games, so be it. It's not like I haven't been watching pro dotes for a long time to develop these opinions. If you think I'm just bandwagoning because I saw a photo or two in this thread, I don't know what to tell you.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:36
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Zurreco posted:EE won the EG series by playing the double Rapier Ember pretty well, I'll give him that. He then hosed up enough in the grand finals and effectively lost the series for his team. That's the onus that carries have, but it's also disproportiobate for him. If people honestly think that EE is not the weakest individual player on Secret because his team wins games, so be it. Dude your last post was about how we should discount Secret's success at Frankfurt with EE because a completely different team also named Secret were the favorites for TI5.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:41
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The "completely sacrifice your mid hero to get nothing done on the other lanes" strat is interesting but I'm not sure it's the play
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Dec 4, 2015 20:43
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I don't think I have ever seen Secret get stomped as hard as they are right now.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:43
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Secret are getting stomped into like dust right now, holy hell.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:43
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wtf secret holy poo poo
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Dec 4, 2015 20:46
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Groovelord Neato posted:stop inviting siractionslacks to poo poo goddamn seriously holy poo poo the fucker's insufferable
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Dec 4, 2015 20:46
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Its a completely meaningless series for Secret, they're probably just trying some poo poo out
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Dec 4, 2015 20:48
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Firebatgyro posted:Its a completely meaningless series for Secret, they're probably just trying some poo poo out It's okay to say this, but an SF with no last hits 4 minutes into the game at mid is some serious poo poo. Like not even loving around gets you that kind of total lack of farm mid.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:50
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Firebatgyro posted:Its a completely meaningless series for Secret, they're probably just trying some poo poo out how is it completely meaningless unless this is working on the theory that 'they don't really want to go to Starladder?" Was pretty sure they needed to 2-0 this?
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Dec 4, 2015 20:53
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I don't know what Envy was doing that game not helping to secure SF's early farm mid. What a garbage player. Another loss on him, to go with the two losses yesterday because of his drafts.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:53
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sandbagging till the next major
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Dec 4, 2015 20:53
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Ambivalent posted:how is it completely meaningless unless this is working on the theory that 'they don't really want to go to Starladder?" Was pretty sure they needed to 2-0 this? Oh you are right I was looking at the wrong groups. Well this next game is definitely meaningless
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Dec 4, 2015 20:54
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Radical posted:sandbagging till the next major at least pick something fun then, gosh, it's all their same normal heroes. 
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Dec 4, 2015 20:55
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Ambivalent posted:how is it completely meaningless unless this is working on the theory that 'they don't really want to go to Starladder?" Was pretty sure they needed to 2-0 this? Maybe they just really really want a rematch against OG in the Last Chance bracket.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:58
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Misery makes a tremendously bad play to feed a kill to Slardar . . .  loving Envy!
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Dec 4, 2015 21:08
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Good job Secret
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Dec 4, 2015 21:09
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Secrekt
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Dec 4, 2015 21:10
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I'm pretty sure CIS-R are winning the Winter Major
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Dec 4, 2015 21:20
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mikeraskol posted:Misery makes a tremendously bad play to feed a kill to Slardar . . . Other players on secret making mistakes does not mean that EE isn't a factor in Secret's losses. He makes some seriously terrible decisions on a regular basis. Unnecessary deaths and buybacks are a basically a staple of his play.
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Dec 4, 2015 21:20
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Whats happening
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Dec 4, 2015 21:21
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The new CIS rejects roster is actually legit, it's not just secret playing like poo poo (but that helps obviously). Iceberg is a great mid.
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Dec 4, 2015 21:21
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Secret is playing like they forgot Dota was a game that existed.
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Dec 4, 2015 21:21
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secret are just throwing on purpose, right?
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Dec 4, 2015 21:22
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Angrymantium posted:Other players on secret making mistakes does not mean that EE isn't a factor in Secret's losses. He makes some seriously terrible decisions on a regular basis. Unnecessary deaths and buybacks are a basically a staple of his play. Unnecessary deaths and buybacks are not basically a staple of his play, but putting that to the side the guy I'm making fun of said that Envy was responsible for almost all of Secret's losses. The point I'm making is that, unless you literally know nothing about Dota, that's a ridiculous thing to say. Every bad play in a game matters. Envy may have to overextend or farm dangerously because of a bad early game due to Misery playing poorly, etc.
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Dec 4, 2015 21:23
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Sometimes you have to take risks when mistakes from your team cause you to fall behind Not to say he's a perfect player at all, he does his share of dumb poo poo completely out of nowhere, but you can't just look at what he does in a vacuum and always say it's just bad decision making. Sometimes it's a risk you have to take to get back into the game, and it doesn't always work
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Dec 4, 2015 21:23
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Actually hilarious.
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Dec 4, 2015 21:28
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There it is
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mikeraskol posted:Unnecessary deaths and buybacks are not basically a staple of his play lol
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Dec 4, 2015 21:28
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Talk more about how envy is awesome and perfect
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I wonder how old Ramzes666 is, i'm betting 17
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