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starkebn posted:drat, whatever excuse they call physics in this game is so loving poo poo. Look how that Glaive is just noclip flying. It's pretty fascinating how after years of development and some 18 months of actual, "playable" Arena Commander they still don't have something as basic as the mass and flight of the ships down.
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Romes128 posted:I'd be willing to bet one of these cultists kills cr in a fit of rage if the game doesn't release or is a pile of hot poo poo. Most likely Ben. More likely Ben is being set up to be the fall guy to slow the IRS/SEC/Y2K down while Sandi and Chris-R flee to Venezuela.
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Dapper Dan posted:It puts things into perspective at just how good SC is at making money from a good number of people. And it also illustrates just how high the number spent per backer might be. Some MMO players are tryuly strange creatures. When the first "new" server in Age of Wushu came out we had people hitting the payment processor limit cap (we are speaking around 10k$ a day) complaining on the forum that they where not able to buy more things in a 24h period.
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BMan posted:Your math is suspect. How does 500k people spending $6 per day equate to $100k per day? I probably hosed it up massively, but I put as much effort and thought into it as CIG did into making a game as opposed to a concept art generator. aleksendr posted:Some MMO players are tryuly strange creatures. When the first "new" server in Age of Wushu came out we had people hitting the payment processor limit cap (we are speaking around 10k$ a day) complaining on the forum that they where not able to buy more things in a 24h period. Goddamn, yeah. That is pretty hosed. Dapper Dan fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:It's pretty fascinating how after years of development and some 18 months of actual, "playable" Arena Commander they still don't have something as basic as the mass and flight of the ships down. That behaviour seem to be a weakness of the CryEngine and probably one of the reason the better CryEngine games feature few and simpler vehicule models. MWO: Online had the ability to ram other mechs in early beta (Allowing 100 tons assault to simply plow trough 20 tons scouts) but they decided to take it out forever (after telling the community they would "fix" it for 6 months) since the physics where pretty much like what we see now in SC, tens of tons of steel machines simply bumping into each others like rubber blimps.
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dogboy posted:That is wrong in my opinion. Your job as an uncle is to totally spoil them and learn them all the bad words and concepts mommy and daddy will get red faces over once the little ones blurt them out in an proper situation. They learn all the bad words when I use those words to refer to their Lego creations and themselves.
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Sarsapariller posted:Ship with literal swords built into it for ramming decides to ram- is described as "rear end in a top hat." News at 11. FrankieGoes posted:That doesn't say "buggy" to me, it says fundamental flaw or miscalibration in physics engine. If they fix the near massless issue with collisions it would seem that it will totally bone how the thrusters work and likely totally screw up the entire flight model. The only attempted explanation I've seen so far is 'the thrusters are ridiculously powerful'. But no objects with anything like real-life physics simulation should move like that. Have they forgotten to add proper mass values to all the ships? Or do they simply not have a functioning physics model at all.
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I wish. At least they'd have more sensible furniture if that were the case…
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El Grillo posted:Can someone who has actually dared to trawl the brown sea enlighten us on the supposed reason for the complete lack of mass these ships seem to have? Or if it's not something that's discussed a lot there, post the video of the glaive and ask what the shitizens think, just to see their reactions? Mass or not, super powerful thrusters or not - inertia/momentum just doesn't work like what is shown
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Guys I don't really like to backseat mod but someone's got to get this shitshow back on track Please keep the thread rules in mind: Louisgod posted:
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Guys I don't really like to backseat mod but someone's got to get this shitshow back on track
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Enchanted Hat posted:an amount of spending too high to be rational is $1
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:It's pretty fascinating how after years of development and some 18 months of actual, "playable" Arena Commander they still don't have something as basic as the mass and flight of the ships down. No developer has ever been brave enough to produce a game without trying to make it. This is the crest of the wave.
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You never cease to amaze. EDIT: I first thought that you added googly eyes to the sausage. No, that's just the dumb logo (still good placement)
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Holy poo poo that's hosed if true. I personally still have four ships even after getting a bunch of them refunded. It completely obfuscates the number of actual accounts and makes me seriously wonder what the true amount spent per backer is. It's not true, Disco Lando is an idiot. There's no way it's possible.
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idgi is this a photoshop
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G0RF posted:Add "in millions" to your X axis and that's the perfect rejoinder. Fixed  TBH, I just used a lovely online graph maker. the (u... next to SC was "(unreleased)", but it got cut off.
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AP posted:It's not true, Disco Lando is an idiot. There's no way it's possible. 
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:idgi is this a photoshop 100% genuine screenshot plz no steal
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I met David Prowse on Sat, I have known him for a while through various things and the dude is a fuckin legend
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"Ah, my second morning snack" - Ben Lesnick
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peter gabriel posted:100% genuine screenshot plz no steal just thought i'd check ben looks a little less greasy than usual
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Xaerael posted:"Ah, my second morning snack" - Ben Lesnick Ben's so fat when he's on "Around the 'Verse", he's around the 'verse
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As an engineering major seeing shitizens try to figure out physics is painful. Also I guarantee you ships behave the way they do because they have zero/miniscule mass (depending on the game engine massless objects can't even be moved correctly, in Source massless stuff behaves very strangely)- look at all the videos of them being flung around and clipped into stuff whenever a buggy is parked underneath a ship's elevator. If they had high mass the ships would barely move but the buggy would be the thing getting flung around and clipped underground. see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7_J77m3bYw and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8nzdFvnnmY For gameplay purposes I imagine players don't impart a force on ships, but if they did you could probably shove things off the landing pads without even needing to go through the trouble of ramming them with other ships. Justin Tyme fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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Xaerael posted:Fixed Let's get it moving and ready for the presentation.. 
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I've never had man boobs, anyone here got any? What's it like?
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Can you imagine how many hours Chris is spending in the editing room for the cutscenes? He's probably gone full Kubrick in his own mind.
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Amarcarts posted:Can you imagine how many hours Chris is spending in the editing room for the cutscenes? He's probably gone full Kubrick in his own mind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiV3J_e977Q
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AP posted:It's not true, Disco Lando is an idiot. There's no way it's possible. Sure it's possible. Everything is possible if you just believe.
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Dapper Dan posted:Well, how many people do you need spending 100k per day? Lets do the math. Assuming the maximum amount of 500k people spending money on this thing per month (I seriously doubt it is more than that, but I could be wrong), they are are spending $6 a day or $180 a month or $2160 a year You hosed up the math. At $100K per day / $3M per month if you have 1 million backers you need $3 per month not per day. Hence follows 500k backers $6/month, 250k backers $12/month, etc etc. I can certainly see 30k fanatical whales each putting $100 per month to keep this charade going a long time. MeLKoR fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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MeLKoR posted:You hosed up the math. Or subscribers...
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Kegslayer posted:As if these cultists will be deterred by reality. My guess is that right before SC completely derails, Roberts will send out a final Letter for The Chairman a la the Escapist response, but blaming non-believers and publishers like EA (those vipers) for the failure. The cultists will eat it up and from henceforth they'll blame Derek Smart and goons for ruining America or whatever
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My point is that I don't think they are in any risk of going under any time soon, they can easily tap into enough pockets to keep the normal development poo poo going for years. What they might run out off is "call Gary Oldman up, fly him to London and have him do some more silly poo poo" money and that might not go well at all with Chris and Sandi.
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The only way anyone gets a look at the books is if they go bust. The only way they can go bust is if they don't fire people to cut costs when needed and all the evidence points to them being complete bastards about firing people, so with 2.0 now out or nearly out, I think they are safe for all of 2016. I know there's a chance of legal stuff happening but there's lots of things that can delay or prevent that, so there's no point even considering it. But if there's any real chance of them getting into trouble in either area I think Sandi Gardiner will immediately leave. So that's what I'm watching for.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Ben's so fat when he's on "Around the 'Verse", he's around the 'verse Your momma's so fat that she is Ben Lesnick's belt.
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 My favorite part in Wing Commander is yelling at someone in space to pull up.
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MeLKoR posted:You hosed up the math. Yup, I figured, but like I said I didn't really put all that much effort into it. IrvingWashington posted:My favorite part in Wing Commander is yelling at someone in space to pull up. I watched Spoony's review of Wing Commander and it is hilarious at how bad it is in regards to everything, from how space works to adding mystical poo poo to replacing the cast and script. He could have literally C&Ped the script from one of his games and made it for major audiences with Mark Hamil, but he cast Freddie Prince Jr. and loving Matthew Lillard.
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Madcosby posted:My guess is that right before SC completely derails, Roberts will send out a final Letter for The Chairman a la the Escapist response, but blaming non-believers and publishers like EA (those vipers) for the failure. The cultists will eat it up and from henceforth they'll blame Derek Smart and goons for ruining America or whatever "The world just wasn't ready for my dream" - Christ Roberts.
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