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Up until the 1920s the average life expectancy was somewhere near 40 so someone in "medieval" times being 36 is like the equivalent of being like 70 now.
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TommyGun85 posted:Up until the 1920s the average life expectancy was somewhere near 40 so someone in "medieval" times being 36 is like the equivalent of being like 70 now. Infant/child mortality drives that average down by a lot. For people who reached maturity, medieval life expectancy was a few decades higher, except for during the Black Death.
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It's not that people are living that much longer today, it's just a lot more people are living long.
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TommyGun85 posted:Up until the 1920s the average life expectancy was somewhere near 40 so someone in "medieval" times being 36 is like the equivalent of being like 70 now. More people died at any age. But most people either died as young children or at 60+ years of age. The number of people who actually dropped dead at 40 wasn't that much higher than today. In the Roman army, people aged 35-40 were considered the best, strongest soldiers, so it's not much like being 70. That said, it seems that in GRRM's world, 14 year olds are thought of as adults and women start worrying about infertility at like 30, so maybe Westeros people have shorter lifespans...
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Dec 7, 2015 07:43
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TommyGun85 posted:Up until the 1920s the average life expectancy was somewhere near 40 so someone in "medieval" times being 36 is like the equivalent of being like 70 now. Just precious  ------------ Now comes the fun part where we get to see which actors had better leverage with the producers now that the show isn't beholden to book plotlines anymore. I expect a lot of unnecessary Lannister twins and Margarey.
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Dec 7, 2015 07:46
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I just can't wait to see how they kill Tommen. I'm hoping sexed to death because that kid does not deserve bad things to happen to him, but we all know he will be killed/assassinated by Titty-Snake or something.
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Dec 7, 2015 16:56
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Solice Kirsk posted:I just can't wait to see how they kill Tommen. I'm hoping sexed to death because that kid does not deserve bad things to happen to him, but we all know he will be killed/assassinated by Titty-Snake or something. Head removed and replaced with the head of Ser Pounce. it's like poetry.
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Dec 7, 2015 17:01
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TK-42-1 posted:Head removed and replaced with the head of Ser Pounce. Someone on here once wrote some fanfic of frankengregor with Ser Pounce's head as one of the judges for Cersei's crimes.
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Dec 7, 2015 17:17
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TK-42-1 posted:Head removed and replaced with the head of Ser Pounce. I never thought I'd come across a person worse than gurm. You monster.
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Dec 7, 2015 17:50
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TK-42-1 posted:Head removed and replaced with the head of Ser Pounce.
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And then with all their children dead Jaime will strangle Cersei and live happily ever after with Brienne....or Pod. whichever.
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Dec 7, 2015 19:54
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Reminder that Jaime was the second of the twins to be born, thus he's a younger brother and the one Maggy refers to. Cersei just always assumes it's Tyrion because Cersei's really short-sighted and can only see the obvious.
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Dec 7, 2015 22:38
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Unlike gurm, who only writes the obvious.
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Yeah cersei would start playing nice if she knew she were in a novel - not realizing that is her tragic flaw.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Reminder that Jaime was the second of the twins to be born, thus he's a younger brother and the one Maggy refers to. Cersei just always assumes it's Tyrion because Cersei's really short-sighted and can only see the obvious. Tywin slept with women who were not his wife. I wouldn't put it past Martin to parachute a bastard in to do the deed.
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I don't think Jaime is gonna come out of the next book* alive  *the book is never coming out
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Solice Kirsk posted:Unlike gurm, who only writes the obvious. The obvious would be writing anything at all, since he's an author.
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Just another trope subverted
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Layers upon layers. This man knows how to tell a tale with out a single word!
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Dec 8, 2015 05:43
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All this time Martin secretly trained to become a painter, because he heard that a picture was worth a thousand words.
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He doesn't even seem that slow anymore since Rothfuss began.. Wait.. Name of the Wind was released 2 years after Feast of Crows, which took twice (2x) as long to write than book 3.. Wise Man's Fear was published when Dance with Dragons release date was announced Both GRRM and Rothfuss have a beard, and blog where they post stuff about not writing What does this mean????
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Dec 8, 2015 16:40
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Both would post on here if either was born after 1980.
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Both would post to reddit why they don't have time to write full forum posts*
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The comparison between the two is always hilarious to me because gurm actually has interesting story telling and things happen in his books that are harder to summarize than a couple of sentences. With Rothfuss he purposely skips over interesting aspects of the main character's story and spends thousands of pages writing about what is essentially a Quicken data file.
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Dec 8, 2015 20:01
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AtAt-de-fay posted:Tywin slept with women who were not his wife. I wouldn't put it past Martin to parachute a bastard in to do the deed. Who did he sleep with? I don't remember that.
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kcroy posted:Who did he sleep with? I don't remember that. well, Shae for one
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Er, pretty sure there's nothing hypocritical with a widower having sex nearly thirty years after his wife has died.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Er, pretty sure there's nothing hypocritical with a widower having sex nearly thirty years after his wife has died. His position on whores was pretty explicit. And yet he took his own son's sloppy seconds
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syscall girl posted:His position on whores was pretty explicit. And yet he took his own son's sloppy seconds He wanted a good girl, but needed the bad pussy.
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syscall girl posted:His position on whores was pretty explicit. And yet he took his own son's sloppy seconds And to complete the symmetry, it was, in fact, Tyrion who got all up in Tywin's guts.
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this_is_hard posted:well, Shae for one It's also not far of a stretch that Tywin may have been the Hand who built the tunnel to the brothel or at least knew about it.
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AtAt-de-fay posted:He wanted a good girl, but needed the bad pussy. Man that line is just so hilariously awful.
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geeves posted:It's also not far of a stretch that Tywin may have been the Hand who built the tunnel to the brothel or at least knew about it. Unless Chataya's brothel has been there before Aerys' reign it was almost certainly Tywin. Otoh, it's not that unlikely that the place has always been a high class brothel and that Chataya is simply the most recent owner.
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this_is_hard posted:well, Shae for one She was always tywin's lover. She was just playing the long con.
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Did Tywin acknowledge shae at all on the toilet? When she woke up all she said was "m'lord" right? Even varys is a lord, she could have been just about to thank him for letting her sleep in that bed, just stuck her there while tywin was making GBS threads himself to death for laughs and to see what would happen?
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Why is this thread a weak in? I joined this thread a week in, why is this weak?
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Krinkle posted:Did Tywin acknowledge shae at all on the toilet? When she woke up all she said was "m'lord" right? Even varys is a lord, she could have been just about to thank him for letting her sleep in that bed, just stuck her there while tywin was making GBS threads himself to death for laughs and to see what would happen? She was naked and had clearly been asleep for longer than the time a typical adult spends on the John. It's kind of suprising that it never comes up, outside of one Cersei chapter mentioning that she had some guards dump the body. Not even Tyrion gives it a thought after learning that Tysha is wherever whores go.
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well tywin wasnt on the john for a typical adult timeframe, because he was poisoned in a manner that prevented him from making GBS threads.
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So, Jon undeads, Bran starts being a tree, Cersei is awkward as gently caress because bad writing all over and none of us will see Rickon Walnutsbane. I'm ready for the new season. Thoughts?
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rejutka posted:So, Jon undeads, Bran starts being a tree, Cersei is awkward as gently caress because bad writing all over and none of us will see Rickon Walnutsbane. I'm ready for the new season. Thoughts? Pretty sure we'll find out about R+L=J&M. Hopefully get to see the Tower of Joy at the same time.
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