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Oh, wait. He's doing interiors too? Sweet! I actually read that article, or more accurately skimmed it, because I thought he was just doing covers and concept work.
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RandallODim posted:Brian Stelfreeze. It looks good. It is super loving rad to see one of the most thoughtful, skilled, and intense essayists working today just nerd the gently caress out about how Black Panther's super-armor should let him do Jedi moves.
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Neurosis posted:What's the most recent word on when Brubaker and Phillips are going to get around to the third (and I'm going to guess final) arc of Incognito? Nothing on this? I'll just reread Sleeper (the best take on Infernal Affairs by a country mile) and cry.
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So what happens if Ghost Rider uses his Penance Stare on a hero? I assume with his history there may be variants, but it's supposed to make people feel all the pain and suffering they inflicted on the INNOCENT, so...does indirect pain and suffering count? If a hero defeats a villain and locks them up, and then the villain breaks out and goes on a mad rampage to draw the hero's attention, does that mean the hero is responsible for the pain and suffering the villain caused in their supposed name?
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Cornwind Evil posted:So what happens if Ghost Rider uses his Penance Stare on a hero? I assume with his history there may be variants, but it's supposed to make people feel all the pain and suffering they inflicted on the INNOCENT, so...does indirect pain and suffering count? If a hero defeats a villain and locks them up, and then the villain breaks out and goes on a mad rampage to draw the hero's attention, does that mean the hero is responsible for the pain and suffering the villain caused in their supposed name? While its not consistant between writers, it generally seems to be be "Experience the pain you (directly) inflicted on others". Sometimes specifically inflicted on the innocent, sometimes not. It had no effect on Punisher because he "has no regrets" (which is not how the penance stare usually works btw, but gotta make frank look badass) It worked on Doctor Strange at least once, because at the end of the day everyone has at some point caused pain to someone who didnt deserve it (plus canonically before Strange was a hero he was an rear end in a top hat). But generally it does seem to be "Pain directly caused by action/inaction". So while Fisk might experience the pain of vicitms and their families killed on his orders, Spiderman wouldnt experience the pain of people killed by Venom/carnage.
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The penance stare wouldn't work on Spidey, but he'd still react as if it did. "Uncle Ben!" The placebo stare.
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Die Laughing posted:The penance stare wouldn't work on Spidey, but he'd still react as if it did. "Uncle Ben!" The placebo stare. The Penance stare wouldn't work on Spidey because he already feels all the pain he has caused.
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KittyEmpress posted:The Penance stare wouldn't work on Spidey because he already feels all the pain he has caused. Probably more, honestly.
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SiKboy posted:So while Fisk might experience the pain of vicitms and their families killed on his orders, Ghost RICO? 
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KittyEmpress posted:The Penance stare wouldn't work on Spidey because he already feels all the pain he has caused. Similarly, a better way to have Frankie no-sell the stare would've been that it still causes him to feel the pain, it just doesn't stop him because Frank Castle is an inhuman tank. I'm also imagining someone holding an intervention for Speedball during his Penance phase, having the Rider penance stare him to prove Stamford wasn't actually his fault.
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Dec 6, 2015 19:45
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RandallODim posted:I'm also imagining someone holding an intervention for Speedball during his Penance phase, having the Rider penance stare him to prove Stamford wasn't actually his fault. 
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Dec 6, 2015 20:05
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Squizzle posted:Ghost RICO? It's mostly used to catch ghosts that are trying to run tax scams, but yeah, it'd probably work that way too.
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RandallODim posted:Similarly, a better way to have Frankie no-sell the stare would've been that it still causes him to feel the pain, it just doesn't stop him because Frank Castle is an inhuman tank. I still prefer the idea that using the penance stare on Frank would make him explode and that merely pretending to caused him to freak out and nearly break down. Ah, pre-Ennis Punisher...
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Speaking of Speedball, did anything actually come of him after New Warriors? I know they were setting up a plotline with him before the book got canned but I'm curious if anything picked up on that.
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What's the deal with the 4th World Omnibus volume 2 being a billion dollars? Is there any chance of it not being a billion dollars?
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Shakenbaker posted:What's the deal with the 4th World Omnibus volume 2 being a billion dollars? Is there any chance of it not being a billion dollars? Initial orders were very low so they printed a lower number.
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Dec 8, 2015 06:55
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Rhyno posted:Initial orders were very low so they printed a lower number. Bleh, figures. Thanks.
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Dec 8, 2015 08:45
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Are you talking about hardback? Cause the paperbacks got reprinted with the new DC logo, or at least the #3 and #4 I got. e: Yeah $200 on Amazon. That's weird.
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Shakenbaker posted:What's the deal with the 4th World Omnibus volume 2 being a billion dollars? Is there any chance of it not being a billion dollars? Because it's worth it.
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 Is this the best Stan Lee hyperbolic first-page opener?
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I signed up to Marvel Unlimited and it's pretty cool. But as I haven't read comics for ages I've been blindly stabbing at stuff that sounds like it could be fun, not the best strategy I know. I recently read about Hope Summers finding those new mutants the "four lights" but after jumping ahead and reading some new stories none of them seem to turn up, are they all dead or did they gently caress off to the future or something?
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Ultragonk posted:I signed up to Marvel Unlimited and it's pretty cool. But as I haven't read comics for ages I've been blindly stabbing at stuff that sounds like it could be fun, not the best strategy I know. I recently read about Hope Summers finding those new mutants the "four lights" but after jumping ahead and reading some new stories none of them seem to turn up, are they all dead or did they gently caress off to the future or something? Nah they just stopped using them for some reason. Also r/comicbooks has a pretty good list of "what to read, I know it helped me when I first got MU, because their library is daunting.
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zoux posted:Nah they just stopped using them for some reason. I suppose with a huge cast like the X-Men you can't use everyone, but I'm surprised they stopped using Hope, she seemed really important. Thanks for the link.
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Ultragonk posted:I suppose with a huge cast like the X-Men you can't use everyone, but I'm surprised they stopped using Hope, she seemed really important. Every time a writer gets their hands on X-Men they create new mutants that are very very important to them. These mutants never seem to survive the switch to a new writer because they have their own very special mutants they want to write about.
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Dr. Hurt posted:Every time a writer gets their hands on X-Men they create new mutants that are very very important to them. These mutants never seem to survive the switch to a new writer because they have their own very special mutants they want to write about. Up to a point. There was the mandate recently that Bendis bitched about, no more new mutants as Fox automatically got the rights to use them. Even Goldballs.
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Rhyno posted:Up to a point. There was the mandate recently that Bendis bitched about, no more new mutants as Fox automatically got the rights to use them. Even Goldballs. That reminds me, did Ben the shapeshifter ever get a code name?
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Rhyno posted:Up to a point. There was the mandate recently that Bendis bitched about, no more new mutants as Fox automatically got the rights to use them. Even Goldballs. It's Fox's fault we won't ever see a Rockslide/Anole fighting crime with fake mustaches. loving criminal.
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zoux posted:That reminds me, did Ben the shapeshifter ever get a code name? Never officially but they called him Morph.
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Aphrodite posted:Never officially but they called him Morph. Yeah I remember that Emma or someone vetoed that.
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Other way around. She suggested it, he didn't like it.
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Should have gotten Wolverine to suggest it. He can say it so strikingly.
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Dr. Hurt posted:Every time a writer gets their hands on X-Men they create new mutants that are very very important to them. These mutants never seem to survive the switch to a new writer because they have their own very special mutants they want to write about. Rhyno posted:Up to a point. There was the mandate recently that Bendis bitched about, no more new mutants as Fox automatically got the rights to use them. Even Goldballs. I get wanting to put your mark on something but they must have about every type of mutant they could possibly want at the moment. I'd rather see existing mutants have their story expanded.
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Ultragonk posted:I get wanting to put your mark on something but they must have about every type of mutant they could possibly want at the moment. I'd rather see existing mutants have their story expanded. A writer wants to tell the story that they want to tell - the story that they're enthusiastic about. It turns out that it can be harder to do that when you're dealing with characters that have established histories and personalities and extant plot threads that may not actually line up with that story they're enthusiastic about.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:A writer wants to tell the story that they want to tell - the story that they're enthusiastic about. It turns out that it can be harder to do that when you're dealing with characters that have established histories and personalities and extant plot threads that may not actually line up with that story they're enthusiastic about. When really they should be catering to my needs and whims  Can you think of any mutants that appeared in one issue, looked like they would appear in more and have just never appeared again? bessantj fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:A writer wants to tell the story that they want to tell - the story that they're enthusiastic about. It turns out that it can be harder to do that when you're dealing with characters that have established histories and personalities and extant plot threads that may not actually line up with that story they're enthusiastic about. They just really,really want to create the next Wolverine.
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Ultragonk posted:When really they should be catering to my needs and whims Back when I was reading comics there was a supporting character who found out that he would become Ahab from the bad X-Men Days of Future Past future. Then he got his leg shot off and moved into Excalibur's headquarters and was never seen again.
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CharlestheHammer posted:None of that poo poo has ever mattered to any writer. If they want to tell a story they are usually fine trying to smash a round peg in a square hole. confident assessment of the motives of every writer ever.
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Squizzle posted:Should have gotten Wolverine to suggest it. He can say it so strikingly. *hands Ben a slip of paper with a name on it* "THIS ONE'S FOR YOU, MORPH!"
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Ultragonk posted:I get wanting to put your mark on something but they must have about every type of mutant they could possibly want at the moment. I'd rather see existing mutants have their story expanded. Someone isn't reading Tom Brevoort's sassy tumblr! doobiewrap posted:With over 70 years Its clear that marvel has one of the biggest character pools in the industry, why do you think creators continue to make new characters for their series? Specifically I mean why add a new white male character to a book when you could've just used one (with the same power set and everything) that hasn't gotten any major attention since the 70 - 90's? it's like having access to the worlds biggest toy box but staying your phone instead Brevoort posted:Because a power set is only the slightest thing there is to a character. People create the characters they need in order to tell their stories. They may not be aware of earlier characters, or those characters may have aspects to them that don’t fit in with what the story is going to be. Plus, it can feel exclusionary for certain readers to bring back an obscure character from decades ago if you don’t need to. On top of which, you never know what new character is going to hit–certainly Spider-Gwen was a surprise that wouldn’t have happened if some other established spider-person such as Jessica Drew or Julia Carpenter had been used there.
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Ultragonk posted:Can you think of any mutants that appeared in one issue, looked like they would appear in more and have just never appeared again? Maggot should have been one of those. Chris Claremonts the Neo did not stick around for long.
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