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Phanatic posted:Besides, smartphone cameras these days are perfectly okay if there's enough light and infinite DOF doesn't matter for the shot. You can take perfectly good photographs with a smartphone camera. Yeah, don't blame the tool, blame the user. See vertical videos.
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KozmoNaut posted:Samsung tried that, and it was a complete failure. Sony makes a line of camera modules that attach to your smartphone. They basically removed all of the UI components from one of their cameras so that you can connect to it from your phone via wifi direct and use that as the UI instead (their current camera lines can do this anyway, for remote shooting). They have multiple models, some with build-in lens and others with interchangeable lenses.   http://www.sony.net/Products/di/en-gb/products/cm32/index.html http://www.sony.net/Products/di/en-gb/products/e9x8/index.html It's a super cool idea, but they are limited by the constraints of needing to rely on your phone and also on wifi. The images can be comparable to entry and mid-range sony cameras (I think), but you are severely constrained by the system.
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Krispy Kareem posted:I guess it takes too much space and Windows Lumia phones have demonstrated that camera optics rank pretty far down on people's smartphone desires. Though the 1020 was very much a good camera with a mediocre phone attached to it.
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KozmoNaut posted:Samsung tried that, and it was a complete failure. I remember looking into this at one point, but back then it didn't have a phone antenna. I guess Samsung must have released a second model that actually works as a phone.
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KozmoNaut posted:Samsung tried that, and it was a complete failure. I actually use the Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom as my daily phone. Great battery that's swappable and a drat fine point and shoot camera with 10x optical zoom. It even has tripod mount threading! Granted you don't wanna try putting it in your pocket, and even the Samsung Reps at work laugh at me for buying it on a drunken ebay shopping spree.
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:I remember looking into this at one point, but back then it didn't have a phone antenna. I guess Samsung must have released a second model that actually works as a phone. They did. A year or so ago there was the Samsung Galaxy K Zoom, which was more or less the same thing, but in a slimmer form. I don't think it did any better than the first one.
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I'm looking forward to the advances in light-field technology replacing standard photography methods; I've been thinking about trying one of these and seeing what kind of stuff I can do after not loving with SLR's for 10 years.
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:They did. A year or so ago there was the Samsung Galaxy K Zoom, which was more or less the same thing, but in a slimmer form. I don't think it did any better than the first one. On the newest version they upgraded the camera....and removed 3g/4g capability. Fuckin dumb.
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Wasabi the J posted:I'm looking forward to the advances in light-field technology replacing standard photography methods; I've been thinking about trying one of these and seeing what kind of stuff I can do after not loving with SLR's for 10 years. I thought that was going to be a link to Lytro's original Light-field camera or the Illum. I had the first one (lent to a co-worker and never bothered to get it back). If you wanna screw around with LF you can do it a 'hacky' way with your regular DSLR: http://www.heliconsoft.com/heliconfocus.html It's done by either taking a number of photos at different focal planes then processing, or another way to was to set the camera to record video and then twist the focus ring all the way, then process in software.
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Humphreys posted:It's done by either taking a number of photos at different focal planes then processing, or another way to was to set the camera to record video and then twist the focus ring all the way, then process in software. A friend of mine is a photographer and we were talking about photographing insects the other day. He told me that when you see high-quality pics of insects it's actually a few different images rolled into one since the focal length can change for different parts of an insect since they're so small. And then he showed me how Photoshop has essentially automated the process of merging the pictures into one photo. I never thought about it before, but it makes total sense.
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So I just got a HOMO FLUX - It's a device for electrocuting each other in the name of medicine. I've bought it as a gift for someone, fuckin odd thing it is.    I found a bit of info here: http://www.nickandmorphia.com/ Apparently they are popular these days with pain fetishists, which I didn't know prior to buying it ha ha
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peter gabriel posted:So I just got a HOMO FLUX - It's a device for electrocuting each other in the name of medicine. I was about to say, that's a sex toy, straight up.
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Zaphod42 posted:I was about to say, that's a sex toy, straight up. Yep. My friend who used to be a Dominatrix has one, and they were really popular with her female clients. Sex toys are nether obsolete nor failed. Were PDAs ever popular? I remember working for HP in the early 2000s and they heavily pushed their line, but as far as I can tell, no one ever bought them. From the conversations I had, people basically were wanting what would become the smart phone. Which is probably why the Blackberry was such a massive success out of the gate, even if they're nearly out of business now. Is there any tech right now anyone thinks that may be seen and failed/obsolete in the near future? The only thing I can think of is controllerless motion controls. The fact Xbone sales went up when it was sold without Kinect implies that people don't want it. Even controller based ones I feel are going to be relegated to specific types of games, and not being the main way games are controlled in the future.
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I had a palm pilot and I thought it was pretty drat cool, I knew it would be the way of the future to have handheld computers. And now everybody has smartphones which are pretty drat similar, so you could say they got popular!  They never really took on, but they were at least well known and popular enough that they popped up in popular culture. Like I'm pretty sure The Simpsons made fun of the hand-writing recognition in PDAs, I think specifically Apple's. So they must have been selling a bit. And I remember lots of them in stores.
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twistedmentat posted:Yep. My friend who used to be a Dominatrix has one, and they were really popular with her female clients. Sex toys are nether obsolete nor failed. I knew at least one person with a HP Jordana and a bunch of us had Palms or Sony Palms. It wasn't a huge market, but it didn't have to be back then. As for the next obsolete tech, anything you control with your voice. We don't even like talking on our phones. Why the gently caress would we want to talk to them.
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Zaphod42 posted:I had a palm pilot and I thought it was pretty drat cool, I knew it would be the way of the future to have handheld computers. And now everybody has smartphones which are pretty drat similar, so you could say they got popular! Palm Pilots were pretty drat popular, probably peaking with the III (post US Robotics Pilot). They adapted it for the Visor phone, but they got complacent and then Compaq came along and ate their lunch with the iPaq. They stayed fairly popular despite the Blackberry, until the iPhone came out and doomed PDAs. The Simpsons reference was from the Newton MessagePad's notoriously (and hilariously) terrible handwriting recognition. Palm's Graffiti input, by contrast, was fast and accurate. In fact when I first started using a stylus with the iPad, I had to unlearn all the Graffiti shorthand I had retained.
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Zaphod42 posted:I had a palm pilot and I thought it was pretty drat cool, I knew it would be the way of the future to have handheld computers. And now everybody has smartphones which are pretty drat similar, so you could say they got popular! The Newton, one of the first PDA's 
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Zaphod42 posted:They never really took on, but they were at least well known and popular enough that they popped up in popular culture. Like I'm pretty sure The Simpsons made fun of the hand-writing recognition in PDAs, I think specifically Apple's. So they must have been selling a bit. And I remember lots of them in stores.
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SubG posted:In what universe did the Palm Pilot not take off? The first Pilot was sold in late '96, and by '99 their revenue was around a billion dollars a year (according to the filings for their IPO). They cratered just a couple years later, but for a few years in the late '90s they were definitely the poo poo. I used to love anything and everything PDA related. When I got out of school they were in their infancy and through various jobs that had me on the road a lot I loved the idea of using a small computer to do all my meetings etc then sync to my laptop later. I don't know why, but it was the 'must have gadget' for the few years they were still monochrome. The Palms, the HPs and there was another brand I cannot remember now. Also there was a magazine dedicated to 'mobile technology' here called Roadwarrior. I subscribed and might have a few laying around in boxes after all these years. If I find one I will post scans. Now here I sit with maybe 3 different tablets I barely use, and when I want to - they have flat batteries.
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Humphreys posted:The Palms, the HPs and there was another brand I cannot remember now. Handspring? At the time, I wanted a Toshiba libretto. moller has a new favorite as of 04:50 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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moller posted:Handspring? That's the one!
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Humphreys posted:That's the one! I miss my Platinum. I had a mad set of carts for it, and even a cable to plug it into my Spring flip phone for styling 14.4 internet access on the go! (This was better than a decade ago, mind you.) It also came in handy for reading in bed with a wife that worked morning while I worked nights.
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moller posted:Handspring? I posted a Toshiba libretto in this thread a few months ago.  I found it in a closet, no idea how I ended up with it. What I have my thumb on is the mouse nipple. My index and ring finger are on the left/right mouse buttons which are on the back of the screen.
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duffmensch posted:The Newton, one of the first PDA's How this joke is still not in Siri is beyond me, seems like a day one priority.
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Wasabi the J posted:I'm looking forward to the advances in light-field technology replacing standard photography methods; I've been thinking about trying one of these and seeing what kind of stuff I can do after not loving with SLR's for 10 years. Humphreys posted:I thought that was going to be a link to Lytro's original Light-field camera or the Illum. I had the first one (lent to a co-worker and never bothered to get it back). If you want to know way too much about lightfields watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Raw-VVmaXbg It does a pretty good job of explaining what they are, how they work, and how to record/render them. The other videos from that conference are also good. With the imminent arrival of consumer VR lightfield imaging (both photographed and 3D-rendered) is going to blow up.
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I still remember marveling at my coworkers Palm Pilot because it had mobile internet. "You mean you don't have to plug it in to something for email?" That reminds me of the terrible wireless options we had at the turn of the century. I paid $100 for a 900mhz wireless transmitter and receiver that moved data at dial-up speeds, but only if you were no more than 10 feet apart. I think it connected to your computer via parallel ports. I don't know if I've ever bought a more useless piece of technology.
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Krispy Kareem posted:That reminds me of the terrible wireless options we had at the turn of the century. Wi-Max
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Gobbeldygook posted:I posted a Toshiba libretto in this thread a few months ago. Screw nipples/trackpads! It was all about these on some Toshibas:  Attached like this: 
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Humphreys posted:Screw nipples/trackpads! It was all about these on some Toshibas: I have the version of this that has a giant cord folded up into the side of it and has a teal trackball. It' goes with my "laptop" that I think I've mentioned in this thread before. The laptop is the size of a large briefcase, weighs ~18 pounds and runs DOS/3.1 natively. Mostly I use it for playing old DOS games like the DOS version of HeroQuest.
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Gobbeldygook posted:I posted a Toshiba libretto in this thread a few months ago. Now there's a technology we can all be glad is burning in hell - the clitmouse. They weren't just awkward to use, they were physically painful.
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A friend of mine loves the clit mouse and laments that only Thinkpads still have them. I don't understand him.
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nocal posted:Wi-Max Wi-Max and LTE were pretty comparable feature and capability wise when they came out. But most people's only experience with we wi-max was on Sprint's implementation which was ham strung in a lot of ways.
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Collateral Damage posted:A friend of mine loves the clit mouse and laments that only Thinkpads still have them. I don't understand him. Trackpoint is the poo poo compared to just about any non-apple trackpad  . It isn't suprising why they were so popular: early trackpads were godawful glitchy inaccurate monstrosities with bad palm rejection, integrated trackballs got gunked up constantly, and d-pad style mice were slow and tough to use because they only ever moved in one of 8 directions. Now they are still nice because you can use trackpoint with a gloved or sweaty hand which is very useful in the lab or in the field. For graphics it is worthless but for excel/word it is very nice because you don't have to re-position your hands off the keyboard to use it. It isn't just thinkpads though, a lot of mobile workstation notebooks (from Dell and HP at least) still have them too.Speaking of business does anyone remember these?  The rolodex! turning the knob would let you spin through all the cards quickly to get to the letter you wanted and you could flip through the last couple cards by hand. Pretty darn useful for people with lots of business contacts. But so low tech, surely we can do better...  The Eletrodex! An electronic replacement for a traditional Rolodex with a jaw-dropping 64KB of memory! The large knob looking bits on the sides were there to let you flip through the cards just like an old physical Rolodex. And the large reddish area with white circle is quite the high-tech feature: an IR port to send your contacts to your...  Pocket Electrodex! All your contacts on the go! The instructional video is amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-N12_OjJoI
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Shifty Pony posted:Speaking of business does anyone remember these? The 80s show Moonlighting had an entire episode based on one of these.
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Collateral Damage posted:A friend of mine loves the clit mouse and laments that only Thinkpads still have them. I don't understand him. I like mine, but most of them come with the sensitivity set far too low - I think I have mine at the second-highest. At those levels you can actually fling it around with little effort.
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Shifty Pony posted:Speaking of business does anyone remember these?
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Shifty Pony posted:
 I got a similar one with a weird concept. It's a PCMCIA card that you need to shove into a laptop to sync the contacts.
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Krispy Kareem posted:As for the next obsolete tech, anything you control with your voice. We don't even like talking on our phones. Why the gently caress would we want to talk to them. I ride the bus, so I never use voice commands either, but I can see the point.
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Shifty Pony posted:Trackpoint is the poo poo compared to just about any non-apple trackpad I recently started drilling at an armory that I hadn't drilled it in about 5 years. When I was getting re-oriented, I was asked to update my contact information, which was still written down on a card I had filled out 8 years ago in the Rolodex they had on hand. So there is something to be said for the permanency of paper.
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