Mirificus posted:

How 2.0 made me cry posted:
I'm not normally one for stories given that I have the attention span of a gnat on speed, but I felt you folk wouldn't mind. I've been following this project for a year or so now, so when 20 dropped I immediately started to download it.

Now, I'm not a huge arena commander fan when it comes down to it, but I see the necessity and support it as such. It's not that I don't like flying, I just personally find it somewhat isolating and monotonous to be stuck in a box with a half dozen angry superhornets. Instead, I dreamt of smuggling and immersion, of hitchhiking from port to port and seeing the galaxy as a citizen rather than a pair of guns. So I gave it a miss.

Enter 2.0

I booted this patch up expecting it to be awesome. I'd seen the videos. I knew what to expect.

I was totally wrong.

From the moment I stepped into Port Olisar, it felt like the game was alive. Compared to arena commander something huge had changed. I just wasn't sure what. Was it the sounds of breathing? The feeling of waking up in a bed rather than magically spawning into a map? I don't know. I might never know, and that's ok because it felt amazing.

I stepped outside as player ran past me. He stopped and looked at me, jumped, and suddenly we were racing down to the mission room to spawn our ships. I couldn't see his name, but suddenly there was a connection

Landing Pad: Occupied. drat. I looked over to him. He looked back. We resigned ourselves to waiting. He must have seen me spawning my connie, cause suddenly he was following me. We rushed into the airlock and just... When those doors opened and the sound dropped back to reveal my very own spaceship surrounded by stars?

I lost it. Every coherent thought I had flowing through my mind was replaced with pure and undistilled awe. I honestly can't describe what I thought at that time because everything was just overwhelming and I couldn't stop thinking 'It's happening... It's happening. OMG it's beautiful and it's finally happening.'

I tried to echo my thoughts in chat, but.. No. Connie. My connie. In space. She looked so perfect standing there, I was enraptured.

My reverie was broken by my space friend jumping in front of me again. I jumped, he jumped, and we took off.

Port Olisar. That huge superstructure I had just left was just sitting there, tiny and fragile against the immense and menacing void.

In that moment I lost all ability to fly my ship. I was smiling so hard I felt like the Joker, and I had to sit back to prevent my keyboard from getting wet. Just... Drifting. In space. With a friend beside me. I left the command seat and pressed my face to the glass in a vain attempt to see everything as we slowly rolled around our axis. I can't adequately describe the feeling other than a complete over saturation of everything good in the world, but it was like nothing i've ever experienced in a game before.

I had to get closer. I ran to open the airlock to get a better view and was promptly sucked out or fell out into nothingness.

Crap.

After multiple failed attempts at boarding I let spacebro know he could keep the ship, and began the long EVA back to the station. The gentle sounds of thrusters firing and my own breath just made the scene.

And then the game crashed.

I just want to thank you all for supporting this project and letting my dreams come to life. You're all amazing and we wouldn't have this if it wasn't for you lot. CIG- you're troopers and I love you. (Does that make the ship guys starship troopers?)

Anyway, I should sleep, and I love you all.

-- Bandersaur

(My main got shadowbanned for some reason so i'm using my backup as a main now. Hai.)
12/16/15, 7:40 PM

fuctifino posted:

It was Ben's idea for Chris to play a livestream of 2.0. Chris says this quite firmly at the start of his attempt to load the game.

Ben set Chris up.

Ben wasn't in the livestream after that... not even when all the crew were brought in at the end.

Nomenclature posted:

From Sandi's Facebook:

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Ben was in the livestream, at the end Ben and Sandi talk over Chris, whom the cameras are still focused on. They chat for a minute or so before Chris cuts them off and explains how poo poo went wrong because... must've been the computer

I recorded his whole gameplay segment. It's a funny watch.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I think that segment is actually someone loving up and broadcasting the beginning of the livestream over Chris.

D_Smart posted:

snip

Gryphon0468 posted:

Yes you're very clever being able to connect identical usernames across 2 different websites. *pats your head*

T.G. Xarbala posted:

I hope you stick around, CIG just posted the greatest self-own on their own twitch channel and one of the top streamers independently just roasted SC after trying to play it on his stream.

T.G. Xarbala posted:

I hope you stick around, CIG just posted the greatest self-own on their own twitch channel and one of the top streamers independently just roasted SC after trying to play it on his stream.

All in all, was fun.

Don't just drive-by when you think you'll finally find vindication because odds are you're mistaken.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I read what you posted earlier and while I see what happened with them across the surface and then pulling out once the station was out of view, I don't understand how the live demonstration emphasizes the tricks you're implying. I've asked you nicely to please explain it some more. If you're going to be a dick about things then that's on you, but frankly making a declaration like that and then throwing a hissy fit because some random people on the Internet aren't being nice to you just makes you look even worse.


I'm going to quote this and hopefully we can revisit it on April 1st. At that point the first quarter will be over, we'll have a reasonable period of time to estimate the $3M average, and we'll see if the net number of employees at CIG is reduced.

I do agree that Sandi's announcement about the location of CitCon did seem like a declaration of intent.

OhDearGodNo posted:

Shot in the dark, because "rendered in engine" means absolutely poo poo. The video is nothing like what is out now.

Every time I see this I remind people of the Watchdogs reveal compared to the game. And that was a functional game.


Now compare early FPS footage to what ended up being used.

Go play Arena Commander and see how far a year has taken it.


Nah gently caress it, the fact that a rendered video that zooms seamlessly from an eye to space in a game where the creator can't even load a ship doesn't seem fake in any way is really strange. Take a step back for a second and watch it again.


It's not the game, it's a rendered Cryengine sequence with absolutely nothing behind it.

T.G. Xarbala posted:

Watchdogs taught everybody not to trust bullshots.

Sadly, Star Citizen backers are terrible students.

Omi-Polari posted:

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Uh... Killzone 2, tyvm

T.G. Xarbala posted:

Production of pretty SC videos has been going on since 2012, but development on the actual game only really started this year if you really think about it.


I can only apologize.

McGiggins posted:

Fun Fact:

In engine footage!= In Game footage

Legal trickery abounds.

D_Smart posted:

Not sure why you're getting touchy. I can't explain it in layman's terms. That was my point. And I thought that was evident in my response.

If you didn't understand it the first time I posted it in layman's terms, I'm not sure how else you want me to explain it. I simply can't reword the same crap to fit someone's level of understanding. As I tend to always do, it takes a lot more explaining than I have time for right now or bothered to do (for the aforementioned reasons).

What they had was a canned, in-editor level. Something that CryEngine is very good at. Only a novice wouldn't have noticed that. And that's why the scales (let me guess, nobody noticed that either) were off.

It wasn't like they had the tech running off the v1.x or even v2.x kernel. They did not.

And for all intent and purposes, this isn't any different from ALL the other in-level work they've shown or which you could find on any website that hosts CryEngine terrain tutorials.

I have written several procedural terrain generation engines. The last one I worked on is actually in Universal Combat CE (currently free on Steam). Only difference being; due to how the space<->planetary transition works, there is no zooming down to the planet from space.

There are dozens of free procedural terrain generation sample code, data structs etc online. It's not entirely rocket science for us graphics engineers. It all boils down to a) what you want to do with it b) how you want to render it

This was nothing more than more smoke and mirrors - and for a feature that's not even targeted for the first release (which they have YET to achieve) of the game. So their motivation for even doing this, was just to show new stuff because, well, you saw the stream, they had nothing new and/or interesting.