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Like really that comment comes from someone piggybacking off a bad/weak case and adding almost no content of their own. It's bad and opportunistic and you have the gall to accuse me of being the scum in this sccenario
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Kashuno posted:Like really that comment comes from someone piggybacking off a bad/weak case and adding almost no content of their own. It's bad and opportunistic and you have the gall to accuse me of being the scum in this sccenario You're framing your perspective as fact. This isn't analysis, it's building a narrative.
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Dec 17, 2015 22:35
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I think I'd rather lynch bowmore over Kash right now. Bowmore has a total of 7 posts and only 2 of them are game related. One where he votes for Hal and then another where he gives a weak defense of his vote and says he's not moving it.
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Dec 17, 2015 23:41
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TMMadman posted:I think I'd rather lynch bowmore over Kash right now. Bowmore has a total of 7 posts and only 2 of them are game related. One where he votes for Hal and then another where he gives a weak defense of his vote and says he's not moving it. Eh, day 1 lurking is alignment-neutral for bowmore. Hence EXAKT Science posted:bowmore more like post more I'd rather go for someone like Kash, who has been acting actively scummy.
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Dec 17, 2015 23:43
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TMMadman posted:Right now I'm with you. TMMadman posted:I think I'd rather lynch bowmore over Kash right now. Bowmore has a total of 7 posts and only 2 of them are game related. One where he votes for Hal and then another where he gives a weak defense of his vote and says he's not moving it. Also, what changed? You were right there on the Kash train until he started to pick up votes.
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Dec 17, 2015 23:48
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EXAKT Science posted:Eh, day 1 lurking is alignment-neutral for bowmore. Hence It doesn't really matter if D1 lurking is alignment neutral because if we don't hang scum today then we are in LYLO and that's a bad place took be with a lurker. If we lynch bowmore today and he flips town, we still have lots of content from Kash to look at, but if we don't lynch him today then he makes a very attractive, very easy target for tomorrow.
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TMMadman posted:It doesn't really matter if D1 lurking is alignment neutral because if we don't hang scum today then we are in LYLO and that's a bad place took be with a lurker. Alternately, we have a lot of content from Kash to go on today, whereas a bowmore flip does much less for us as far as information.
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Dec 17, 2015 23:53
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Why bowmore instead of the other lurkbeast?
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Because I liked Hals analysis post. Maybe that's just a smoke screen, but it read genuine to me.
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Dec 17, 2015 23:55
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TMMadman posted:Because I liked Hals analysis post. Maybe that's just a smoke screen, but it read genuine to me. I wasn't talking about Hal.
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Dec 17, 2015 23:56
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Well I don't really think, me, you, Quid or Kash have been lurking. SA I guess is on the border of lurking but at least I can tell he's in the game.
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Dec 17, 2015 23:58
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TMMadman posted:Well I don't really think, me, you, Quid or Kash have been lurking. SA I guess is on the border of lurking but at least I can tell he's in the game. SA has posted basically no actual thought or analysis about the game.
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Dec 18, 2015 00:01
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But neither has bowmore and bowmore has posted even less.
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TMMadman posted:But neither has bowmore and bowmore has posted even less. I don't find this argument compelling at all.
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Dec 18, 2015 00:20
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I'm happy with my Kash vote.
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Quidnose posted:I'm happy with my Kash vote. Quid who else do you think is the scum?
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I like what Kashuno has said. He didn't waste a lot of time defending himself and I like the points he's made. His reaction doesn't look scummy at all, other maybe that he is going after the people who voted him. I'd rather ##vote SA. Sorry I was travelling most of yesterday and today but I'm here until deadline so let's chat.
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Quidnose posted:I'm happy with my Kash vote. What in Kashuno's response seemed all that bad to you
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Hal Incandenza posted:I like what Kashuno has said. He didn't waste a lot of time defending himself and I like the points he's made. His reaction doesn't look scummy at all, other maybe that he is going after the people who voted him. I don't get the argument that it's bad to go after the people who voted for you. It gets leveled against me a lot, but I feel that since I know my own alignment I am the best judge of who I think is attacking me in bad faith. I just don't see going after the people going after you as inherently scummy. So why would you rather vote SA over bowmore?
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TMMadman posted:I don't get the argument that it's bad to go after the people who voted for you. It gets leveled against me a lot, but I feel that since I know my own alignment I am the best judge of who I think is attacking me in bad faith. I just don't see going after the people going after you as inherently scummy. Yeah I don't think it's that bad either and I do the same thing. It's just also a somewhat easy tack to take because it requires less effort than analyzing something from a neutral point of view. I'd rather vote SA because bowmore isn't playing any differently than usual. He's more a crapshoot, whereas SA looks like he's forcing stuff and avoiding any heat coming his way. I'd be ok with either really, just have more of a read on SA.
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Dec 18, 2015 00:58
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seriously we should lynch Hal
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hi bowmore how is the summer treating you
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bowmore posted:seriously we should lynch Hal bowmore this is not what I meant when I said post more.
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Yeah, I don't see why we shouldn't hang bowmore when his contribution is to come back and in simply restate the position he's been holding the entire game. I don't know what he's doing, but I don't feel like it's town behavior.
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Dec 18, 2015 01:14
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Hal Incandenza posted:hi bowmore how is the summer treating you
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bowmore posted:alright, i'm avoiding facebook because of star wars spoilers bit otherwise ok Boba Fett is a clone
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Dec 18, 2015 01:48
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TMMadman posted:Yeah, I don't see why we shouldn't hang bowmore when his contribution is to come back and in simply restate the position he's been holding the entire game. he made a huge effort post as soon as momentum] started to swing his way, and then nobody looked at him because he made a post, even though it was a pure "i have to do/put a bit of effort in this so i don't get lynched" post
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Dec 18, 2015 01:49
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bowmore posted:i'll hold my position until one of us is lynched See, I just don't read Hal that way and feel that you're just forcing the issue and hiding behind a 'him or me' attitude.
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bowmore don't be a merk, I hate the "til one of us is dead" gambit
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So who is going to be around? We've got about an hour and forty five minutes to go. I'm not really sure about the Kash vote. I would probably vote him because I don't think a no lynch is a good idea in this game, but if he flips town then I think one of Exakt or Quid would be scum. It's hard to think of them both as scum and acting together so openly. I've actually been thinking that this might be right: Hal Incandenza posted:I dunno about EXAKT, he could be scum with bowmore and they are doubling down on over-reacting to jokes trying to get an easy D1 lynch figuring that they can hurry LYLO. He's at least offering reasoning though, even though I think he should also know me well enough to know that I don't really say much that is serious D1. I was just thinking that Exakt isn't just posting a lot, she is running circles around everyone else and it's got me on edge right now. Also, some of the reactions Exakt had when I started to the question the Kash vote irked me. Stuff like this: EXAKT Science posted:Also, what changed? You were right there on the Kash train until he started to pick up votes. Just makes me feel like Exakt is trying to lead me along into a mislynch.
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I'm here and will be until deadline. Why do you think that I'm trying to lead you somewhere, TMM?
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EXAKT Science posted:I'm here and will be until deadline. I think it boils down to mostly gut. I don't know, something just feels off and I can't shake it.
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I think at this point, I'd rather do bowmore or SA in that order. I don't buy the whole 'him or me' thing from bowmore and it feels forced and SA has just completely disappeared in a small game. Neither of them has posted any sort of real content, but bowmore is pushing an argument that doesn't read true to me. The problem is that I don't think BOTH of them are scum together. Right now I think there one scum in these pairings: Exakt/Kash and bowmore/SA. I feeling like Quid is pretty solidly town and I like what Hal has been posting, so I'm leaning town for him right now.
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TMMadman posted:I think it boils down to mostly gut. I don't know, something just feels off and I can't shake it. I understand. And sometimes there's no accounting for gut reads. Mostly, I don't understand where the impression of "leading" comes from. Can you elaborate on that at all? Or at least make an effort to articulate your thought process? Please, I just want to understand.
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TMMadman posted:I think at this point, I'd rather do bowmore or SA in that order. I don't buy the whole 'him or me' thing from bowmore and it feels forced and SA has just completely disappeared in a small game. Neither of them has posted any sort of real content, but bowmore is pushing an argument that doesn't read true to me. I could vote bowmore, but I'd prefer to get Kash today.
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EXAKT Science posted:I understand. And sometimes there's no accounting for gut reads. Mostly, I don't understand where the impression of "leading" comes from. Can you elaborate on that at all? Or at least make an effort to articulate your thought process? Please, I just want to understand. It's just posts like this one. If just feels off. It's just feels like you are overly concerned about how people are perceiving you. Like in the other example, it just comes off as wrong. It just feels like you were all happy that I was following your lead, but the second I question lynching Kash, it feels like you get defensive about it instead of wondering if I'm scum trying to cover for Kash. EXAKT Science posted:Also, what changed? You were right there on the Kash train until he started to pick up votes. I think that's might be the best way to describe this post. It feels defensive. I don't know why, but that's the way it reads to me.
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