jaffyjaffy posted:

Welp my refund got denied.

A Neurotic Jew posted:

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D_Smart posted:
https://www.facebook.com/mwikan/posts/10153838751161060

this is good.

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Why do people keep posting this drivel.
If you love everything they've done so far, why would you think they will suddenly flat out screw up some random mundane mechanic like this? What... suddenly they have no ability to design games when it comes to NPC's in particular, but everything else they absolutely nail it and its amazing... right?
Its the old problem again. The same one I keep seeing and it peeves me to no end.
"I can't think of a solution to this, therefor nobody can think of a solution to this! CIG can't make the game I want because they can't think of a solution to this! I MUST HELP THEM EVEN THOUGH I CAN'T THINK OF A SOLUTION TO THIS!"
Just stop, stop, please stop. Just stop fretting over little poo poo that has no chance of happening. They are going to pay due diligence to this mechanic in the game just like all of the other things they're designing, and it will be good, if not great, and there is NO WAY they just let it be absolute trash.
Your concerns are foolish and unwarranted, and it looks bad. Focus on what you can do to support their designing the game to be the best it can be. Feedback for NPC balancing is probably most helpful when you actually see just what the hell they are working on - since you cannot because all we have is the 3 points you posted, you should stick to what you know, which is almost nothing.
I mean literally read your post and tell yourself while reading it: "This was all based on 3 sentences worth of information and assumptions I made. Nothing more."
If I take heat for this post, I don't care. I am venting the same as the OP.

Daztek posted:

I have a few serious concerns about NPC crew

D_Smart posted:

ps: I searched all my blogs and social media. Nope, I don't see any hits on where I have ever - ever - used that word. As in, ever. Like I said, they're not even trying anymore

Daztek posted:

I have a few serious concerns about NPC crew

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Hi there,
Thank you very much for your patience with this ticket.
We have reviewed your account status and regret that we are not able to accommodate your request for a refund since it was received outside of the statutory 14 day period.
Your pledge was made as part of the crowdfunding campaign to raise funds for the development of “Star Citizen.” As such you were aware that the funds would be actively applied after receipt for this purpose, not idly maintained in a bank account, and therefore could not be subject to a refund once used. As you may know from the extensive information on our website Robertsspaceindustries.com, Cloud Imperium Games has been working diligently over the past 3 years on the development of the game, and now employs over 260 staff in four studios. 2,538 reports, updates and web shows have been made available during this time, and first modules with limited gameplay were offered as early as in fall of 2013 – by now hundreds of thousands of gameplay hours have been played on our servers. The development of the game is proceeding steadily, and a substantial part of the promised game offering dozens of gameplay hours has been made available to the backers in early release versions (see further detail below).
Pursuant to the terms of your agreement (see Sec. 4 of the Commercial Terms, and Sec. IV.A of the subsequent Terms of Service, as applicable, https://robertsspaceindustries.com/tos), your payment was a deposit to be used for the “Game Cost” (as defined therein), and such deposit has since been “earned by CIG and become non-refundable to the extent that it is used for the Game Cost...” You further agreed to “irrevocably waive any claim for refund of any deposit amount that has been used for the Game Cost and Pledge Item Cost in accordance with the above.” The only exception would be a return of unearned funds remaining in case of an abandonment of the project. If you pledged on Kickstarter, you agreed to these terms when you transferred your pledge account to robertsspaceindustries.com.
These terms are consistent with the specific nature of crowdfunding and the foreseeable use of your pledge – we hope you appreciate that we cannot ask our hard working personnel to return some of their salary nor that it would be appropriate to use current backers’ funds provided for game development as a refund for an earlier and committed pledge.
While a substantive part of the promised gameplay is now available, we acknowledge that delivery of some game elements has been delayed due to expansion of Star Citizen’s scope. This expansion is a result of the community’s declared desire to have the initial release version of the game developed to a much greater depth than contemplated originally upon start of the campaign. It is inherent to the nature of crowdfunding that such an adjustment to the project may occur. Ultimately, this will benefit all backers including yourself, since every backer will be receiving a much greater value for his/her pledge, but it may – as in this case – cause an extension of the delivery dates.
We acknowledge that some individual backers may find the additional wait undesirable. However, as per Sec. VII of the ToS, you did “acknowledge and agree that delivery as of such date is not a promise by RSI since unforeseen events may extend the development and/or production time.”
We’d like to point you to the significant gameplay which is now available; https://robertsspaceindustries.com/feature-list and if you haven't already, we encourage you to download the installer from this url: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/download and patch up to play the latest version of the game.
Star Citizen is a project for gamers, by gamers. Delays and changes are always unfortunate, but in our case they are also one of the reasons the project is so special. By financing the project using crowd funding, our team is not beholden to a publisher who would insist we ship a game unfinished or broken to meet a particular date. Thanks to continued backing of our community, we have the needed creative freedom over the project, to create a unique game, and we feel the results, such as unparalleled immersion and fidelity, are already speaking for themselves!
We sincerely hope you enjoy the updates both current and future in the Star Citizen 'Verse.
Thank you.
RSI Customer Service Management

Chin posted:

So was the World of Warcraft Alpha 2.0 2.1 just one starter zone for one race with only male characters, no character customization, and a fraction of the promised classes?

I don't understand game development

D_Smart posted:

Oh, think so huh? Then wait'll you get a load of this...https://archive.is/fCIJR

ps: I searched all my blogs and social media. Nope, I don't see any hits on where I have ever - ever - used that word. As in, ever. Like I said, they're not even trying anymore

Amethyst posted:

I bought one of the $30 special packages. Looking forward to this epic game

Amethyst posted:

I bought one of the $30 special packages. Looking forward to this epic game

Amethyst posted:

I bought one of the $30 special packages. Looking forward to this epic game

A Neurotic Jew posted:

will you give us your impressions of Alpha 2.0?

peter gabriel posted:

This fuckin guy

CrazyLoon posted:

pgabz always makes a post that makes me chuckle.

D_Smart posted:

Oh, think so huh? Then wait'll you get a load of this...https://archive.is/fCIJR

ps: I searched all my blogs and social media. Nope, I don't see any hits on where I have ever - ever - used that word. As in, ever. Like I said, they're not even trying anymore

CrazyLoon posted:

pgabz always makes a post that makes me chuckle.

peter gabriel posted:

This fuckin guy

Tippis posted:

I use “demonstrably” quite often, and I'm sure lots of EVEfugees remember my long-winded and aggressive dissections of tons of whine-posts on those forums. So maybe I'm just you (or vice versa) or something.

D_Smart posted:

That was....I don't even know how to describe it. I need help.

Mirificus posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3xhuz3/is_the_star_citizen_community_souring_the_game/cy5uc6m

xanif posted:

Would you say his claim is...demonstrably false?

peter gabriel posted: