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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I wonder if SC will ever be feature locked, let alone released. Locking the features should be a stretch goal.
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The one aspect I simply cannot understand no matter how hard I try is how anyone can justify buying or "funding" a game content with a price tag of thousands of dollars. How did they even justify the prices of the ships? Based on the time and effort of its development or based on its promised performance in the game? I've spent a lot of money over the years to buy and upgrade my computers. The key difference being, I know exactly what I get, and when I get it.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:They've engineered themselves into a corner with all the ship-selling, too. Is finishing the game even in their best interest? If/when the game does eventually come out, all the whales who spent thousands of dollars will either be so powerful the game isn't interesting to them, or if they balance ships more, realize all their money meant nothing. Either way when the game comes out, I don't see how they can keep the money tap going. They either need to screw the whales (to attract new players), or ignore new players (to keep catering to the whales). Even if this game ever does come out even close to the 'vision' the whales are going to tear each other apart about the perceived slights or faults of their thousand dollar ships. I mean you have people unironically asking for rape gameplay and demanding everybody have to walk everywhere for immersion. It doesn't really matter what the game actually ends up with, there are going to be a ton of pissed off whales out there.
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Mirificus posted:There's already a lot of in-fighting over the conflicting visions of the backers. It will only get worse as the game becomes more concrete. There is definitely an angle to take that makes this look like some kind of kickstarter era Ponzi scheme. Keep the actual game vague, keep designing ship ideas that people will pay money for, get your kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames, to quote Jim Morrison.
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Mirificus posted:There's already a lot of in-fighting over the conflicting visions of the backers. It will only get worse as the game becomes more concrete. I think with the way CIG is "moderating" the forums, the people who disagree with anything will just be banned or know to shut their mouths. They'll post and angry rant, be marked as subversive, and be banned. I think they might just slowly whittle away their users until it's only the worst of the worst.
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TheLastRoboKy posted:This is the part of the scene where Seraph crests over the hill in a truck full of bitcoins as triumphant music plays. Then the computer in the back fizzles and shorts, the music switches to a creepy minor chord, and the screen starts to wash out its colors to black and white. The music fades, and DSmart's voice echoes over the deep silence. "This is how the gray market ends." The screen fades to black. "Not with a bang," A pig dissolves in to fill the screen. "But with an oink."
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BigglesSWE posted:The one aspect I simply cannot understand no matter how hard I try is how anyone can justify buying or "funding" a game content with a price tag of thousands of dollars. How did they even justify the prices of the ships? Based on the time and effort of its development or based on its promised performance in the game? CIG is selling nostalgia and to old nerds with too much money who used to play Wing Commander games and want to relive their childhood.
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BigglesSWE posted:The one aspect I simply cannot understand no matter how hard I try is how anyone can justify buying or "funding" a game content with a price tag of thousands of dollars. How did they even justify the prices of the ships? Based on the time and effort of its development or based on its promised performance in the game? It's like donating to public media, your tote bag for $100 has nothing to do with the tote bag, it's just an incentive on top of the psychological reward of supporting a cause that seems favorable to you.
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Gonkish posted:Star Citizen: It's basically Scientology for nerds. Uh, you're being a very suppressive person right now. Perhaps you should purchase an CIG audit package?
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aleksendr posted:Ok. Serious time. Is this the real raw source or the usual "poo poo and Giggles" Goon material ? Everything I post is edited heavily and is for parody purposes. It does not represent the views of CIG or RSI or reddit.
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Coolguye posted:Then the computer in the back fizzles and shorts, the music switches to a creepy minor chord, and the screen starts to wash out its colors to black and white. The music fades, and DSmart's voice echoes over the deep silence.  
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Polish Avenger posted:It's like donating to public media, your tote bag for $100 has nothing to do with the tote bag, it's just an incentive on top of the psychological reward of supporting a cause that seems favorable to you.
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Sandi has got some paranoid eyes going on in that interview. Big time.
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G0RF posted:Sandi has got some paranoid eyes going on in that interview. Big time. Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
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G0RF posted:Sandi has got some paranoid eyes going on in that interview. Big time. — But I'm not even with the company! How can I be fired?! — I WILL GET YOU!! — But I was just asking… — NO QUESTIONS! QUESTION AGAIN AND IT GETS THE HOSE! — [whimper]
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Synagogue of Smart? Is this a lazy attempt at alliteration or are we dealing with an anti-Semitic auditor?
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Make sure you get the head out when you try to remove Constellations. You don't want to get an infection.
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wyoak posted:what in the world is happening here? is there a separate model for when the ship is damaged or something? Two (2) Jpegs.
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So a lot of these guys think they're going to be playing Star Citizen for 20 years like NON STOP. Are they expecting that CIG is going to be rolling new poo poo out that whole time or is playing SC in 2035 going to be the same as playing Falcon 3.0 or poo poo, loving Wing Commander, exclusively in 2015 is?
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Jobbo_Fett posted:
Start asking when they expect completion of anything. The constant shifting of the start point to indicate 'development' is as dumb as constantly gainsaying the same thing over and over. It's like numbering an _alpha_ with 2.0 to indicate to the dumbasses that there's been progress since 1.0. It was stupid when it was applied to the Web by marketers and it's stupid now. D_Smart posted:Plus it's highly unlikely that Microsoft would license them to a third-party, since they simply don't do that. They tend to build their own IP. And once they bury it, that's it - that IP stays buried. Unless they can sell it (e.g. they sold Loose Canon to Ubi; but that was back when they were trying to mitigate the damages from croberts disastrous Digital Anvil fiasco). Almost immediately you mention Piranha, however. Mechwarrior franchise? Currently in a licensing deal with PGI and sublicensed through Harebrained Schemes? ShadowRun? Microsoft will do pretty much anything for a quick buck at the moment as their cash cows are threatened. D_Smart posted:Wing Commander, is out of the question. I won't touch that. Because i) see above ii) though EA would gladly license it, my guess is that after the Star Citizen fiasco, they'd probably wait and see how that fiasco ends first. Note that Piranha had the license for six years and didn't do anything with it. No, they didn't. EA pretty much said so when they claimed to have the license when PGI attempted to launch Transverse. There was talk of a licensing 'deal', but it never panned out, this was one of the central pieces to criticism of 'Transverse', that they claimed to have the IP, but decided to build something entirely the same from whole cloth. Look for statements from Russ Bullock that correct Bryan Eckman. EA retains the rights to Wing Commander.
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Star Citizen controversy made #2 on the list. http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2015/12/23/the-15-biggest-video-game-controversies-of-2015/
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serious norman posted:Two (2) Jpegs. Two space jpegs for the price of one seems like a pretty good bargain imo
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Say what you will about Warhol and the Factory, but they put out a lot more compelling poo poo than CIG. Plus they made no effort to hide their drug abuse and hedonism
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2DCAT posted:Two space jpegs for the price of one seems like a pretty good bargain imo No no, silly. You first have to buy a damaged jpeg, kind of like your first “second”-hand car. Then you can buy an upgrade to get the undamaged jpeg, at a slightly to massively higher cost.
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Hey Derek, for Xmas, please write a tongue in cheek blog about desktop commander and that vending machine. It would warm the cockles of many a goon's heart. It would be good if you had stuff like "I never attacked a vending machine. And if I did it was in self defence. I've consulted my lawyers. Period." Also buy the rights to freespace then give it back to volition. And get a position there as executive producer. ShredsYouSay fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Dec 23, 2015 |
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KiddieGrinder posted:
Getting a Kim jong vibe from this..... or is it chairman mao?
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ShredsYouSay posted:Hey Derek, for Xmas, please write a tongue in cheek blog about desktop commander and that vending machine. It would warm the cockles of many a goon's heart. I would be pretty amused if he recorded a "Let's Play!" of Desktop Commander and then posted a thread in the sub-forums.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpSs6a95nLY Well looks like the pupil to planet video made a believer out of someone. Seriously though can somebody explain to me how a space MMO is a space sim? At what point does Star Citizen seem like a sim game? I get it's in alpha but After Burner on the Sega was a better simulator then this.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPTeAK8ipmE&t=321s From AP's aforelinked Sandi interview, this part is kinda awkward.  HOST: "You'll appreciate this more than my co-host over here. It's a part of an upcoming mod I have coming for my computer. And it's this..." (He holds up a custom Aegis logo plate he's had made for the cooler of his computer. It's pretty slick-- he's got an LED light that will backlight it and color will shift depending on the machine temperature.) SANDI: ('wow i'm impressed voice') "Oooooh-- Anvil Aerospace!' HOST: "Uhhh, no it's Aegis, actually."  It's almost like she can't be bothered to know this kind of stuff. Later on, still embarrassed about getting it wrong, she remarks that she's looking at logos and they all really look alike. (Therefore her earlier mistake shouldn't matter.) Random quote I just heard while typing this up... Sandi: (17:56) "I think we have the good people at the top."
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B_of_InfoRedux posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpSs6a95nLY PvP MMO imo.
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Beet Wagon posted:I'd even take an "Honest Trailer" of any of his games. Would a jpeg suffice 
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