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Xaerael posted:Is it just me being totally clueless about game engines, or am I right in thinking that the whole reason the game freaks out all the time is because at heart it's an FPS engine being strong armed into not being an FPS engine? And that's why ships just act like an FPS with /fly on? I dunno, the game is still pre-alpha so I wanna give it some benefit of the doubt but mostly you are correct.
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Mirificus posted:
"If you pick on me, I will be sad and also spend enormous amounts of money" -a man who completely understands human nature and the motivations of griefers
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Let's pretend I walk into a park with a baseball and glove. A little kid walks into the same park, sits on a bench, and starts to watch me toss the ball into the air and catch it. Each time I toss the ball, I toss it a bit higher. This goes on for a while - each time I toss the ball in the air, I toss it higher, it goes farther, and takes farther to come back down. In that child's mind, a thought forms around the patterns he is observing: since I toss the ball higher each time, eventually I will be able to toss the ball clear into space. It's just a matter of the child continuing to watch patiently as I continue the pattern I have been following so far. From my perspective, this is preposterous. Of course there is a limit to how high I can throw the ball, for dozens of different physical reasons like my own personal strength, wind resistance, gravity, mass, etc. that are beyond a child's mind. This is the state of Star Citizen's Alpha. People who don't know any better physically see things on their monitor, and in their minds, they think "Progress. Each time I log in, it gets a little farther. This game is coming out and it's going to be awesome." Those of us who are not emotionally connected to the project, and who have been around the block a few times, log in and think "Yeah, they might squeeze a bit more client stability from this, but that's about as far as they're getting unless they make some major foundation changes. There's no way this Alpha will become the game they are pitching. They need to start over and do it right." I know people call it a cult due to the behavior of its citizens, but I think at this point it's fair to simply call it a religion. They decide what they want to believe, and then work backwards from conclusion to cause, picking the observations that support their desired conclusion, while ignoring the evidence that doesn't. Next time I see "Religion" on a form (perhaps at a mental hospital), I'm going to put in "Star Citizen." I encourage everyone to do the same. Once we're big enough, we stage a galactic war with Scientology.
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Dec 27, 2015 18:48
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Mirificus posted:
Posts like this are why I still want Star Citizen to be a thing.
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Dec 27, 2015 18:59
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Posts like this are why I still want Star Citizen to be a thing. Same. It's a huge shame that it will almost definitely not become a thing 
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Dec 27, 2015 19:02
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Still not worth paying hundreds of dollars for... maybe 30 bucks tops.
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I saw this same cult like behavior in DayZ. I commented on a reddit thread about DayZ a year ago on how the sound effects (of all things) sounded off. I got downvoted like 200 times and got yelled at by multiple people for having a stupid complaint (it wasn't a complaint, it was an observation). Notably, one guy who wouldn't stop ranting at me, trying to get more redditors to downvote me for my supposed idiocy was a guy named Rocket2Guns. It took me a while to realize that this was the actual developer of DayZ throwing a hissy fit because I made a minor criticism. Fast forward a year later, Rocket2Guns no longers works on DayZ, the game is still in alpha, with zombies completely removed from the game, and with a shitload of bugs and terrible gameplay mechanics. Thank god I never bought the game because of how lovely the dev was. And the funny thing is that Chris Roberts reacted the exact same way when that paper published its damning article of Star Citizen. He had to write his 8 hour blog because he knew they were speaking the truth, and he just wanted to charade to go longer, at least in his head. Fortunately for him, it's whaling season and the biggest whales are out at sea (Moby Dickwulf).
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Dec 27, 2015 19:15
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Xaerael posted:Still better than crobert's magnum opus. don't forget lax 2194, a pilot for a show about baggage handlers in the far future.
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Dec 27, 2015 19:16
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Scruffpuff posted:Let's pretend I walk into a park with a baseball and glove. A little kid walks into the same park, sits on a bench, and starts to watch me toss the ball into the air and catch it. Imagine four baseballs on the side of a park. Star Citizen works the same way.
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Dec 27, 2015 19:17
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hakimashou posted:What to do in the P.T.U. ? The ultimate griefers guide. Bookmarked!! You're doing God's work my friend.
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Dec 27, 2015 19:22
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Star Citizen: I don't want to be molested
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Friendly Tumour posted:whats the latest on the lawsuit Two weeks.
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Dec 27, 2015 19:24
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D_Smart posted:Two weeks. lol
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Dec 27, 2015 19:27
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How fuel is going to work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXwybQaAbbs&t=1341s
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Dec 27, 2015 19:32
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MeLKoR posted:How fuel is going to work. Different grades of fuel. Birds. Procedurally-generated hand-crafted content. Star Citizen.
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Dec 27, 2015 19:36
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MeLKoR posted:How fuel is going to work. He's pretty good at making this poo poo up as he goes. "Will there be different grades of fuel?" "Yeah, of course there will be, give me money"
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Dec 27, 2015 19:42
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Xaerael posted:Is it just me being totally clueless about game engines, or am I right in thinking that the whole reason the game freaks out all the time is because at heart it's an FPS engine being strong armed into not being an FPS engine? And that's why ships just act like an FPS with /fly on? Yes.
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Dec 27, 2015 19:43
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Space toilets that have left hand flush?
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Dec 27, 2015 19:44
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D_Smart posted:Yes. I mean... the extent of my game making knowledge is I made a really basic Half-Life map when Half-Life was a new game. With that meager claim to fame under my belt. even I can see that the engine is just utterly unsuited to the task it's being asked to do. How the hell are people still being suckered into paying for this? Am I some sort of genius Sherlock Holmes level detective that can spot the flaws in a plan without any grasp of even the fundamentals, or are the "fans" really so stupid that they truly think that CIG can turn lead into gold? I'm having one of those serious days. Urgh.
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Xaerael posted:I mean... the extent of my game making knowledge is I made a really basic Half-Life map when Half-Life was a new game. With that meager claim to fame under my belt. even I can see that the engine is just utterly unsuited to the task it's being asked to do. some people just want to see a dumpster fire burn
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Dec 27, 2015 19:58
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Get Betty Big Tits a okcupid profile and hit
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Dec 27, 2015 19:59
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Ratmtattat posted:He's pretty good at making this poo poo up as he goes. He said he is in the middle of working on it, and that was a year ago, so surely it is finished by now.
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Dec 27, 2015 20:03
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Xaerael posted:That's all well and good, but F'v=(F1+F2-t/n F1 F2)/(1-t/n F1) Yeah, Spergs won't understand that expansion. Try this: F'v = F1+(F2 - t/n) + (F1, F2)/((1-t/n), F1) They're batshit insane enough to actually try and prove that.
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Stanko-Prussian posted:Not a game dev, but the T-pose is how the model is modeled and if it snaps back to that it means the entire animation skeleton has completely hosed up and failed/stopped being attached/unloaded/whatever and the player model is basically now just a static prop. Yes, that's correct. It means the animation update has crapped out. And T is the default pose. ps: note that still no word on the fate of the Star Marine module. But no, it's not canceled. At all. This despite the fact that 2.x is still using the same lovely base anims from AC/Hangar/social modules. None of the mocap poo poo Spergs spent millions on, is in.
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Xaerael posted:I mean... the extent of my game making knowledge is I made a really basic Half-Life map when Half-Life was a new game. With that meager claim to fame under my belt. even I can see that the engine is just utterly unsuited to the task it's being asked to do. No. You're that other guy who can spot bullshit, in whatever form, a mile away. That guy who just deletes emails promising riches beyond your wildest hard-on. That guy who doesn't need any specifics in order to deduce that if it looks and sounds like bullshit, odds are, it's probably bullshit.
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Anytime someone posts a screenshot of the cig forums or reddit I feel just like Mugatu in Zoolander. "I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!"
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Xaerael posted:I mean... the extent of my game making knowledge is I made a really basic Half-Life map when Half-Life was a new game. With that meager claim to fame under my belt. even I can see that the engine is just utterly unsuited to the task it's being asked to do. The fans are so entrenched that CR could announce that they are changing engines and release won't happen until 2020 and they would applaud it as good management. It's a combination of sunk cost fallacy, an epic level of delusion, and a cult-like community that is more focused on what they're going to do with their virtual starships than when (or if) they will ever get them.
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Xaerael posted:
agree, though given citizens I think a slightly different Bubbles is more appropriate.
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Not sure if this was posted before. But Second comment; right off the bat: quote:This could happen with Star Citizen as well because Chris his brother and his Accountant/lawyer sold all their shares to the company,therefore in reality took a ton of money out of the business and put it into their pockets.Imo if not for the way over the top cash shop sales of ships,they would have been in the same situation lacking funds.Well it is already obvious when they shut down one or two operations they were taking too much money out of the business.Then of late they claim they cannot meet anymore refunds because they claim there is no money.
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HookedOnChthonics posted:agree, though given citizens I think a slightly different Bubbles is more appropriate. The hilarious thing is I'm pretty sure that character is having more fun with that 100$ rocket then all of the Shitizens are in their janky off-broadway space opera built by spergs.
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Has anyone commented on the /r/starcitizen community's love of lovely model previews. T3ller's videos are heinous, like who would think extract untextured/unskinned 3D models and make multi-minute videos ogling them is a good idea? poo poo looks like poo poo. Comparing the reliant variants WITHOUT any texturing/skinning is idiotic, BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY SETS THEM APART.
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D_Smart posted:Not sure if this was posted before. But Immediately attacked and insulted by a Star Citizen who taught himself physics and finance.
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HookedOnChthonics posted:agree, though given citizens I think a slightly different Bubbles is more appropriate. Will Star Citizen let me refuckulate the carbonator?
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D_Smart posted:Not sure if this was posted before. But If it's true then there's not a lol big enough tbh.
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D_Smart posted:Not sure if this was posted before. But  right under that comment Isn't CIG not a publicly traded company? I thought the entire point of the kickstarter and  crowdfunding was that investors and selling shares wouldn't be necessary. If Chris and them took their money out by "selling shares" there's nowhere CIG can make that money back because there are no shares to sell, but what do I know, I'm just a silly goon.
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thinking of buying the endeavor landing bay for $89.25 please advice
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Dec 27, 2015 20:55
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:thinking of buying the endeavor landing bay for $89.25 please advice It's a fantastic investment. Better than bitcoin. Buy 2.
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Dec 27, 2015 20:56
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fuctifino posted:It's a fantastic investment. Better than bitcoin. Buy 2. lol what would i do with two same thing as with one i guess
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:lol what would i do with two You get double the dream power.
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