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Ultragonk posted:Can I pretend X-Men: Deadly Genesis doesn't exist? Because that recon was blah. Sort of yes, sort of no. It's a v. silly story, but a good deal of stuff references (elements of) it later, like Darwin and Vulcan. More than that, Deadly Genesis (alongside the Son of M minis) helps set the tone of the post-House of M X-line, where you aren't expected to endorse the characters' choices, or even necessarily like the characters—just enjoy the exploration of decision and boldface Impact font CONSEQUENCES. The decade of siege mentality Rightclops, multiple X-Force murder squads, and time kidnapper Beast begins in earnest with this re-jerkening of Professor X.
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Dec 28, 2015 10:31
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Teenage Fansub posted:It led up to the cosmic stuff, so even though Bru's time on X-Men wasn't great, no you can't! OK dad.  Squizzle posted:Sort of yes, sort of no. It's a v. silly story, but a good deal of stuff references (elements of) it later, like Darwin and Vulcan. More than that, Deadly Genesis (alongside the Son of M minis) helps set the tone of the post-House of M X-line, where you aren't expected to endorse the characters' choices, or even necessarily like the characters—just enjoy the exploration of decision and boldface Impact font CONSEQUENCES. The decade of siege mentality Rightclops, multiple X-Force murder squads, and time kidnapper Beast begins in earnest with this re-jerkening of Professor X. Cyclops and Prof. X really are jerks aren't they.
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Dec 28, 2015 21:45
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Ultragonk posted:OK dad. Yeah, but a jerk who can read and control minds and has no sense of academic ethics is inherently more jerkish than a jerk with a kevlar body condom and a gun for a face who is also right.
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Dec 28, 2015 21:51
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Squizzle posted:Sort of yes, sort of no. It's a v. silly story, but a good deal of stuff references (elements of) it later, like Darwin and Vulcan. More than that, Deadly Genesis (alongside the Son of M minis) helps set the tone of the post-House of M X-line, where you aren't expected to endorse the characters' choices, or even necessarily like the characters—just enjoy the exploration of decision and boldface Impact font CONSEQUENCES. The decade of siege mentality Rightclops, multiple X-Force murder squads, and time kidnapper Beast begins in earnest with this re-jerkening of Professor X. Ultragonk posted:Cyclops and Prof. X really are jerks aren't they.
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Dec 28, 2015 21:53
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Squizzle posted:Yeah, but a jerk who can read and control minds and has no sense of academic ethics is inherently more jerkish than a jerk with a kevlar body condom and a gun for a face who is also right. Plus a lot of really fit women seem to want Cyclop's wang.
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Dec 28, 2015 22:00
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Ultragonk posted:Plus a lot of really fit women seem to want Cyclop's wang. Telepaths have a natural affinity for a person who is so incredibly right.
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Dec 28, 2015 22:07
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Squizzle posted:Telepaths have a natural affinity for a person who is so incredibly right. Is this stuff about Scott being right from Avengers v X-Men? I should get around to reading that.
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Dec 28, 2015 22:44
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What are everyone's thought on Planet Hulk? Worth reading? I haven't read much Hulk but used to love him when I was a kid.
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Dec 28, 2015 23:49
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Ultragonk posted:What are everyone's thought on Planet Hulk? Worth reading? I haven't read much Hulk but used to love him when I was a kid. Easily among the best Hulk stories. A shame that the follow up, World War Hulk isn't nearly as good.
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Dec 28, 2015 23:51
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Rhyno posted:Easily among the best Hulk stories. A shame that the follow up, World War Hulk isn't nearly as good. Cool. I liked the movie they did of it so I was hoping the comic version was great.
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Dec 29, 2015 00:23
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I just read Forever Evil (and it's the most recent thing from DC I've read) and I was wondering if a few things have been touched on yet/ever. IIRC, this all was in continuity, but I don't know if any of this would still remain after Cataclysm/Whatever Crisis/Darkseid War Is the Owlman from this story (Earth 3?) the same guy from Court of Owls? Is he still around in any shape or form? Did Super Woman have the baby? Is Ultraman still locked up somewhere? Has the Power Ring ring found a new host yet?
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Dec 29, 2015 02:41
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Ultragonk posted:Is this stuff about Scott being right from Avengers v X-Men? I should get around to reading that. Yes, but don't it's bad.
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Dec 29, 2015 03:45
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It comes from Scott being right about everything, unironically.
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Dec 29, 2015 03:47
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WickedHate posted:It comes from Scott being right about everything, unironically. It's true but that is mostly because everyone is really dumb more than him being smart. Plus he tried to smother the Inhumans in the crib, and I respect that.
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Dec 29, 2015 04:08
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Ultragonk posted:Cool. I liked the movie they did of it so I was hoping the comic version was great. Definitely read the comic. The movie glosses over cool plot points due to time constraints, and the comic art is significantly better.
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Dec 29, 2015 07:58
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From what I remember...CzarChasm posted:Is the Owlman from this story (Earth 3?) the same guy from Court of Owls? Is he still around in any shape or form? Talon had his own thing going for a while but I've honestly dropped that thread. quote:Did Super Woman have the baby? quote:Is Ultraman still locked up somewhere? quote:Has the Power Ring ring found a new host yet? FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Dec 29, 2015 |
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Dec 29, 2015 10:16
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CharlestheHammer posted:Plus he tried to smother the Inhumans in the crib, and I respect that. Wait, what?
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Dec 29, 2015 11:33
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What's the status of Marvel's mutants these days? I know the T-mist has made them sterile or something but are there lots and lots and lots of them again or for some reason are there now only 50 or something?
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Dec 29, 2015 12:36
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I only tried to read Extraordinary X-Men cause of my boy Jeff Lemire, but he broke my heart with that crap and I quit it after two issues so this is all wrong but here ya go.. The X-kids are still around, Wolverine is still a statue (I think), Old Man Logan Wolverine popped over from Secret Wars and is buddies with young Jean, Storm leads the X-School and they live in Limbo Then I gave up on Extraordinary X-Men, but glazing over spoilery things, it's something like regular Scott Summers went off against the Inhumans and 'died' some time in the eight month gap between the Secret Wars incursion and ANAD, but Mr Sinister has actually been experimenting on him, pumping him full of T-gas and now he's an Inhuman mutant combo monster that can grow scales or something. The two Inhumans books are real good X-Men substitutes right now 
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Dec 29, 2015 13:08
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Teenage Fansub posted:I only tried to read Extraordinary X-Men cause of my boy Jeff Lemire, but he broke my heart with that crap and I quit it after two issues so this is all wrong but here ya go.. So are there lots and lots of mutants right now or are we still in the post M day under 200 mutants population?
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Dec 29, 2015 13:47
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Extraordinary X-Men feels like a good writer saddled with a really lousy premise.
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Dec 29, 2015 15:03
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Ultragonk posted:So are there lots and lots of mutants right now or are we still in the post M day under 200 mutants population? I don't think they've ever said how many there are, but new mutants are able to be born after the events of AvX. They're not limited to 200, but there also hasn't been time to repopulate the millions that there used to be. Also, a lot of them are dying because of Terrigen. Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, I'm not sure if the Terrigen is preventing new mutants from being born. That's a recent enough development that I'm not sure they've said yet. Super Dan fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Dec 29, 2015 |
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Dec 29, 2015 15:53
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They are just throwing around "Sterile" but that could mean that mutants can't have children but humans can still produce mutants.
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Dec 29, 2015 16:46
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It's not even a guarantee that a mutant couple will have a mutant child, so whatever.
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Dec 29, 2015 17:51
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I think I've seen Storm or somebody explain "sterile" as people whose X-gene should be activating but isn't. But I dunno. What I'm wondering is, what the hell is M-Pox? Do stupid people just think the Terrigen's effects on mutants is somehow contagious?
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Dec 29, 2015 18:04
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That seems to be the long and short of it.
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Dec 29, 2015 18:12
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I wouldn't be a fan of the constantly pissing on mutants stuff no matter what, but the fact that it's being done out of blatant spite because Fox has the movie rights just kicks the whole thing past distasteful and into "ok, gently caress you too then" for me.
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Dec 29, 2015 18:35
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CapnAndy posted:I wouldn't be a fan of the constantly pissing on mutants stuff no matter what, but the fact that it's being done out of blatant spite because Fox has the movie rights just kicks the whole thing past distasteful and into "ok, gently caress you too then" for me. I was reading comics in the '80s and early '90s when mutants were top of the food chain and you couldn't get away from them, so I'm okay with their getting poo poo on.
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Dec 29, 2015 18:37
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Lurdiak posted:It's not even a guarantee that a mutant couple will have a mutant child, so whatever. Like Graydon Creed!
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Dec 29, 2015 18:47
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CapnAndy posted:I wouldn't be a fan of the constantly pissing on mutants stuff no matter what, but the fact that it's being done out of blatant spite because Fox has the movie rights just kicks the whole thing past distasteful and into "ok, gently caress you too then" for me. Really? Is that a thing? Seems a bit petty. Also thanks everyone, it has been fun getting back into comics and you've all been really helpful.
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Dec 29, 2015 18:57
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They'll deny the hell out of it, but yeah. Any new mutants created go straight to Fox and the movies are where the real money is now so there's no incentive for Marvel to put too much effort into the X-Men nowadays. They're still very popular so they're not going to just stop publishing them like they did with Fantastic Four. Unlike the Spider-Man deal at Sony, Fox gets all the merchandise money too, which is why there's been no X-Men toys or anything for years. There's finally an X-Men marvel legends line coming out in 2016 and toy nerds are freaking out.
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Dec 29, 2015 19:48
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Ultragonk posted:Really? Is that a thing? Seems a bit petty. No it's not a thing, mutants get poo poo on because that's their job as a nebulous minority stand in, being repressed and always near extinction to keep the theme alive.
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Dec 29, 2015 19:53
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I thought the thing was less making GBS threads on mutants and more making the Inhuman's the new "mutants" (ie popular superhero franchise like X-Men used to be) because Marvel can put inhumans in their movies but not mutants.
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Dec 29, 2015 19:56
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I'm pretty sure they want to avoid the Quicksilver situation ever happening again.
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Dec 29, 2015 20:00
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Travis343 posted:They'll deny the hell out of it, but yeah. Any new mutants created go straight to Fox and the movies are where the real money is now so there's no incentive for Marvel to put too much effort into the X-Men nowadays. They're still very popular so they're not going to just stop publishing them like they did with Fantastic Four. I doubt very much they get merchandise money from the comic characters, just their movie counterparts. If they got all merchandise rights that would be crazy and a horrible contract.
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Dec 29, 2015 20:23
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Travis343 posted:They'll deny the hell out of it, but yeah. Any new mutants created go straight to Fox and the movies are where the real money is now so there's no incentive for Marvel to put too much effort into the X-Men nowadays. They're still very popular so they're not going to just stop publishing them like they did with Fantastic Four. It can't be all of it, or there would be no X-Men merchandise ever.
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Dec 29, 2015 20:26
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It's not all but it was indeed 100% of film inspired toys. And something like 40% of non film merch.
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Dec 29, 2015 20:37
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Marvel has the actual control over toys though, right? That's why there hasn't been any movie merchandise? Or are they just strong arming Mattel, Hasbro etc.?
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Dec 29, 2015 20:52
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Aphrodite posted:Marvel has the actual control over toys though, right? That's why there hasn't been any movie merchandise? Correct, Fox can not just create a toy line without Marvel.
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Dec 29, 2015 21:07
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