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Comrade Koba posted:Delta Green is what the Cthulhy Mythos would be like if it'd been written by a competent writer instead of H.P. Lovecraft. Intriguing. theironjef posted:Here is an Afterthought for you guys, hopefully you want to discuss favorite campaign settings with us. If you think the Forgotten Realms are overexplained, you will hate Aventuria from The Dark Eye. It's older, maybe 1/4 the size, and it never really had to share the writers' attention with another setting. As for my favorite settings, I'm more of a sandbox guy, and Stars Without Number just has a nice backdrop where you can include just about any flavor of sci-fi and it still makes sense. For "proper" settings, I'd go for Tenra Bansho Zero (which is a bit like Warhammer 40k if you'd replace the ridiculous pauldrons with Akira Kurosawa) and Double Cross (which is not only a neat supers setting, but also the closest to World of Darkness I'm willing to go). quote:Stereotypes The last one reminds me of a parody stereotype table I made for Princess: The Hopeful. Fossilized Rappy posted:
I call this a gross understatement. They're one of the best in general. Doresh fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Dec 30, 2015 |
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Who after the 19th century spells "muslims" with an o and an e?
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Josef bugman posted:Who after the 19th century spells "muslims" with an o and an e? Could be worse, it could be spelled Mohammadans.
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TombsGrave posted:I figure Wick would just throw a hissy and quit and write an extremely inaccurate story about how a bunch of powergaming jerks couldn't sufficiently immerse themselves in worlds of his creation. Unknown Armies is so good it infected my worldview for awhile, and I want to tell everyone about it 'cause it's so awesome. Over the Edge sounds good too, and Mage: The Ascension is a close second. To actually play, I think I'd enjoy Feng Shui or 7th Sea.
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What actually impresses me the most about Unknown Armies is not the campaign setting, specifically, but how straightforward the system is and how it encompasses pretty much everything that's in the setting. Most 90s-00s modern supernatural games can't say that.
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theironjef posted:Here is an Afterthought for you guys, hopefully you want to discuss favorite campaign settings with us. Uh, I like too many, but let's go with: Settings I Like As-Is: Planescape, New World of Darkness, Marvel Comics, Double Cross, Autoduel Settings I'd Love to Fix: Exalted, Rifts, Legend of the Five Rings, Illuminati University Settings I Admire From Afar: Unknown Armies, Glorantha, Mystara Of course, the best settings are the ones I've made, but nobody cares about those! Just wait! I'll shove them down your throats someday!
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theironjef posted:Here is an Afterthought for you guys, hopefully you want to discuss favorite campaign settings with us. Castle Falkenstein and Brave New World. The first is a Prisoner of Zenda inspired fantasy universe with non-annoying steampunk flourishes and one of the most amazing uses of fluff text ever. The other is a superhero version of Deadlands at its core with a fascinating political background.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Uh, I like too many, but let's go with: Apropos of nothing, you should run a VASCU game. My personal favorite settings are Ars Magica and nWoD. Planescape is also p. great but as time has gone on I've realized that I never want to play it if it means having to interact with D&D rules. I am also really fond of Through the Breach and Legends of the Wulin. I like reading about Glorantha, and at one time I enjoyed Exalted but have since moved on to a view that it needs to be dead and buried and the world can find another, better ancient anime/wuxia game.
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Bieeardo posted:I get the feeling that 'guns to butter' spell is both a play on 'hammering swords into ploughshares' and the old guns vs butter economic model, like the Magic Bullet is probably a nod and wink to Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories. Josef bugman posted:Who after the 19th century spells "muslims" with an o and an e? 
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This is going to be really obscure, but setting material I've actually used in games are the Dissidents in Darland, which is basically Fantasy Weimar Germany, and The New World I like Glorantha from afar, but there's just so much material to it that it's hard to get caught up. Delta Green I will second as an excellent setting. I also like the Chaos Scar as one of the later 4e settings, although I've only just begun to scratch the surface of it.
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I would love to see Glorantha get even slightly into the mainstream. It'd be wonderful if KoDP became the next 5 nights at Freddie's and more people became interested in it. And yeah there is a lot of stuff, what we need is a kind of map like this one:  To show people what bits are where. Josef bugman fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Dec 30, 2015 |
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Dec 30, 2015 01:44
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In the one game of Delta Green I played, we had two hours of masturbating over a gear list followed by a furtive attempt at investigation, concluded with a running poo poo-show of a gun battle that was more hilarious than anything due to the involvement of Insects from Shaggai.
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Josef bugman posted:I really want to see Wick try and flail about in Glorantha. With our luck, it would probably look something like this: quote:I can't stand Heroquest.
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Mors Rattus posted:I like reading about Glorantha, and at one time I enjoyed Exalted but have since moved on to a view that it needs to be dead and buried and the world can find another, better ancient anime/wuxia game. VASCU? You forget all my eyerolling during the slasher review? (I secretly like it but not all of the implementation, basically.) As for Exalted, yeah, I hear that. I've been torn at this point as to whether or not this is the year I sell off my Exalted 1e and 2e collection based on 3e, and it it's pretty close to complete; I'm only missing most of the novels, but from the two I read, I'm cool with that.
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Halloween Jack posted:It's kinda sad how literally every take on Carcosa is better than Derleth's. Even all the dumb irrelevant stories in A Season in Carcosa. Derleth is the only writer I know of who could completely mess up a well known Lovecraft alien race on top of it all being in a serious story that had multiple Edgar Allen Poes.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:VASCU? You forget all my eyerolling during the slasher review? (I secretly like it but not all of the implementation, basically.) ...yeah, actually, I totally did forget. What problems do you have with Teleinformatics? I think with Chronicles out, they could be easily reworked to better fit the new Investigation rules and poo poo, but the basic premise of 'the FBI has a team of psychics trying to arrest supernatural criminals' is just the best.
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Mostly my eyerolling was "and this type of slasher is called X and does Y usually because of Z" World of Darkness-isms. Not that such'd be hard to change, but it felt a little weird trying to make serial killers more predictable.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Mostly my eyerolling was "and this type of slasher is called X and does Y usually because of Z" World of Darkness-isms. Not that such'd be hard to change, but it felt a little weird trying to make serial killers more predictable. Oh, sure. That part is pretty goofy. But that's not the part I asked you to run! VASCU is a Hunter group, while they hunt serial killers, they also hunt down any magic criminal.
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LornMarkus posted:Sadly the campaign talk was kind of a wash for me because I never played/read about Planescape. On the other hand, thanks for that random clip in the Q&A because I'd completely forgotten I really liked that song and that movie. I'd say take a look at this awesome LP of Planescape: Torment by Shadow Catboy. In addition to covering the angles of one of the best PC RPGs ever, in many ways it captures the setting's flavor even better than the tabletop material. http://lparchive.org/Planescape-Torment/
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Also going to say that despite my Planescape love, it's still neck-in-neck with Eberron. I like the fact that Eberron takes so many D&D troupes and turns them on its head, particularly since it's the first setting to outright say "there's no such thing as Always Chaotic Evil."
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Dark Sun rules, but some of the little fiddly bits that incorporate it into AD&D2 (like penalties for a bone sword) are more trouble than they're worth. It fits very very well into 4e's ethos.
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LornMarkus posted:Sadly the campaign talk was kind of a wash for me because I never played/read about Planescape. On the other hand, thanks for that random clip in the Q&A because I'd completely forgotten I really liked that song and that movie. Planescape allowed me the opportunity to do some ad-hoc Law and Order lawyering to get my party members declared not guilty after getting nabbed by the Harmonium, so it's alright with me.
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Halloween Jack posted:Dark Sun rules, but some of the little fiddly bits that incorporate it into AD&D2 (like penalties for a bone sword) are more trouble than they're worth. It fits very very well into 4e's ethos. 4e's math is tight enough that they can just say "Here's what would happen if you didn't have magic items.. cause, you know, you aren't going to have any on Athas."
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Mostly my eyerolling was "and this type of slasher is called X and does Y usually because of Z" World of Darkness-isms. Not that such'd be hard to change, but it felt a little weird trying to make serial killers more predictable.  I felt like it worked, insofar as 'X type of Slasher that operates in Y way' is something that's easy to internalize because that's riffing clearly on existing horror cliches?
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Bacon In A Wok posted:With our luck, it would probably look something like this: Jesus christ John Wick is the very definition of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. This is exactly what some mouthy jackass who knows less than 1% of what he thinks he knows about anthropology would say. The closest real world analog to a heroquest is various cultures' shamanic rituals, which is completely unsurprising given that Greg Stafford is a practicing shaman. And note the weasel-out of that last sentence, the STDH-version of "and then everyone called me a loving loser and went out for pizza."
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Lambo Trillrissian posted:Yes, more maps You cracked the code!
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My big favourites have been mentioned, so I'll try to break newer ground. TORG. TORG really strikes me as what the Discworld eventually developed into, with its varying degrees of awareness of narrative causality and the rules that drive that set of secondhand dimensions... but in the most horribly earnest, anal-retentive way, like people discussing how peasant railguns have revolutionized warfare, without a trace of humour. I'd love to see the setting rebuilt in a way that ejects that cascading mess of Everlaws and scenarios that can only be won if certain cards are drawn in a specific order and made it a game about stories, rather than a game about being in a universe operated by the rules of a clunky 90s RPG. Edit: I thought to say something about the Forgotten Realms, but no. Taking out Elminster and Friends would be cruelty for its own sake, and beyond that you need to dig really, really deep to find anything particularly original to salvage from that accretion of sidebars and mess. Bieeanshee fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Dec 30, 2015 |
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Bacon In A Wok posted:With our luck, it would probably look something like this: Is this really his words, or you writing something in his voice? Because I can't loving tell.
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Where's the Good Shangri-La?
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Simian_Prime posted:Also going to say that despite my Planescape love, it's still neck-in-neck with Eberron. I like the fact that Eberron takes so many D&D troupes and turns them on its head, particularly since it's the first setting to outright say "there's no such thing as Always Chaotic Evil." You know, I really dug Eberron too. I loved that they went all in with the new takes on the races in 4e, like that gnome city that was full of fey assassins trying to one-up each other. Notably Forgotten Realms responded to the new race takes by introducing subraces that were just the old ones, so meh. Outside of D&D, I'd say my favorites remain the insane world of a (home balanced) Rifts Underseas and the post-apocalypse of 7th edition Gamma World's Gamma Terra.
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Simian_Prime posted:I like the fact that Eberron takes so many D&D troupes and turns them on its head, particularly since it's the first setting to outright say "there's no such thing as Always Chaotic Evil."
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And on the other hand, you just know what he would do to something like Blue Rose. Which would actually put him closer to certain kinds of grogs that he would otherwise deride for their zealotry in defending D&D.
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FMguru posted:It's instructive to compare Eberron to Wick's ideas about how to turn stale old D&D cliches on their head (the paladins are the bad guys and the orks are the good guys!!1! #wow #whoa) My favorite are the orc tribes who roam the fringes of the demon wastes killing anyone they come across. They're actually a sect of Paladins who think anyone who tries to enter or leave the demon wastes is probably evil and it's best to shuffle them off the mortal coil. There's maybe three people outside of those tribes that know that, and they're all in the silver flame church, because the Orcs are actually worshipping their own weird tribal perversion of it. They just think it's better if everyone thinks they're evil psychopaths and not actually associated with them in any way.
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Pieces of Peace posted:Jesus christ John Wick is the very definition of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. This is exactly what some mouthy jackass who knows less than 1% of what he thinks he knows about anthropology would say. The closest real world analog to a heroquest is various cultures' shamanic rituals, which is completely unsurprising given that Greg Stafford is a practicing shaman. I have to point out before this gets legs that Bacon was just making poo poo up and that Wick actually really likes and respects old Chaosium and Stafford's work in particular.
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It was just so uncannily Wickish.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:I have to point out before this gets legs that Bacon was just making poo poo up and that Wick actually really likes and respects old Chaosium and Stafford's work in particular. drat, that was entirely too convincing. It just hit all the marks. I think in retrospect the hypothetical Wick actually admitting his players wouldn't be horrified-yet-thrilled and dancing in his puppetmaster hands was a giveaway.
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I usually play in 13th Age’s gonzo fantasy setting and the Star Wars universe, but I’m interested in Warbirds (1920s celebrity sky pirates) and Tropicana (modern banana republic).
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Lambo Trillrissian posted:Yes, more maps I was just meaning it as a brief example, unless the "racism/ colonialism" bits are meant to show what you think of Gloranthas cultures. gradenko_2000 posted:Where's the Good Shangri-La? No idea, I found that ages ago in the Hot Modrons thread.
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