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Lowtax posted:Every time I see Derek Smart's smarmy headshot photo, I think somebody drew chalk on a baked potato  edit: I get a lot of cheap satisfaction from the fact that all of you have to read this lovely post
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 I bet the corporate espionage line is something Ortwin cooked up to give some thin excuse for a ban. It also is so overblown from the actual crime, which is to divulge trade secrets from the inside-out in order to gain an advantage over competitors. This is a stalling tactic as I suspect most of their money is kept away in Germany under Ortwin's company accounts and they can't be arsed eating the international wire fees and currency conversions. Or there's still an investor or two in the ranks and they're trying to fudge the numbers so it doesn't look a dire exodus of backers on any reports.  Buy yeah holy-hell does the narcissism stream off that letter. That sales-woman line is incredible. Note she doesn't mention her reputed study done at UCLA school of management as her qualification. Stuff that went off her LinkedIn profile once people started questioning things back in 2014. According to her meet the devs video. quote:SG - Now, I actually had basically been doing a lot of modelling and acting and also working in other areas in marketing - as marketing manager, marketing director - so I had had other marketing roles. Yup her complete "marketing experience' was as a promoter in a club or as a model. Look pretty and hand people a flyer and perhaps throw in a rehearsed sales pitch. I love the gradually aggressive flourishes as she tries to handwave hard facts before drowning in a word salad then dizzing Elite, a game created by a public traded company which puts it's earnings online. Ask Sandi for an annual report that shows balances, liabilities, risks and so on. And dear lord at the idea of Chris coding when he hasn't done anything solid since Wing Commander 1!
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Generation Internet posted:Personally I loved the blog where he interviewed Assad about his opinions on the space video game, controversial sure but you can't deny his industry experience Wasn't there some metric somewhere that indicated that the Middle East was one of the regions, along with the US and Germany, where Star Citizen had the most traction?
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:don't go friend He can't bring himself to. His post was such a definition of  it couldn't be more exemplary of it, because he knows this poo poo is wrong but he has to keep believing so he just goes: "Wow, you guys clearly have no life, unlike me who monitors this thread in valiant defense of CIG, welp...off I go!" Except this time, for some mysteeeerious reason...he can't mount ANY kind of defense hahahahah.Hey Gryphon, you chickenshit! Address some of the points in that exchange instead, so we can actually have a debate that's interesting! CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jan 5, 2016 |
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Romes128 posted:Also include a link to. Christ robbers playing star citizen. Yes. We can watch him practice his search and destroy typing style and imagine him using that technique to code revolutionary new features for Cryengine. Like birds, and space news vans.
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Generation Internet posted:Personally I loved the blog where he interviewed Assad about his opinions on the space video game, controversial sure but you can't deny his industry experience
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Realtalk, how much money do you think crobberts, his brother, sandi and whowever else has siphoned off from this project so far? I've gotta believe at least 70% has gone to things other than development, mocap and Restoration HardwareTM purchases. They can't have spent more than 35 million even with the clusterfuck management so far.
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Lowtax posted:I'm actually in the process of writing one  This is great. SC has been tons of fun to watch from the sidelines.
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It's funny how you notice new things in these every time you look. For instance, the stains all over the shirt this guy has chosen to wear for a picture. 
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What's weird is the sandi emails are making me beleive the things that Derek smart says now. There was no way to validate his claims until they basically just said he had a source.
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Jan 5, 2016 17:08
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tooterfish posted:It's funny how you notice new things in these every time you look. It speaks to his devotion to the cause that it's actually his finest shirt
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tooterfish posted:It's funny how you notice new things in these every time you look. In space, no one can hear you clean
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Derek was right all along and another Sandi meltdownquote:Hahahahahahaha Beer sure is salty because of his ban. quote:Yes. I skipped most of beers screeds once I realized it was all the same bullshit. quote:Where was Sandi's meltdown, ... and what was Derek right about, ??? quote:Umm, I can't believe I read through so many emails. Poor customer service, they're flooded with so many requests already and this one person is wasting so much of their time D: But the emails have been really civil, which is good. I'm dying
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Nothing's hanging out, if you look closely you can see his cock neatly folded into the bottom of his shirt So, piss-soaked AND pantless. It IS his ship, you know. He was a backer. You're just a lousy, faithless, johnny come lately crew member, so shut UP! He can find better uses for that air, you know.
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DigitalMocking posted:Realtalk, how much money do you think crobberts, his brother, sandi and whowever else has siphoned off from this project so far? Impossible to tell because they try incredibly hard to protect their financials. Only thing we do know is Chris and sandi have a 15k per month mansion and someone has a special edition porsche 911 It's a good guess that most of they money has went into sq42 and opening mocap studios and they're spending the bare minimum on Star citizen and pocketing a bunch of cash.
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Lowtax posted:In space, no one can hear you clean I wish I were in space. My washing machine is so noisy. 
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Lowtax posted:I'm actually in the process of writing one 
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Martout posted:If the AI is so revolutionary and responsive why don't any of the other NPCs help this poor guy? At least put a blanket on him or something. I can hear the parrrrrrps. Cam you hear them, Clarice?
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Chalks posted:I think these emails clear up once and for all the question of whether or not Star Citizen is an intentional scam from those at the top: It's clearly not. There was a time I did believe it was a scam. But for it to be a scam, you have to have some measure of self-awareness, that at some point you know the jig will be up and you've got to run with the money. Or you are preparing something half-assed. This is simply not the case. CR thinks he is some sort of Steve Jobsian figure where he can just say 'build this' because he is some sort of visionary and anything is possible and it will just be built. He is an ignorant old man who just drank up the hype of the most autistic, ignorant and some of the dumbest nerds out there. I mean, look at those loving pictures. Holy gently caress. There's a guy who thinks taking a picture of himself taking a poo poo in space is something cool and good. The SC themselves and CR were made for each other. I don't think either of them have played a video game in over a decade. I do think that Ortwin is prepared to gtfo when the jig is up though. No way is he a true believer. CR will probably still be promising features from a cardboard refrigerator box with a vhs camera on Skid Row. As for the people that work there, I think they still are there because a job is a job. Don't know how many truly talented people are left. Gaming isn't that big of an industry and in most small industries, gossip spreads fast even if the outside world doesn't know about it. I can't imagine CIG is spoken of well in circles. So you either have people who are being paid enough to not give a gently caress or people who don't know any better. I really doubt there are any true believers besides Ben (you need to seriously lose some loving weight dude, you look like you're going to be dead within five years, holy poo poo) who are doing it for below industry pay
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i joined something awful for warhammer online i stayed to make fun of terrible poo poo on the internet
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Eonwe posted:i joined something awful for warhammer online like warhammer online and star citizen
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DigitalMocking posted:Realtalk, how much money do you think crobberts, his brother, sandi and whowever else has siphoned off from this project so far? I'm going to ballpark that they've spent between 80 and 90 million. There are so many costs to factor in - money has a tendency to leak like a sieve even in a tightly managed company. This company doesn't appear to be managed at all. There are the obvious costs, like salaries, rent, etc. - I see most theorycrafting revolve around those kinds of semi-concrete numbers. But so much money has gone into less tangible costs too - continually moving between studios as an example - that kind of reorganization, even as a cost-cutting measure, itself costs money. Building multiple motion-capture studios, along with all the equipment, rather than renting. Ongoing utilities and maintenance costs. Legal fees. Then you factor in all the vacations, mansion, cars, coffee machines, expensive furniture, so Chris can pretend he's in charge of a big time studio, even though he isn't. Equipment for constantly broadcasting their propaganda videos, which they are terming open development. Then, factor in the intangible cost that while all these developers are faffing about between studios, moving all the furniture around, and getting on camera, they are not working on the game. The money adds up so much faster than people generally think. How often does a private individual, even when watching expenses closely, look at their account at the end of the month and think "poo poo, I thought I had more than this?" And that's just little things like extra gas you might have used, that extra trip to Wendy's when you weren't that hungry, those couple of beers you had with friends that you wrote off. It all comes from somewhere. Multiply that poo poo times hundreds of employees and 4 offices across 3 countries, and two egomaniacs at the top who have convinced themselves that they are infallible. I'm convinced their expenses have caught up to their proceeds, and they're now living "paycheck to paycheck", which is why it's to important to end dissent. Scruffpuff fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Jan 5, 2016 |
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The doublethink is staggering. It took >3 months for someone to say "oh yeah we ignored our own rules and banned you for poo poo you said on another website, peace" and somehow Beer is the agitator.
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im the head of marketing for a company i get in arguments with my customers via support tickets, talk about how im a teacher, a sales genius and use the word butt-hurt
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Also ^ you forgot to edit out your first name. drat, oh well. Anyone who puts any effort into it can easily find my name so it's not that big of a deal. AP posted:
I also find it hard to believe that an anonymous CS rep would offer me a refund, without me even asking, when CIG's policy at the time was to deny all of them. fuctifino posted:I'm probably a few pages behind... I'm half way through the email exchanges, and holy gently caress these emails are amazing. I don't know how you remained so polite throughout.... Lots of practice.
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Scruffpuff posted:I'm going to ballpark that they've spent between 80 and 90 million. There are so many costs to factor in - money has a tendency to leak like a sieve even in a tightly managed company. This company doesn't appear to be managed at all. Derek said last month they had like 11 million left Which I now believe because cig admitted he has a source. Lol.
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Eonwe posted:who am i One of the purple spinny elephant things who post a lot.
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Eonwe posted:like warhammer online I actually read the forums before it became pay-only, I just never registered. I am old.
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DigitalMocking posted:Realtalk, how much money do you think crobberts, his brother, sandi and whowever else has siphoned off from this project so far? Who really gives a poo poo, you are a spastic to believe that if you head a $100mil company which brings in over $2mil/month that every single penny should go towards development and the people of the company should live their personal lives on the absolute loving minimum, it's people like you who expect Chris to be eating beans on toast every day because the extra money it would cost to eat steak is strictly for game development only, you are DELUSIONAL! Croberts is the chairman of a $100mil+ company, are you really so loving surprised that he is driving around in a Ferrari and living in a mansion? Think about it, and I'm sure if you had created such a company you would be doing the same. "Hey guys we got another 1.5mil in pledges this month, hookers and blow for everybody!"
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That Works posted:The doublethink is staggering. It took >3 months for someone to say "oh yeah we ignored our own rules and banned you for poo poo you said on another website, peace" and somehow Beer is the agitator. Personally I think it's extremely good that a space video game company uses the same language as autocratic regimes to describe people who have criticisms of their space video game Have you seen any malcontents lately, citizens ?
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Daztek posted:One of the purple spinny elephant things who post a lot. deep
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Laserpig posted:Who really gives a poo poo, you are a spastic to believe that if you head a $100mil company which brings in over $2mil/month that every single penny should go towards development and the people of the company should live their personal lives on the absolute loving minimum, it's people like you who expect Chris to be eating beans on toast every day because the extra money it would cost to eat steak is strictly for game development only, you are DELUSIONAL! That's not how companies work Fist yourself rolex deep you little poo poo.
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Romes128 posted:Derek said last month they had like 11 million left drat, you quoted my tag fail.
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tooterfish posted:It's funny how you notice new things in these every time you look. There is a lot going on. If you start at the top and work down it tells a complex story. Flock wallpaper. Sex offender face. Wild west jacket. Piss/poo poo/cum/dribble stained shirt. Ammo belt, of course. One finger in a belt loop, the other hand just hanging free. Gun on a thigh holster, for those quick draw situations (goes with the jacket, natch). The trousers which look a bit like those dumb things that zip off at the knee to convert into shorts. Trainers that look like the kind of thing a 60 yr old retired man wears to the gym. Old lady carpet. I just hope whoever took the picture is okay, because it sort of looks like the other side of that infamous last photo of a murder victim where she's leaning away from the camera looking terrified.
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Dapper Dan posted:I actually read the forums before it became pay-only, I just never registered. I am old. my friend told me about it when I was a freshman in highschool but i didnt have a debit card and i wasnt going to ask to use my mom's card to join a message board
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Scruffpuff posted:drat, you quoted my tag fail. Sorry I'm bored and just want to poo poo post.
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Generation Internet posted:Personally I think it's extremely good that a space video game company uses the same language as autocratic regimes to describe people who have criticisms of their space video game "When our product ships you will be 1st against the wall"
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Romes128 posted:Derek said last month they had like 11 million left Well then you're a loving retard if that's what you believe, if his company is taking in more than $2mil every month then they're nowhere near to running out of money, which is what Dickhead Smart is suggesting... And what you are believing.
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Romes128 posted:Sorry I'm bored and just want to poo poo post. It's all good - we can't all be perfect like Sandi and Chris. My mistakes make me ... human. I'll never fit in, in the 'Verse.
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