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MMD3
May 16, 2006

Montmartre -> Portland

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:



Yeah that looks like a workload that will be done in a few years.

So not counting variants, that's something like 11 play-ready ships and 26 or so ships that are still in production?

Have they ever stated how many ships they are planning on launching the game with at any point?

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Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





A Neurotic Jew posted:

I can't believe she literally wrote that she does the work of 6 people. I mean it's one thing to just say it off the cuff...but to write it out and send it to someone and think "this is good, this is what I want to convey".

:yikes:

The work of six people. Which is funny because I apparently have enough free time to argue with Beer over why he hates me and how that makes me sad.

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005

MMD3 posted:

So not counting variants, that's something like 11 play-ready ships and 26 or so ships that are still in production?

Have they ever stated how many ships they are planning on launching the game with at any point?

Wave 5 is inbound really soon. This is not a joke.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Bait and Swatch posted:

We are over thinking this, we are clearly the personalities ofDr. DSmart

I'm pretty sure I'm his modesty

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

TTerrible posted:

Wave 5 is inbound really soon. This is not a joke.

What is wave 5? Is that a bunch of new ships or them actually releasing planned ships?

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

It's like he's tickling an invisible whale to find out where the emergency food money is stashed.

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005

Chalks posted:

What is wave 5? Is that a bunch of new ships or them actually releasing planned ships?

It is a whole bunch of new concepts. There was a reddit post about it recently.

RuckusRouser
Sep 28, 2015

Theres a lot of close ups of landing gear

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:



Yeah that looks like a workload that will be done in a few years.

I haven't yet seen anyone bring up a pretty large elephant in the room: the fact that the Javelin (the $2,500 ship) does not even have an in-game model of any sort. It isn't even in Beer's picture. It simply has a few pieces of concept art.

Keep in mind how often they claim ships like the Freelancer take an immense amount of manhours, and then upscale that to a destroyer, the biggest ship in the game which they have to design an entire interior for.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Eonwe posted:

i actually do not know, PM or Steam me about it, friend

We've had this conversation already. I believe in you Eonwe, I know you can do it.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

G0RF posted:

Putting aside the Mathilda / Sandi thing for a second, because it's probably more fantasy than fact...

I don't assume Chris wastes his time reading detractor noise here or elsewhere--- but I am absolutely certain Sandi does. The circumstantial case for THAT is all over her "Reverse the Verse" appearances and her online interviews like "Ask Sandi". (Trust me, I've endured too many of them.)

She is paying pretty close attention to the anti-CIG narratives, and particularly to those involving her. Some of those counter narratives are unique to this forum (since they get down voted to invisibility on Reddit and thread locked on RSI). Sometimes Sandi's asides in interviews seem expressly aimed at rebutting (or provoking) detractors and their theories here. (And obviously, she's been responding to Derek Smart's bait before he caught media attention for his latest campaign).

I don't say that to suggest we are engaged in some consequential work here- because it's mostly just a LOLtrain ride through an especially epic disaster zone. But we appear to be dealing with a Grade A Narcissist here. Hypersensitivity to criticism (even of the most inconsequential kind) is par for the course.
Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD)

Symptoms of this disorder, as defined by the DSM-5, include:

A. Significant impairments in personality functioning manifested by:

1. Impairments in self functioning (a or b):
a. Identity: Excessive reference to others for self-definition and self-esteem regulation; exaggerated self-appraisal may be inflated or deflated, or vacillate between extremes; emotional regulation mirrors fluctuations in self-esteem.
b. Self-direction: Goal-setting is based on gaining approval from others; personal standards are unreasonably high in order to see oneself as exceptional, or too low based on a sense of entitlement; often unaware of own motivations.
AND
2. Impairments in interpersonal functioning (a or b):
a. Empathy: Impaired ability to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others; excessively attuned to reactions of others, but only if perceived as relevant to self; over- or underestimate of own effect on others.
b. Intimacy: Relationships largely superficial and exist to serve self-esteem regulation; mutuality constrained by little genuine interest in others' experiences and predominance of a need for personal gain

B. Pathological personality traits in the following domain:

Antagonism, characterized by:
a. Grandiosity: Feelings of entitlement, either overt or covert; self-centeredness; firmly holding to the belief that one is better than others; condescending toward others.
b. Attention seeking: Excessive attempts to attract and be the focus of the attention of others; admiration seeking.

C. The impairments in personality functioning and the individual's personality trait expression are relatively stable across time and consistent across situations.

D. The impairments in personality functioning and the individual's personality trait expression are not better understood as normative for the individual's developmental stage or socio-cultural environment.

E. The impairments in personality functioning and the individual's personality trait expression are not solely due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, medication) or a general medical condition (e.g., severe head trauma).

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Eonwe posted:

man...fuckin archeage

I never played Archeage, but this thread made me curious so I googled "Archeage goons" and got a rebbit thread with some amazing quotes:

quote:

Goon squad is literally worse than Justin Bieber

quote:

They are literal cancer lmao

quote:

So it's a guild on various servers or just groups of bellends?

quote:

I don't understand the joys of just being a outright loving oval office like them...


It sounds amazing.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
i do not remember!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

Bait and Swatch posted:

I don't think any of us have the creative brilliance to be pgabz, he is the unicorn of this thread

:smith: for myself

:unsmith: for pgabz

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

I'm pretty sure they have committed to a ship that is something like 4x the size of the javelin.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:



Yeah that looks like a workload that will be done in a few years.

Someone should do this with cash in the style of XKCDs money chart

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Beet Wagon posted:

I never played Archeage, but this thread made me curious so I googled "Archeage goons" and got a rebbit thread with some amazing quotes:






It sounds amazing.

remind me tonight and I will regale you with some Archeage stories

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009


"I do lots of typing on a computer typey typey typey doing lots of code and adding features to cryengine just like this typey typey typey the ex-crytech developers tell me they are really impressed by my programming typey type type"

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005

Mirificus posted:

Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD)

Symptoms of this disorder, as defined by the DSM-5, include:

A. Significant impairments in personality functioning manifested by:

1. Impairments in self functioning (a or b):
a. Identity: Excessive reference to others for self-definition and self-esteem regulation; exaggerated self-appraisal may be inflated or deflated, or vacillate between extremes; emotional regulation mirrors fluctuations in self-esteem.
b. Self-direction: Goal-setting is based on gaining approval from others; personal standards are unreasonably high in order to see oneself as exceptional, or too low based on a sense of entitlement; often unaware of own motivations.
AND
2. Impairments in interpersonal functioning (a or b):
a. Empathy: Impaired ability to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others; excessively attuned to reactions of others, but only if perceived as relevant to self; over- or underestimate of own effect on others.
b. Intimacy: Relationships largely superficial and exist to serve self-esteem regulation; mutuality constrained by little genuine interest in others' experiences and predominance of a need for personal gain

B. Pathological personality traits in the following domain:

Antagonism, characterized by:
a. Grandiosity: Feelings of entitlement, either overt or covert; self-centeredness; firmly holding to the belief that one is better than others; condescending toward others.
b. Attention seeking: Excessive attempts to attract and be the focus of the attention of others; admiration seeking.

C. The impairments in personality functioning and the individual's personality trait expression are relatively stable across time and consistent across situations.

D. The impairments in personality functioning and the individual's personality trait expression are not better understood as normative for the individual's developmental stage or socio-cultural environment.

E. The impairments in personality functioning and the individual's personality trait expression are not solely due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, medication) or a general medical condition (e.g., severe head trauma).

We are not reddit.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
someone here should start a Discord server for Games goons

A Neurotic Jew
Feb 17, 2012

by exmarx
The Narcissistic Personality Disorder should be the name of the next ship that goes on sale imo.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

MMD3 posted:

So not counting variants, that's something like 11 play-ready ships and 26 or so ships that are still in production?

Have they ever stated how many ships they are planning on launching the game with at any point?

So 11 ships and the game has been in development since 2011. To out that into perspective Warthunder has been in development since 2009 and has over 500 playable aircraft with full atmospheric flight models and locational damage systems. Plus over 200 playable ground vehicles as well. Also Warthunder is free to play and the most expensive premium plane is like $20 or something.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

So is someone going to do an impartial threat assessment on the sandibus now?

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Mirificus posted:

Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD)

I'm just lucky my head trauma and heroin use mask it.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

So 11 ships and the game has been in development since 2011. To out that into perspective Warthunder has been in development since 2009 and has over 500 playable aircraft with full atmospheric flight models and locational damage systems. Plus over 200 playable ground vehicles as well. Also Warthunder is free to play and the most expensive premium plane is like $20 or something.

Yeah but... do they have toilets?

Ffycchi
Jun 4, 2014

Sigh...challenge accepted...shitty photoshop incoming.

Beet Wagon posted:

I never played Archeage, but this thread made me curious so I googled "Archeage goons" and got a rebbit thread with some amazing quotes:






It sounds amazing.

It was quite possibly the only time I was glad I wasnt in a goon guild, it failed REALLY hard from what I heard on another server(was at a work meeting in Seoul during launch, when I got back I ended up on lucian due to aranzeb being full)

That being said I ended up running a guild that owned my entire server till I had a meltdown from all the drama and left the game partially because trion, partially because having to deal with 13 20 year old guild leaders

Dapper Dan
Dec 16, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

aleksendr posted:

I'm not sure if memory serve well but "high level officer goes rogue deep into enemy territory" was also the (sadly only partially resolved) B-plot of Freespace 2

My creative writing teacher in college used to say that if you can only describe your story by compairing it to other major works in the field you need to do more research and / or pour more work in your legend.

His description is a tactic that movie people use to quickly describe a movie that they are pitching to an executive who has like thirty seconds to listen to them. It is oft parodied and would go something like this: "Star Citizen is like the culture of Starship Troopers combined with the horrors of war ala Apocalypse Now blended with the plot of The Eagle of the Ninth with shades of Battlestar Galactica"

Chris Roberts doesn't actually think he is making a video game and is using movie principles and trying to apply them to game design, which is one of the reasons why this thing is so hosed from head to toe.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

So 11 ships and the game has been in development since 2011. To out that into perspective Warthunder has been in development since 2009 and has over 500 playable aircraft with full atmospheric flight models and locational damage systems. Plus over 200 playable ground vehicles as well. Also Warthunder is free to play and the most expensive premium plane is like $20 or something.

yes but are you as

:smug: emotionally invested :smug:

in warthunder as you are in star citizen

Bait and Swatch
Sep 5, 2012

Join me, Comrades
In the Star Citizen D&D thread

Eonwe posted:

remind me tonight and I will regale you with some Archeage stories

I'm sure the threads are still in the gas chamber even

My favorite archeage memory is that one goon calmly posting a legit question about game mechanics while the one guy was in the middle of an hours long meltdown posting every picture comparable to goatse known to exist.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

A Neurotic Jew posted:

I can't believe she literally wrote that she does the work of 6 people. I mean it's one thing to just say it off the cuff...but to write it out and send it to someone and think "this is good, this is what I want to convey".

:yikes:
I can't believe she downgraded that from 10.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


Can someone do a threat assessment of Sandi Gardner?

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

jaegerx posted:

Can someone do a threat assessment of Sandi Gardner?

that joke is forty pages old grampaw

do your reading

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
caterpillar looking p good though

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

caterpillar looking p good though


CIG is branching out into modern cubism.

I like...

grimcreaper
Jan 7, 2012

So.. im skimming over pages... wtf happened for the thread to get over 800 posts in less than 12 hours? it hasnt been this busy since.. well, the last time Croberts did something stupid.

Did the game get released or something? Can i be a citizen now?!

Bootcha
Nov 13, 2012

Truly, the pinnacle of goaltending
Grimey Drawer

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Just think, you could still be financially invested in this!

If ever a good decision was made, it was exiting.

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

Omi-Polari posted:

CIG is branching out into modern cubism.

I like...

Bringing back the Borg aesthetic. I could get behind that.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
Woah nearly 2000th page :toot: Keep going guys!

woops no I'm an idiot



I give us two weeks :toot:

Brazilianpeanutwar fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Jan 5, 2016

Ash1138
Sep 29, 2001

Get up, chief. We're just gettin' started.

grimcreaper posted:

So.. im skimming over pages... wtf happened for the thread to get over 800 posts in less than 12 hours? it hasnt been this busy since.. well, the last time Croberts did something stupid.

Did the game get released or something? Can i be a citizen now?!
Check Beer's post history during that time for a link to the dark heart of CIG's madness.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



grimcreaper posted:

So.. im skimming over pages... wtf happened for the thread to get over 800 posts in less than 12 hours? it hasnt been this busy since.. well, the last time Croberts did something stupid.

Did the game get released or something? Can i be a citizen now?!

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

In case anyone was wondering, you can indeed get banned for what you post off-site.

I'd like to extend my thanks to Sandi and Patrick for being so forthright and polite with me. At first I was a little worried I wouldn't see anything beyond an automated response, but then an anonymous CS rep helped me out, followed by Sandi herself, and then when Sandi couldn't provide the necessary information Patrick was kind enough to clarify.

I hope you guys find the attached conversation as enlightening as I did.

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SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Chris is really good at this

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