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notwithoutmyanus posted:Binge on is short for : "we've forcefully lowered quality on everything you do, enjoy!". You know that the entire point of Binge On is so that video doesn't count toward your data limit, right? Plenty of people stream shows to their phones, and this lets them do it without hitting their LTE cap or having to buy a more expensive plan. How is that zero consumer benefit?
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Yeah, I used to have a 1GB data plan and would try to stay under it. This past December I used 6GB under my 3GB plan. The benefit to me is that I'm doing a lot more stuff on my phone that I couldn't do before.
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Jan 2, 2016 16:02
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The two largest data usages, music and video, essentially being free to use seems like a pretty big consumer benefit to me.
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Jan 2, 2016 17:53
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Yeah honestly the issue is so overblown anymore the rants and ravings from folks are getting old. Don't like it? Turn it off. Yes, opt in would have been *better* for some but others can't manage to do much of anything on their own ... so you have this. Otherwise, it lowers quality to 480p and you stream as much as you want on the services that have been identified. 480p on these small screens means diddly to me, just happy my wife can stream netflix all she wants now.
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I'm on the $50 unlimited text/talk with 3 gigs of data plan, comes out to ~$97 a month with Grandfather'd original JUMP! and my G4. I also was given a promotional 2 years of unlimited data for some reason (probably due to not using a lot of data monthly). Was in the store and the rep was saying that the new Jump on Demand was better than my Granfathered Jump 1. I've done some research into it, and a lot of people seem to be pissed that you never own the phone. Isn't Jump on Demand the same thing as Jump 1? Just has tax spread out throughout the payments and the ability to jump 3 times in 1 year? Am I wrong on the following: JUMP 1 - $10 (changing to $12 a month in March. Kind of bullshit if you ask me, considering when I got it I was told "this is only $10" not "We may re-evaluate the CONTRACT you signed later and change the price"). a month, includes insurance Jump 2 times in 1 year. Pay tax up front. 24 payments for EIP. Can Jump to a lovely phone at any time, pay it off and be "out of the contract" JUMP on Demand - No monthly cost. No insurance. Jump 3 times in 1 year, pay tax on the monthly payments, 18 payments for EIP. Can only Jump to specific phones, mostly flagships. I'm trying to determine if it's better to stay on JUMP 1 or go to JoD. If I went to JoD I'd likely not get insurance, as I don't do iPhones and it appears that screen replacements for Samsungs/HTC/LG are ~ $40-50, if that's what happens to it. I've never broken/dropped in water/gotten a phone stolen in 15 years of owning a cell phone, so I think I might be ok.
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To Vex a Stranger posted:JUMP 1 - $10 (changing to $12 a month in March. Kind of bullshit if you ask me, considering when I got it I was told "this is only $10" not "We may re-evaluate the CONTRACT you signed later and change the price"). So, I am kind of genuinely upset by this. Considering I pay more per month on my Galaxy S6 than someone who signs up now for JOD. Is there any benefit for being on the old Jump compared to JOD (other than insurance included)?
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Jan 4, 2016 15:09
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Long Francesco posted:The two largest data usages, music and video, essentially being free to use seems like a pretty big consumer benefit to me. Yup. You can look at it as a different form of every carrier's "unlimited*" where instead of having an arbitrary cap set on you by the carrier (i.e. 23GB) you choose your plan based on the cap you want. With the added bonus of there's not really much way you can argue that this "unlimited" should also include your torrented linux ISOs on your tethered home network.
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mAlfunkti0n posted:Otherwise, it lowers quality to 480p and you stream as much as you want on the services that have been identified. 480p on these small screens means diddly to me, just happy my wife can stream netflix all she wants now. According to the EFF, Binge On is just a bandwidth throttle for any and all video (plus not counting approved services against your data cap). I'm still figuring out how much this bothers me, if at all. But it doesn't seem Net Neutral.
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Doesn't bother me at all since you can turn it off.
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bartkusa posted:According to the EFF, Binge On is just a bandwidth throttle for any and all video (plus not counting approved services against your data cap). Yeah saw that article as well. Folks over at Reddit are obviously going nuts because this is obviously the same as ISIS murdering their entire family. As far as net neutrality is concerned, I can't see it being an issue because there is a broad sweeping throttle of all video services and any service can "benefit" from it and become a partner. Also, users being able to disable binge on (and simply at that) is also another thing against the idea. It doesn't bother me one bit, in fact I rarely ever want HD content from YT or Netflix on my phone because I won't notice the improved quality, but sure will notice it chewing up my data.
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SeANMcBAY posted:Doesn't bother me at all since you can turn it off. This is the key. You pay for n GB and you get n GB of service-agnostic data. If he price for n GB was wildly higher than the other carriers then people complaining might be a little more reasonable as there could be an argument that the neutral data had a price penalty. But it's not.
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Does anyone know if music streamed via Android Auto using Spotify counts towards your data cap? I got a new car recently with it and my data usage has soared to the point that I hit my cap for the first time. In my old car I streamed just as much using Spotify, but just using Spotify directly rather than Android Auto.
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SeANMcBAY posted:Doesn't bother me at all since you can turn it off. Yeah, but most customers are tech illiterate and won't ever know how to do that. Not saying you don't have a point, but that's the flip side.
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Dr. Mantis Toboggan posted:Does anyone know if music streamed via Android Auto using Spotify counts towards your data cap? I got a new car recently with it and my data usage has soared to the point that I hit my cap for the first time. I was in the store the other day and they said that Spotify and Pandora are non-data users. They said that Amazon Music currently uses data, as does Google Music.
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mAlfunkti0n posted:Yeah saw that article as well. Folks over at Reddit are obviously going nuts because this is obviously the same as ISIS murdering their entire family. I think the argument the EFF is using is basically a slippery slope one. Once customers get used to certain services being delivered on a "zero tier", it's easy for people to accept the idea of other services being delivered on a "premium tier" which is pretty much the worst case scenario. While I agree with that, I also think T-Mobile is simply doing this as a value-added service to compete with the Big Two, which is great for consumers. It should be illegal, but the EFF needs to have that fight with the FCC and FTC, not T-Mobile.
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Is binge on enabled or disabled for me? I went to add/change services, and it has the option to add "binge on disabled". So that would mean that it is currently enabled?
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To Vex a Stranger posted:I was in the store the other day and they said that Spotify and Pandora are non-data users. They said that Amazon Music currently uses data, as does Google Music. Google Music doesn't use data. There's a list here: http://www.t-mobile.com/offer/music-freedom-list.html Note: ads on some of these services do count against data.
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"d[-.- posted:b" post="454603160"] Correct you have it enabled. If you add back Bingeon disabled it will turn it off.
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Burden posted:Correct you have it enabled. If you add back Bingeon disabled it will turn it off. Cool, thanks.
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Burden posted:Correct you have it enabled. If you add back Bingeon disabled it will turn it off. This turned out to be really confusing.
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hiddenriverninja posted:This turned out to be really confusing. Yeah it's way more complicated then it needs to be.
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hiddenriverninja posted:This turned out to be really confusing. Isn't that exactly what T-Mobile wants? The fact that Binge On is enabled by default is no mistake. Throttling the most popular video services to 1.5mbit by default is a quick and easy way to increase the available bandwidth.
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John starting poo poo with the EFF. https://twitter.com/johnlegere/status/685201130427531264
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SeANMcBAY posted:John starting poo poo with the EFF. Oh christ. I just switched over and now I find out the CEO is a moron  incidentally, this is the best thing: https://twitter.com/mattl/status/685224731667087360/photo/1
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This just in, T-Mobile CEO does generic hip edgy thing.
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SeANMcBAY posted:John starting poo poo with the EFF. The best part about this link is some guy attaching his real name to his twitter handle "Sonikku_a"
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PRADA SLUT posted:This just in, T-Mobile CEO does generic hip edgy thing. How do you do, fellow kids?
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Dude could literally get out from under all this by saying "we made it opt out because most people will either like it or not notice, and it de-congests the network so everyone gets more speed." That second part is what he's running in circles trying not to say, which makes me think this has nothing to do with congestion at all and is a setup for a cynical cash grab down the line.
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How's T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling on branded Android handsets? My office is basically in a bunker which has been really horrible for communicating with my family (who watch my child most days) while I'm there. I've been thinking about buying a LG G4 or Sony Z3 just to get Wi-Fi calling/texting, but my only experience with it was on a Windows Mobile phone I used briefly and it was unusable. Any thoughts?
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Works great on my Nexus 6 and (yes it's not Android) my wife's iPhone 6S. Honestly goes a really long way to covering the gaps TMo has.
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Just left tmo for Google fi, it was the least painful leaving of a carrier I have ever done... The guy on the phone was extremely nice, didn't push anything on me, had a sense of humor, I'm actually getting paid by tmo for leaving because I was paid up on my bill. If I end up using too much data on Google fi, I'll probably go back, bar none best customer service of any cell provider.
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BeastOfExmoor posted:How's T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling on branded Android handsets? My office is basically in a bunker which has been really horrible for communicating with my family (who watch my child most days) while I'm there. I've been thinking about buying a LG G4 or Sony Z3 just to get Wi-Fi calling/texting, but my only experience with it was on a Windows Mobile phone I used briefly and it was unusable. Any thoughts? Some networks block the ports necessary for wifi calling to work. I would find out what those ports are and maybe contact your IT department and explain the situation and have them tell you if those ports are blocked or not.
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My phone hasn't been able to send or receive MMS for at least a week now (Android 6, Moto X 2014, Google Messenger app, T-Mobile Nerd Plan). How to can I check if it's T-Mobile or my phone? I get a message saying "New MMS message to download. Touch to download." Tapping on it it says "downloading", but never comes through. When sending, it tries to send, retries a few times, and fails. Super annoying in that I can't send regular SMS while it's doing this. EDIT: just tried using Hangouts to send and it's going the same thing, so I don't think it's the app, at least. Uthor fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jan 21, 2016 |
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Uthor posted:My phone hasn't been able to send or receive MMS for at least a week now (Android 6, Moto X 2014, Google Messenger app, T-Mobile Nerd Plan). How to can I check if it's T-Mobile or my phone? On T-Mobile and having the same problem with receiving. Took a couple DAYS to finally get the message.
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We have two phones on T-Mobile prepaid plans, each on a $40 for 1gb 4G data plan. I wanted to switch to the family plan where the first line is $50 for 2gb 4G data, and the second line is $30 for 2gb also , but I couldn't get any straight answers from the online chat or phone reps and was just getting the runaround and endless transfer loop. Is this even possible, while keeping the same SIMs and numbers? Is the family plan prepaid or postpaid? edit: I was also considering is switching to MetroPCS for their family plan where each line has 1gb of data for $25/month per line. But the store wanted to charge $25 for new SIM cards, which seems ridiculous. Any thoughts on MetroPCS?
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Woodsy Owl posted:We have two phones on T-Mobile prepaid plans, each on a $40 for 1gb 4G data plan. If you use Twitter hit up their tmobileusa account. They are super helpful.
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topenga posted:On T-Mobile and having the same problem with receiving. Took a couple DAYS to finally get the message. Also on t-mo. Moto g. Haven't been able to send/receive MMS for weeks at least
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Woodsy Owl posted:We have two phones on T-Mobile prepaid plans, each on a $40 for 1gb 4G data plan. You can keep the same numbers but you will need new sims. You won't have to pay for sims if you go to a store. The store will be able to switch you pretty much instantly.
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Uthor posted:My phone hasn't been able to send or receive MMS for at least a week now (Android 6, Moto X 2014, Google Messenger app, T-Mobile Nerd Plan). How to can I check if it's T-Mobile or my phone? Try resetting your APN. If that doesn't work call tech support.
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