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My prediction about the fifth class being a wizard turned out to be correct.Vib Rib posted:In a surprise twist, the fifth class is wizards.
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You can stop and reverse the Avatar clock, but in order to put an end to it you need to beat the game.
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Jan 8, 2016 01:47
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Excelsiortothemax posted:You can stop and reverse the Avatar clock, but in order to put an end to it you need to beat the game. This is a Good Thing.
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Jan 8, 2016 01:50
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Excelsiortothemax posted:You can stop and reverse the Avatar clock, but in order to put an end to it you need to beat the game. Excellent, I like that.
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Jan 8, 2016 01:53
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Could somebody please link to the stream with jake?
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Jan 8, 2016 02:07
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I don't actually see how it's possible to succeed long term with Beagle's mods, even with intelligent positioning and movement. The enemy AI seems less exploitable than vanilla and has a whole shitload more early game tricks like psi zombies, mind control, and marking. The only times Beagle has done extremely well have been when the enemy has literally glitched and gotten stuck or he's gone on insane luck streaks.
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Jan 8, 2016 02:08
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Kanos posted:I don't actually see how it's possible to succeed long term with Beagle's mods, even with intelligent positioning and movement. The enemy AI seems less exploitable than vanilla and has a whole shitload more early game tricks like psi zombies, mind control, and marking. The only times Beagle has done extremely well have been when the enemy has literally glitched and gotten stuck or he's gone on insane luck streaks. I think Beagle knows this and will likely revert to a more insane Legendary run (sans long construction times because wtf...then again Beagle may leave those in) when the game actually comes out and he gets the full game. He's just doing this because he can only play the first 2 or so months again and again and he wants to face something a bit more brutal. As a side note, it amuses me how hilariously strong even basic ballistic guns are at tearing buildings apart. Apparently the magical ADVENT cities are made out of styrofoam.
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Jan 8, 2016 02:12
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Kanos posted:I don't actually see how it's possible to succeed long term with Beagle's mods, even with intelligent positioning and movement. The enemy AI seems less exploitable than vanilla and has a whole shitload more early game tricks like psi zombies, mind control, and marking. The only times Beagle has done extremely well have been when the enemy has literally glitched and gotten stuck or he's gone on insane luck streaks. The reason he gave for upping the difficulty was that he found himself snowballing mid-game. But yeah, early game with his tweaks is brutally unfair.
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Jan 8, 2016 02:14
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i really like the art in the loading screens
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fspades posted:The reason he gave for upping the difficulty was that he found himself snowballing mid-game. But yeah, early game with his tweaks is brutally unfair. I'm curious if this is because the preview build he has doesn't have more advanced aliens or ramping difficulty since it ends after three months, but can't tell when he keeps dying so fast 
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Jan 8, 2016 02:20
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I hope loosing at stopping the AVATAR project is alittle more then just a cinimatic. "Oh crap, they finished it, and now everything is on fire, commander what do we do?!" *AVENGER UNDER ATTACK* Que unwinnable base assault as whatever "final" alien they are working on strides forth in its perfected body and murders you all, like a reversal of the temple ship mission.
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Jan 8, 2016 02:21
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fspades posted:The reason he gave for upping the difficulty was that he found himself snowballing mid-game. But yeah, early game with his tweaks is brutally unfair. I can definitely see this happening for the same reason it would happen in EU/EW; a gun upgrade that allows you to one shot enemies means that it becomes way easier to stop the enemies from piling up, and pile ups are what have been killing Beagle most of the time.
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Jan 8, 2016 02:21
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DrManiac posted:Could somebody please link to the stream with jake? http://www.twitch.tv/miss_jamball/v/34097623 Watch from 5 hours 10 minutes onwards for the mission with Jake "Hot Load" Solomon and the incredible finish. For continuity's sake: the nerd with the glasses and the ponytail more or less singlehandedly saved the previous mission with some incredibly clutch moves, and has been dubbed Clutchmaster. He defends that title tooth and nail, too.
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Jan 8, 2016 02:22
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At least Beagle's showing how important it is to take out Commanders/Aliens ASAP.
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Jan 8, 2016 02:26
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Superstring posted:At least Beagle's showing how important it is to take out Commanders/Aliens ASAP. Yep. Being marked is brutal, and sectoids are really scary support units. Edit: the amount of units seems ok, but I think he needs to remove that health buff. He's getting rocked pretty hard.
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Jan 8, 2016 02:28
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The stuff he's doing to artificially increase the difficulty will apparently kick in normally in a longer game, because Dark Events do stuff like buff enemy health or increase the number of troops they drop in their drop ships. So in a regular, non-preview build of the game the stuff he did shouldn't be necessary.
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Jan 8, 2016 02:39
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You know, I really miss the Alien Activity noise from Xcom:EU. I think I might just mod it back in, the new one doesn't have the same ominous feeling.
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Speedball posted:The stuff he's doing to artificially increase the difficulty will apparently kick in normally in a longer game, because Dark Events do stuff like buff enemy health or increase the number of troops they drop in their drop ships. So in a regular, non-preview build of the game the stuff he did shouldn't be necessary. Notably, I find the most interesting change from previous previews is that dark events seem to give time limited upgrades now. Whenas before when I saw them they were worded as if it would be a permanent increase. Of course, this is good considering one of the dark events is a faceless in every mission 
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64bitrobot posted:Notably, I find the most interesting change from previous previews is that dark events seem to give time limited upgrades now. Whenas before when I saw them they were worded as if it would be a permanent increase. Of course, this is good considering one of the dark events is a faceless in every mission I think the flip of that is, there are/will be more dark events per cycle and you can only stop one. And honestly, thats probably better to keeping each campaign fresh. "Oh whats happening this month in ADVENT news? Faceless, Health, Damage and greater recruitment costs? Oh dear."
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Jan 8, 2016 02:52
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Blisster posted:Yep. Being marked is brutal, and sectoids are really scary support units. No kidding. And Faceless are "OH GOD WHY" things to face. No clue about the Vipers since the only one we've seen ate a grenade before falling three floors.  Sectoids seem to be sort of a "slow burn" kind of danger. The first one or two turns they're active isn't so bad, but if you keep them up too long they're suddenly controlling 2-3 mind controlled dudes, one of them being your dude the rest being corpses (which might be your dude).
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64bitrobot posted:Notably, I find the most interesting change from previous previews is that dark events seem to give time limited upgrades now. Whenas before when I saw them they were worded as if it would be a permanent increase. Of course, this is good considering one of the dark events is a faceless in every mission Looks like you'll have to adapt your tactics to match, then. Every ADVENT gets venom rounds, make sure you have anti-poison capabilities.
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Alkydere posted:Sectoids seem to be sort of a "slow burn" kind of danger. The first one or two turns they're active isn't so bad, but if you keep them up too long they're suddenly controlling 2-3 mind controlled dudes, one of them being your dude the rest being corpses (which might be your dude). They also love to bolt the gently caress out of sight when in danger, and go running to fetch more pods.
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Jan 8, 2016 02:56
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Thyrork posted:I think the flip of that is, there are/will be more dark events per cycle and you can only stop one. I think it's still the same. Every preview I've seen has shown three and they've been sayin for a long time you're only going to be able to stop one.
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Jan 8, 2016 02:57
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God, watching Beagle's stream, and the music is absolutely fantastic 
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Internet Kraken posted:You know, I really miss the Alien Activity noise from Xcom:EU. I think I might just mod it back in, the new one doesn't have the same ominous feeling. That's how I think I'll feel about a lot of the sounds and UI elements.
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HenryEx posted:They also love to bolt the gently caress out of sight when in danger, and go running to fetch more pods. Yeah, I noticed that too. Honestly I feel that I might be a tiny bit more proactive shooting the fuckers than Beagle is. Sure, the trooper will shoot you now, but the Pectoid's gonna be a real pain in the rear end if you let him live. Also, loving the randomized maps. XCOM team did a wonder with the procedurally generated maps. I see little bits here and there that I'm starting to recognize, which is fine since there's only so much drive-space for assets, but the whole map feels new every time. Also, with so many people smoking cigars/wearing shades I want to create an entire roster with people wearing nothing but thick glasses for a "revenge of the nerds" game.
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Annnnd Beagle is gonna revert things back to Vanilla. I think that may be for the best.
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Jan 8, 2016 03:17
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Beagle sounds salty about having to go down to vanilla
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Internet Kraken posted:Beagle sounds salty about having to go down to vanilla Still max difficultly?
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Robzilla posted:God, watching Beagle's stream, and the music is absolutely fantastic The one combat song mixes three of EU's combat tracks together, it's great.
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I love how it seems like the design documents was just a bullet list of ways to gently caress up common EW strategies. "Oh you like to play slow and careful do you? timed mission" "Sectoids aren't worth your time? mega buff" "You think you can just ignore civilians and just mob up the aliens as fast as possible?  "[e] Wow, this is coming out in almost exactly 4 weeks. I thought it was coming out the 16 for some reason. DrManiac fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Jan 8, 2016 03:45
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Haven't had a good burger in years! 
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Jan 8, 2016 03:56
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At what point in this 9 hour stream did Beagle fall for the Faceless trap?
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Jan 8, 2016 03:57
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I hate to miss part of it but, like, I already watched it for 4 straight hours and I had poo poo I was supposed to do today.
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godDAMN this game looks cool
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Jan 8, 2016 04:06
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Vib Rib posted:At what point in this 9 hour stream did Beagle fall for the Faceless trap? I forget but if you scroll around it was his first Terror mission, with ashes all over the air. Stocks that give +Damage even if you miss seem like a godsend. Even if the RNG fucks you, you gently caress it right back! Speedball fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Vib Rib posted:At what point in this 9 hour stream did Beagle fall for the Faceless trap? It was the mission with Revolver Ocelot and the ashes in the air and everything burning. Scroll through, should be somewhere in the first 4 hours.
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Rifle stock upgrade: +1 damage to all attacks, even misses. Yes, as Beagle-stream showed, that means you're guaranteed to nick the enemy on misses. Holy poo poo I want a hundred of those.
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Alkydere posted:Rifle stock upgrade: +1 damage to all attacks, even misses. Yes, as Beagle-stream showed, that means you're guaranteed to nick the enemy on misses. I loving LOVE that. If the RNG fucks you, you gently caress it right back! Stocks seem like a nice anti-bullshit countermeasure.
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