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jivjov posted:I can't get a read on the tone of this show...it bounces between high fantasy and snappy tween dialog. wormil posted:I can see the thread will be a shitfest which is a shame. For an MTV show based on Shannara, this blew away my expectations. This forum is kind of strange with the large %age of tv viewers who take perverse pleasure in watching a show they don't like, week after week, just so they can come online and whine about it.
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Binary Logic posted:That, and the disparity in acting between the veterans and the young people, can be jarring at times. But it's still an entertaining show overall and will likely get better as the writers and actors get more familiar and comfortable with their roles. I'm putting a lot of this on the writers. Maybe I'm just holding to my own expectations too much...but I was really jarred by the phrase "knocked up" appearing in this fantasy drama.
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Choadmaster posted:And somewhere along the way the elves raided a third-rate Panem thrift store. lol
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Buller posted:Waterfalls are really loud and that one was falling from a huge ledge that was prolly pretty easy to predict from a distance, have you ever encountered a waterfall IRL? This would work a lot better if you could hear the waterfall in the background, which I don't think you could. I don't think you could even hear the surf from the ocean about 20 feet away. The geography is a little wonky since they show travel montages and different enough scenery that should indicated days of travel, and then undercut it with dialog that indicates short distances. The waterfall direction isn't really a big deal and is way less of an issue than the overall issue of geography that is rearing it's head.
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Jan 7, 2016 16:57
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I'm sad that I'm disappointed by this. I must have way over-hyped it in my mind cause so far it's pretty bad. Boring dialogue, over the top acting, and Xena the warrior princess set design. Pretty much what I should have been expecting I guess. I'll still watch it... I am a desperate fanboy man.
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Jan 7, 2016 19:33
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There I was, sitting in my couch watching this new series. Then motherfucking Crixus appears. Aww yiss. 
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Jan 7, 2016 21:35
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Finally put my finger on what was bugging me about the costuming. A lot of the elven clothes feel way too...real? Like, the outfits they wear to run the gauntlet right at the beginning of the first episode look like something you'd buy off the shelf at a clothing store at a mall. Slightly fancy T-Shirts. And Amberle is very obviously wearing a regular ol' 21st century bra under hers.
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Jan 8, 2016 01:32
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jivjov posted:Finally put my finger on what was bugging me about the costuming. A lot of the elven clothes feel way too...real? Like, the outfits they wear to run the gauntlet right at the beginning of the first episode look like something you'd buy off the shelf at a clothing store at a mall. Slightly fancy T-Shirts. And Amberle is very obviously wearing a regular ol' 21st century bra under hers. Blah blah post-apocalypse so their fashion can just be The Gap and khakis and poo poo. At least I'm sure that's how the costume department justifies it.
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Batham posted:There I was, sitting in my couch watching this new series. Then motherfucking Crixus appears. Aww yiss. poor Manu Bennett will never be able to equal the swoleness of season 1 Crixus
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Jan 8, 2016 02:23
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In a weird way I kinda like it. Yeah a good portion of it is probably laziness but it's still kinda cool to see a fantasy setting with a lot of normal clothes seeping in, like the beanies and the t-shirts the elves wore in the "run through the woods blind" test. I don't know if it's unique but it's at least something more than just a generic fantasy aesthetic. Also; I know this is a fantasy setting so wars between fantasy races are just kinda a thing but every time the elf king guy talked about the War of the Races it sounds like he's reminiscing on that time he ethnically cleansed the elf kingdom of whatever minorities they had  .
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Jan 8, 2016 02:41
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DrProsek posted:In a weird way I kinda like it. Yeah a good portion of it is probably laziness but it's still kinda cool to see a fantasy setting with a lot of normal clothes seeping in, like the beanies and the t-shirts the elves wore in the "run through the woods blind" test. I don't know if it's unique but it's at least something more than just a generic fantasy aesthetic. Rede über Ohrsraum schaffen in das Vier Ländereien.
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Jan 8, 2016 03:09
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I'd like this a hell of a lot more if it was just Allanon and Will running around. Manu Bennett can carry anything, and the kid playing Will is really surprisingly entertaining; everyone else is just disappointing. Even John Rhys-Davis was kind of a let down. I'm on board for at least the first six episodes, I think.
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Jan 8, 2016 03:34
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Surprised to see all the costume hate. I thought everything the elves were wearing at their weird party was pretty awesome.
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:Surprised to see all the costume hate. I thought everything the elves were wearing at their weird party was pretty awesome. Someone up thread mentioned a Hunger Games vibe, which I totally picked up on too. That stuff was fine; very visually distinct. It was the everyday wear that was on the bland side.
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Whalley posted:I'd like this a hell of a lot more if it was just Allanon and Will running around. Manu Bennett can carry anything, and the kid playing Will is really surprisingly entertaining; everyone else is just disappointing. Even John Rhys-Davis was kind of a let down. I'm on board for at least the first six episodes, I think. Yeah the actor for Will is the only good younger cast member with all his bumbling antics and mistakes. Also the part in which he lost the elfstones since he got easily manipulated by a hot chick. Another fun fact from a somewhat more recent movie is in The Big Short you can see Michael Burry who is portrayed by Christian Bale in film reading the Shannara books while at work. etalian fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Jan 8, 2016 04:36
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It's been so long since I read the book, even I was taken by surprise by him getting swindled. I honestly expected budding tween romance and instead I got a successful con ending with him passed out naked in a bathtub, only to be awakened by a scowling Manu Bennett....I'm suddenly having trouble coming up with a downside here.
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thrawn527 posted:I'm almost positive it's brought up in the first book, near the beginning when he gives the description of where dwarves came from I used as an example in the OP. But it's been a long time. I can't remember where in the book, I just remember thinking "wait, what, this is in the future?" and I was all dumbfounded. I want to say it was pretty far in, may be a book or two, but I'm guessing I was just a dumb kid when I was reading these and missed all the references for a few books. I do remember absolutely loving the poo poo out of the first book. When I saw Lord of the Rings I felt guilty for liking Sword so much. I had never read LotR... Philthy fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Jan 8, 2016 05:08
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I don't think it was overtly stated in the first two books. There were lots of hints and things said that suggested it. All I know is I knew it and I've only read the first two books so far, but I remember it being something that more dawned on me than was explicitly told to me. Either that, or I wasn't paying attention when it was mentioned. That's something that sort of disappointed me; all of the post-apocalyptic stuff was so overt. Honestly, none of that stuff would even be around thousands of years on. It could have been something interestingly teased at during the show instead of blowing their load on it in the opening fly-by.
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Jan 8, 2016 08:56
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PureRok posted:I don't think it was overtly stated in the first two books. It is overtly stated in the first book.
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Jan 8, 2016 09:50
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This looks like absolute poo poo.
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Jan 8, 2016 12:15
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DrProsek posted:Also; I know this is a fantasy setting so wars between fantasy races are just kinda a thing but every time the elf king guy talked about the War of the Races it sounds like he's reminiscing on that time he ethnically cleansed the elf kingdom of whatever minorities they had Yeah, I was talking about this show with a coworker yesterday, and instead of "the War of the Races" I accidentally said, "the race wars", after which I paused, as we had a bit of a weird moment.
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Jan 8, 2016 14:25
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Show will probably get much worse since the only thing that worked well chemistry wise were the scenes of hot gandalf and Wil.
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Jan 8, 2016 17:52
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Bloodyshinta1 posted:It is overtly stated in the first book. Which first book? https://www.goodreads.com/series/43574-shannara-chronological-order
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Jan 8, 2016 17:58
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Poor Dagah Mor, he thinks he's banging a hot titty demon but it's actually a HB1 monster.
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subpage posted:Which first book? The first one that came out, The Sword of Shannara. edit: Holy poo poo, Terry Brooks wrote a ton of Shannara books after I stopped paying attention. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Jan 8, 2016 19:09
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thrawn527 posted:The first one that came out, The Sword of Shannara. Yeah; there's like 9 different lines of books in the franchise, plus a bridge trilogy that explicitly connects his Word and Void series to Shannara.
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Lets go with the first shanara book published in 1977 since that's the topic of discussion.
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As someone who was familiar with Shannara in general but never read any of it, and given this is a show on MTV, I'm enjoying it a lot so far. Some of the acting isn't great, and for all I heard about the series ripping off LOTR it seems like the characters at least are from A New Hope, but I love the concept and the setting so far. Seeing all the old cities and everything reminds me of Life After People.
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This is really terrible.
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It's a classic Hero's Journey with the reluctant farm boy who has a great power he didn't know anything about being sent of a quest to save the world. Any number of other stories use the same beginnings to tell their tale.
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hollylolly posted:It's a classic Hero's Journey with the reluctant farm boy who has a great power he didn't know anything about being sent of a quest to save the world. Any number of other stories use the same beginnings to tell their tale. This changes nothing about the quality of the show being garbage.
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It's just very obviously a ripoff of LoTR and Star Wars. I'll still watch it because I guess I'm still 12-years-old deep down inside.
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Jan 9, 2016 08:04
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Good thing the rest of the episodes will be Manu Bennett locked away in the exciting elven politics castle
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Jan 9, 2016 08:06
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I didn't expect too much because it's on MTV but I gotta say, I am very impressed. There's movie-quality CG and landscapes, acceptable acting (anything above SyFy is good by me), and some actually funny scenes between Wil and Allanon. This feels like a classic JRPG in live-action form. The succubus demon transformation scene when she was introduced was pretty bonkers, too.
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Jan 9, 2016 14:56
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Can't say I enjoyed it. Between the tween snappy dialogue and aggressively mediocre acting (Can anybody emote in this thing? Anybody?...), Will looking like an old goon buddy of mine grew out his hair long (and dyed it), the completely preposterous amounts of makeup on the characters, the CGI BLOOM ON EVERYTHING, the entire world feels really sterile, and the show grates like my cheese grater on steroids. Which is a shame, because the setting is baller, and I generally enjoyed the Shannara books, even if the first one was a straight copy-paste from LOTR. I'll hold out till somebody goes and makes a Voyage of Jerle Shannara minisies or something.  :
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DrProsek posted:In a weird way I kinda like it. Yeah a good portion of it is probably laziness but it's still kinda cool to see a fantasy setting with a lot of normal clothes seeping in, like the beanies and the t-shirts the elves wore in the "run through the woods blind" test. I don't know if it's unique but it's at least something more than just a generic fantasy aesthetic. I'm glad that Wil stopped wearing that beanie because it made him look way too much like Jay: 
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etalian posted:Good thing the rest of the episodes wil bel Manu Bennett locked away in the exciting elven politics castle If it follows the book he should have plenty of action coming up in the later episodes.
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I feel good today, Allanon, we're gonna make some gold, then you know what we're going to do? We're gonna go to that party, we're gonna get some elf stones, and I'm gonna gently caress this gnome, I'll gently caress this gnome, I'll gently caress ANYTHING THAT MOVES!
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Jan 9, 2016 19:04
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Did anyone stare into the camera and say "So it begins..." Yet?
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Did anyone stare into the camera and say "So it begins..." Yet?
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