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well why not posted:Firefox: I have Classic Theme Restorer so my Firefox still looks like that:  Firefox 3 will always live on in our hearts. 
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well why not posted:I really love looking up old versions of software I see all the time. Check out Ableton : That reminds me of this old MS-DOS-based version of the Cakewalk MIDI sequencer that I remember being used with a Yamaha keyboard (one of the PSR models, I think) a million years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWGUrQsJ7_U
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well why not posted:I really love looking up old versions of software I see all the time. Check out Ableton :  How about some vintage Cubase, I managed to get a short midi loop going on a emulator once out of boredom.
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The Atari has some amazing and weird software for making music on it. It's kind of a shame all that esoteric stuff seems to have dropped out of Cubase et al and is now only available as someone's weird Max/MSP patch or something. http://tamw.atari-users.net has a bunch. Apparently you can still order Music Mouse for 15 bucks if you are running OS 9 or something. Edit: http://tamw.atari-users.net/m.htm  Now also known as Cycling '74's Max/MSP 
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BalloonFish posted:The house I spent most of my childhood in had an AGA exactly like the one in the picture
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well why not posted:Winamp ! Still using this skin actually, can't see why an audio player needs an "updated" visual appearance. It's got the basic stuff you need, and that's it. oh god it's happening to me isn't it
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Ramadu posted:What were the alternatives to DVD at the time? I lived through it and I don't even remember. Oh god I'm so old. V-CD was big in Asia, not sure if it was in North America.
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Poohat666 posted:V-CD was big in Asia, not sure if it was in North America. Not unless you were big into anime bootlegs. I had a friend who used to do VCD duping. Basically you'd get on IRC and contact him, then send a self addressed stamped envelope and a money order to his house and then he'd burn and label you sets of VCDs of fansubs you couldn't find in the US. Back when episodes of shows were 50+ megabytes each and most people only had 10 gig hard drives getting all your stuff on VCD was very viable. Especially if you were on dialup and transfer speeds were slooooow, you might spend all night downloading one episode of Gundam or whatever. They're STILL big in parts of Asia because they are so cheap. When I was in HK you'd see guys with street stalls full of VCD movies for sub $1 USD. Sure they are in lovely just barely above VHS quality but if you're poor and the alternative is buying a pirated DVD which usually costs two or three times as much you probably don't actually care that much. They were/are pretty big in Thailand as well for similar reasons. Hell we visited a small Thai village for a day or two because a friend of a friend lived there and we met a travelling VCD salesman who literally rode from town to town on his moped/rickshaw and sold VCDs at every stop before looping back to (I assume) Bangkok to refill from his supplier. He was pretty cavalier about it too which is kinda rare because Thailand has pretty strict anti-piracy law enforcement (Thai police are, uh, not very nice to say it nicely). But yeah it never really took off here because by the time we got things that could play VCDs they could also play DVDs and we're not really a nation that has a vast market of people who can't afford renting movies and we have good enough internet that if people wanted to pirate things they would just download them from limewire/kazaa/etc
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Here in Mexico, they were everywhere in the transition from VHS to DVD, as DVD players and movies were expensive, while there were VCD bootlegs sold at $3 or so.
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One of my favorite pieces of hardware aesthetically was Sony's Walkman MP3 player, the NW-A3000.  I got mine in purple, the clear plastic housing accrued dust on the inside that was impossible to remove and in the EU version you had to put in a series of button commands to get into test mode to unlock the volume limit.
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Over in the military history thread somebody mentioned that the US's E-3 Sentry airborne radar aircraft were upgraded from using data tapes to computers running tape emulators. So I ended up reading a bit about AEW stuff on wikipedia and found out that the Royal Air Force also tried to build a airborne radar in the 80s that had a computer which would crash every 2 hours, but it took 2 1/2 hours to load the mission data onto the computer. And the radar had trouble picking up airplanes that didn't have their IFF beacons turned on. And the system would randomly generate phantom contacts because the equipment was improperly grounded. And the radar used the airplane's fuel as a heatsink for cooling it meaning that once fuel levels dropped enough the radar would overheat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Aerospace_Nimrod_AEW3 And the airplane it was built on was a real piece of work too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Royal_Air_Force_Nimrod_crash quote:On 23 May 2008 the assistant deputy coroner for Oxfordshire, Andrew Walker, handed down a narrative ruling that it had "never been airworthy from the first time it was released to the service nearly 40 years ago". quote:Concerns about the safety of the Nimrod fleet have continued to surface since the loss of XV230. In April 2009 it was reported that the Defence Minister had "glossed over Nimrod safety fears". The Independent newspaper claimed that a report into the safety of Britain's ageing fleet of Nimrods, which a defence minister claimed did not reveal "any significant airworthiness issues", exposed almost 1,500 faults – 26 of which threatened the aircraft's safety. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Nimrod_MRA4 quote:In January 2011 it was reported by the Financial Times that when the decision was taken to scrap the aircraft, "[The MRA4] was still riddled with flaws.... Safety tests conducted [in 2010] found there were still 'several hundred design non-compliances' with the aircraft. It was unclear, for example, whether its bomb bay doors functioned properly, whether its landing gear worked and, most worryingly, whether its fuel pipe was safe." According to Air Forces Monthly magazine, "significant aerodynamic issues and associated flying control concerns in certain regimes of flight meant that it was grounded at the time of cancellation and may not have been signed over as safe by the Military Aviation Authority."
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Looks like Kodak is bring back Super 8.
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VCDs were a thing in Greece for a while, I remember newspapers giving them away before they switched to DVDs for that purpose. I also remember double-sided DVDs, but I don't know if they were actually bad, or if it was just me.Megabound posted:One of my favorite pieces of hardware aesthetically was Sony's Walkman MP3 player, the NW-A3000. I had a teal NW-A1000 and drat was it all over the place. Loved it to bits while playing, I think the included headphones had a volume thingy which was very nice, but the software for it was the absolute worst thing. SonicStage, not even once. I think I still have the little 6GB HDD it had. A friend also had another Sony MP3 player, with touch-sensitive buttons, but not an actual touchscreen. They were little squares, arranged in a 5x5 grid. That was so weird, but I can't find it. Not sure if it was a Walkman or not, though.
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Serperoth posted:VCDs were a thing in Greece for a while, I remember newspapers giving them away before they switched to DVDs for that purpose. I also remember double-sided DVDs, but I don't know if they were actually bad, or if it was just me. They irritated the poo poo out of me. I remember a lot of my older DVDs were double sided. One side had 4:3 and the other 16:9. and one DVD I still have that is double sided is 'Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels' - every time I played it I got which side was the 16:9 wrong, was it the side the little label said the aspect or was it saying to have that side up? I would be firm and get it right first choice, but then doubt myself and get it wrong at the last second. To this day I see it on my shelf and don't know.
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Humphreys posted:They irritated the poo poo out of me. I remember a lot of my older DVDs were double sided. One side had 4:3 and the other 16:9. and one DVD I still have that is double sided is 'Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels' - every time I played it I got which side was the 16:9 wrong, was it the side the little label said the aspect or was it saying to have that side up? I would be firm and get it right first choice, but then doubt myself and get it wrong at the last second. To this day I see it on my shelf and don't know. I hated that too. It doesn't matter much to me anymore since I've long since ripped them onto my media server, but I used to take a sharpie (after double verifying which side I needed down) and label the 4:6 side so I'd know which side was the one I wanted (16:9).
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Woolie Wool posted:I have Classic Theme Restorer so my Firefox still looks like that: Literally using Opera 12 right now:  Unfortunately it starts to choke on some lovely JS-heavy sites. ryonguy posted:Still using this skin actually, can't see why an audio player needs an "updated" visual appearance. It's got the basic stuff you need, and that's it. Same, with a couple of plugins for file formats and keyboard shortcuts, it does exactly what I need and I haven't felt the need to touch it in years.
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Mister Kingdom posted:Looks like Kodak is bring back Super 8. Perfect for that hipster looking to blow a few hundo on equipment for his vines.
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davidspackage posted:Perfect for that hipster looking to blow a few hundo on equipment for his vines. Love to see their reaction when they find out there's only a few labs in the entire country that offer movie film processing, and they have to ship their film out and wait 6-8 weeks to get it back.
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Geoj posted:Love to see their reaction when they find out there's only a few labs in the entire country that offer movie film processing, and they have to ship their film out and wait 6-8 weeks to get it back. Kodak is going to be selling processing and digital transfers as a bundle with the film.
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I live in LA so I can just run it up to fotokem or pro8, problem solved!
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re: VCDs I only ever bought exactly one:  and because here in the US nobody had heard of the movie, I had to order it on VCD from Hong Kong. So back in '99 (?) I order it for a few bucks. It arrived two weeks later with: 1) Left audio channel dedicated to the original French 2) Right audio channel dedicated to Cantonese dubs 3) Permanent subtitles in English Good for them for finding ways to squeeze all that on a CD!
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mobby_6kl posted:Same, with a couple of plugins for file formats and keyboard shortcuts, it does exactly what I need and I haven't felt the need to touch it in years. On a 1080 monitor it's an awfully tiny click target unless you run it in janky 200% mode and it chokes on large song collections. Foobar easily handles an index of a terabyte of music. Biggest advantage for me of Winamp was something that I can't convince Foobar to offer as a direct control, you have to get into a stupid menu first for some unfathomable reason.:  http://www.surina.net/pacemaker/ I also used it as the default app to open mp3 files so my Foobar playlist would not be wiped immediately.
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Laserjet 4P posted:terabyte of music Do you use 3D models of record grooves for audio files?
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I bet he downloaded that one Touhou torrent that's something like 14 terabytes at this point.
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VCDs had a brief period of popularity amongst bootleg traders around 2001-2003, when broadband was ubiquitous enough that downloading a full disc was no big deal, but burning DVD was still prohibitively expensive. No generational loss like VHS, but half the people making them didn't know poo poo about quality encoding. So many Pink Floyd bootlegs ruined by blown-out clipped audio.
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atomicthumbs posted:Kodak is going to be selling processing and digital transfers as a bundle with the film. The last cartridge of Super 8 that my parents had to send out for development several years ago had to be shipped to Switzerland for processing.
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ryonguy posted:Do you use 3D models of record grooves for audio files?
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ryonguy posted:Do you use 3D models of record grooves for audio files? Eh, I have ~250GB and I keep my music in MP3 and M4A. I can easily see someone who likes lossless having a terabyte of music.
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SLOSifl posted:A few generations of 3D printers from now and I bet audiophiles will do this. Then you can print the original Actually, there's already people doing this.
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Can we get like, a 3D sculpture of a waveform that can be read and played by a laser scanner?
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Laserjet 4P posted:Biggest advantage for me of Winamp was something that I can't convince Foobar to offer as a direct control, you have to get into a stupid menu first for some unfathomable reason.: Oh hey did you finish Platform Masters yet? Can't wait to play it!
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Jerry Cotton posted:Oh hey did you finish Platform Masters yet? Can't wait to play it! Glad I wasn't the only one who thought of the Bubsy 3d theme played at 20% speed and looped for 60 hours.
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chitoryu12 posted:Can we get like, a 3D sculpture of a waveform that can be read and played by a laser scanner? Older theater projector setups actually do something like this. A stereo waveform is printed to the side of the visible frames on the film; the projector sees the waveform and adjusts the voltage to the speakers appropriately.
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chitoryu12 posted:Can we get like, a 3D sculpture of a waveform that can be read and played by a laser scanner? e: they built a custom electron microscope in that to digitize LPs. Talk about picking up the texture of the dust. My Lovely Horse has a new favorite as of 21:59 on Jan 12, 2016 |
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dpbjinc posted:Older theater projector setups actually do something like this. A stereo waveform is printed to the side of the visible frames on the film; the projector sees the waveform and adjusts the voltage to the speakers appropriately. And when the projector starts eating the film, the audience is treated to an oh-so-lovely POP POP POP POP at max volume because the machine is interpreting the light shining through the spoke holes as sound 
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Arivia posted:Eh, I have ~250GB and I keep my music in MP3 and M4A. I can easily see someone who likes lossless having a terabyte of music. This is the other thing I don't get about audiophiles, though less crazy than gold cables and wooden knobs, hundreds of thousands of songs and counting. When exactly are you going to listen to all of them and at what point does it turn from a hobby to digital hoarding?
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My Lovely Horse posted:I think that was a Fringe episode. So they ripped off the xfiles?
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:VCDs had a brief period of popularity amongst bootleg traders around 2001-2003, when broadband was ubiquitous enough that downloading a full disc was no big deal, but burning DVD was still prohibitively expensive. No generational loss like VHS, but half the people making them didn't know poo poo about quality encoding. So many Pink Floyd bootlegs ruined by blown-out clipped audio. I remember actually watching a bootleg version of the fellowship of the ring that was like barely 100mb and looked like complete rear end. Like worse than VHS. Kinda surprised we managed back then.
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ryonguy posted:This is the other thing I don't get about audiophiles, though less crazy than gold cables and wooden knobs, hundreds of thousands of songs and counting. When exactly are you going to listen to all of them and at what point does it turn from a hobby to digital hoarding? I think the tipping point is when you haven't listened to everything in your collection at least once.
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Zaphod42 posted:I remember actually watching a bootleg version of the fellowship of the ring that was like barely 100mb and looked like complete rear end. Like worse than VHS.  In the year 2000! I remember in the early 2000's, making Super VCD rips of DVDs. For those who don't know, VCDs were MPEG1 based and video quality wasn't that great. SVCDs were MPEG2 based and were about 2x the resolution, so the video quality was significantly better. You could rip most movies to fit on 2 SVCDs and still get decent quality. I remember the app that I used would automatically duplicate the last several seconds of the 1st disk on the start of the 2nd disk so you wouldn't accidentally miss anything at the disk change. The fun of trying to find which brand of DVD player had the best compatibility of VCDs and SVCDs. APEX and other cheap Asian brands seemed to work best.
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