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aleksendr posted:If lowtax is willing to give a part of the process to your legal fee i'm totally buying you an Avatar.  If it actually ends up in a court room I don't think the costs would be much more than what I gave CIG, but that would be cool.
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AP posted:Did you send them a letter before action by recorded post? Where any of your purchases after June 2014? No, I just emailed them and told them what I was going to do. I said I considered that my emails constituted pre-action protocol, and they responded and didn't disagree. All my purchases were under the old refund TOS.
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Derek smart Derek smart Derek smart
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wikidd posted:
this is the guy taking you to space court btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mhyO26bVVw
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Vitamin P posted:
I only have this jpeg, but it's smiling and I made it myself. Will it do? 
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wikidd posted:No, I just emailed them and told them what I was going to do. I said I considered that my emails constituted pre-action protocol, and they responded and didn't disagree. All my purchases were under the old refund TOS. If you send them a letter before action they'll fold and you'll get your money back, read how to follow the process correctly and put a bit of effort into the letter. You need to demonstrate that they hadn't fulfilled their end of the contract, although you'll probably win if they're really serious about going to court (I don't believe for a second they are), if you put some effort in, it's a more sure thing if any of your purchases were after June 2014 as the law changed. I don't believe you can proceed to small claims without a letter before action, maybe an email counts now, I dunno. Ring Citizen's advice, they'll help, but if they tell you to send a normal letter before the letter before action, don't bother as no point. AP fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Jan 13, 2016 |
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Derek smart please allow this man full access to legal for free, thanks
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A Neurotic Jew posted:this is the guy taking you to space court btw: That's one hardcore gamer dude
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Shitizens annoy me.
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Vitamin P posted:
also Bootcha posted:Itshappening.gif
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:That's one hardcore gamer dude his favourite movie is das boot (which he worked on), and favourite game is star citizen (which he worked on)
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A Neurotic Jew posted:this is the guy taking you to space court btw: I wonder how much smoked salmon and caviar he can buy for $200?
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Eonwe posted:You already are a goon I didn't choose the goon life, the goon life chose me!
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https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/going-to-court/going-to-court/taking-court-action/step-one-write-a-letter-before-action/ quote:If going to court is your only option, you must send the trader a formal letter before action (or letter before claim) to give them one last chance to settle the matter. You'll need to send a letter before action even if you have already written to the trader about the problem. You have to send a letter, they don't think you are serious as you can't be serious because you didn't send a letter..... Also you're in the EU, their TOS is absolutely and completely worthless, there's no point even reading it. AP fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Jan 13, 2016 |
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Just when i had this feeling we where hitting a crest before throttling back the first hint of lawsuit fill the thread, like bacon sizzling on a saturday morning.
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That looks like the most uncomfortable chair ever dang
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AP posted:If you send them a letter before action they'll fold and you'll get your money back, read how to follow the process correctly and put a bit of effort into the letter. You need to demonstrate that they hadn't fulfilled their end of the contract, although you'll probably win if they're really serious about going to court (I don't believe for a second they are), if you put some effort in, it's a more sure thing if any of your purchases were after June 2014 as the law changed. I think an email counts. I think the fact I emailed them and they acknowledged it means they can't now claim I didn't follow the correct pre-action protocol. I'm not going to bother with Citizens Advice; getting an appointment with them or calling them sounds like a pain. This small claims lark doesn't seem much more complicated than employment tribunals, which I know a fair bit about already.
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AP posted:https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/going-to-court/going-to-court/taking-court-action/step-one-write-a-letter-before-action/ The emails I sent them clearly indicated they were pre-action. CIG actually has a service email address for legal claims too; I think I got the pre-action stuff right.
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wikidd posted:I think an email counts. I think the fact I emailed them and they acknowledged it means they can't now claim I didn't follow the correct pre-action protocol. Please, please, please ,please take your time and do everything by the book and checking it twice. This is the most interesting thing in the thread along with Sandi Meltdown, Bootcha great escape and uncle Derek rrants.
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if they are seriously going to bother with this great of a length to dispute a $200 refund, they must be financially not looking so crash hot. it's kind of terrifying and exhilarating to see the multiple-thousand-dollar backers lurking on the horizon. eventually they'll realise what they've bought into and the level of fury and indignation will be colossal
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wikidd posted:I think an email counts. I think the fact I emailed them and they acknowledged it means they can't now claim I didn't follow the correct pre-action protocol. Well maybe I dunno but good luck, if it's of any use to you, I'd make sure to include that they misrepresented the terms of the contract and the description of the goods has been inaccurate. For Misrepresentation & Sale of Goods. Also make sure to hit them for the filing fee plus interest, I think at 8%.
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aleksendr posted:Please, please, please ,please take your time and do everything by the book and checking it twice. This is the most interesting thing in the thread along with Sandi Meltdown, Bootcha great escape and uncle Derek rrants. OK, I'll try my best. I'm off to bed now though!
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wikidd posted:The emails I sent them clearly indicated they were pre-action. CIG actually has a service email address for legal claims too; I think I got the pre-action stuff right. Dude, no, with anything legal, get EVERYTHING as nailed down as you can. Otherwise they'll have an excuse not to reply and/or throw out your claim. Do whatever it takes to protect yourself.
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Feel free to photoshop this or use it anyway you want (if you want) : Gonna use this in a video. I would've pm'd you but you don't have messages.
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The Meat Dimension posted:Gonna use this in a video. I would've pm'd you but you don't have messages. By all means feel free to use it, no problem.
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We're finally getting space court. Since before CitCon in October, this has been the best thread in forums history. And there's so much more hilarity to come before they spit out the malformed lump that will be SQ 42. We may even get another bathroom door update!
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From a quick google, the reason you don't send a letter before action via email is that even if they reply and you print the reply, they can say they didn't receive it and say they didn't send the reply. You're then a bit hosed trying to prove they did. With a recorded letter, you have the royal mail tracking slip and proof of delivery. AP fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jan 13, 2016 |
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SPACE COURT! Well okay not really space court yet, but all this over $200? Cripes.
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Send the letter, get a refund.
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That's nice, you can just slide the poop bucket right under the chair and never have to get up.
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wikidd posted:About a billion pages ago I mentioned I was taking CIG to small claims court here in the UK to get my refund. I just got notice they are defending the claim(!!); some guy called Ortwin Freyermuth, who is a director of CIG, signed off on the action. An hour of that guy's time must be worth more than the money I gave them. A thread full of Derek Smart's are rooting for you. Good luck goon, let us know how it goes.
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I used to have a chair that looked just like this when you took the cushion off. It was basically a fouton that folded down into a twin bed. Well, that's my story.
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