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DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

I just hope it lets me actually enjoy the end game gear before I end the game.


[E] can't wait to see how hosed up the earth is after the end of Xcom 2. Come on firaxis lead in to apocalypse.

DrManiac fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Jan 14, 2016

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LightWarden
Mar 18, 2007

Lander county's safe as heaven,
despite all the strife and boilin',
Tin Star,
Oh how she's an icon of the eastern west,
But now the time has come to end our song,
of the Tin Star, the Tin Star!
The guy doing the class ability walkthroughs has now reached the specialist. Only Sharpshooter is left.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

One of their colonel class abilities is healing EVERYONE once. Wow. That could be very useful.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

LightWarden posted:

The guy doing the class ability walkthroughs has now reached the specialist. Only Sharpshooter is left.

Interestingly aim seems to have been flattened a hell of a lot since XCOM 1. Both max rank Operatives and Rangers had 80 aim while the Grenadier had 75. Psi guy wasn't max rank, but had 71 at rank 3 which tracks at 2 aim per level and probably puts them on the 80 path as well.

XCOM 1 had 75 for Heavies but then 89 for Assaults and 90 for Supports.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Zore posted:

Interestingly aim seems to have been flattened a hell of a lot since XCOM 1. Both max rank Operatives and Rangers had 80 aim while the Grenadier had 75. Psi guy wasn't max rank, but had 71 at rank 3 which tracks at 2 aim per level and probably puts them on the 80 path as well.

XCOM 1 had 75 for Heavies but then 89 for Assaults and 90 for Supports.

Don't read too much into the stats of those troops, they've been cheated to show off all abilities in a list at once.

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



So according to Jake having 2 psi soldiers would be very expensive and not common, stream still going: http://www.twitch.tv/firaxisgames

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Speedball posted:

One of their colonel class abilities is healing EVERYONE once. Wow. That could be very useful.

Firaxis seems to have learned to make each side of the tree equally awesome, forcing the player to make decisions. I've yet to see any real clear "this ability is clearly 100% better in all situation" skills...besides maybe the Grenadier's version of rapid fire that only fires twice if the first one hits. There's a lot of "this ability is better 60-70% of the time, but the other 30-40% the other ability will be better" mixed with a whole lot of incentive to build the class mostly one way or another.

Also, having the Gremlin do ranged heals is downright amazing. No more having to dash your Support through an overwatch to stop someone from bleeding out/dying from poison (or now burning). Now your Specialist tells Killroy to hover over and spray some healing mist.

Cosmic Afro
May 23, 2011

PantsBandit posted:

No. Someone just mentioned the "board game" aspect of xcom, which led me to look up if there was actually an xcom board game.

There is...I had to stop myself from ordering it...

I own it, it's pretty fun and hectic, I find. The way they integrated the app to play, direct and be both a thing you manage during the game is pretty fun. Some roles are more or less involved than others, but, eh! I say I had my money's worth. It's very Space Alert-y, if you know board games somewhat and the dice-risk mechanic makes things pretty interesting.

The only thing I can say against it is that all the information to play most of the game that is not set-up is on the app itself, which can be a bit cumbersome.

Cosmic Afro fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Jan 14, 2016

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Gonna make it my mission to field a full team of Magi in the end-game just because it's supposed to be hard to do.

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

Cythereal posted:

Also, there's some spoilers hidden behind early research and plot. The Commander has definite plot reasons to be important, and there's a reason he/she is sealed inside a suit in the cinematic (that conveniently obscures their face as well).

Well it (probably) blew up my halfhearted theory that you're playing as Skynet.

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

64bitrobot posted:

That was so painful to watch. Like, jesus. He might as well have been like "Why are all of my 50% shots missing?"

I like his voice and his energy but I can't watch NL play XCOM anymore. He seems like a really nice dude but it is excruciating to watch him make the same mistakes over and over, no matter how many times people try to tell him.

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox
Speaking of streamers, Dick Hammer just started doing a Brutal Ironman Long War campaign. He's actually pretty good so I've been enjoying leaving him on while I'm doing other stuff.

Backhand
Sep 25, 2008

Lotish posted:

There's a novel that covers it, but from what I understand, basically you were doing well (or did the best out of anyone that tried) and got the rug pulled from underneath you.

There also seems to be an element of figurehead-ed-ness going on; things were going at least somewhat well for Earth with you at the helm. Once you went down, poo poo got bad, fast. It lets the Resistance associate you with victory over the aliens, since you did better than anyone else against them.

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes

Soothing Vapors posted:

I like his voice and his energy but I can't watch NL play XCOM anymore. He seems like a really nice dude but it is excruciating to watch him make the same mistakes over and over, no matter how many times people try to tell him.

He tried a LW LP once... it went badly.

I've decided to try a final LW game before 2 comes out too. If I finish it, great, if I die it can be my cannon loss. I'm already disconcerted that Will loss from critical wounds is permanent and that damage doesn't stop Overwatch :sigh:

Darkrenown fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Jan 14, 2016

amanasleep
May 21, 2008

Darkrenown posted:

He tried a LW LP once... it went badly.

I've decided to try a final LW game befomre 2 comes out too. If I finish it, great, if I die it can be my cannon loss. I'm already disconcerted that Will loss from critical wounds if permanent and that damage doesn't stop Overwatch :sigh:

I have found that Dynamic War games at 0.5 are pretty solid now.

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes
^^^ Full game or bust!

LightWarden posted:

The guy doing the class ability walkthroughs has now reached the specialist. Only Sharpshooter is left.

I noticed in the Combat Protocol section he runs up and swords a Muton who does NOT counter-attack, I wonder what prevents it?

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
It's just a chance. (aka a GOTCHA trap for newbies.) We had this discussion when they teased the muton way back. :P

amanasleep
May 21, 2008

Darkrenown posted:

^^^ Full game or bust!

Dang, my full runs all took over a month.

64bitrobot
Apr 20, 2009

Likes to Lurk
Relatedly to ranger talk. Bladestorm looks loving amazing and while I can't point to specific videos, I've just been seeing it pop up all over the place as incredibly useful and probably game saving moments where the ranger just says 'Nope' and the enemy dies.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

64bitrobot posted:

Relatedly to ranger talk. Bladestorm looks loving amazing and while I can't point to specific videos, I've just been seeing it pop up all over the place as incredibly useful and probably game saving moments where the ranger just says 'Nope' and the enemy dies.
Yeah, definitely. Enemies in melee range look really dangerous, so getting a CCS melee shot on the enemies that REALLY need to die is handy. Plus, it works even if you get viper-grabbed too, apparently.

e: vvvvv I rarely customized my soldiers wholesale, but enjoyed tweaking them and very much appreciated LW's greater ability to visually differentiate them at baseline. I think my favorite part is going to be the attitudes: changing the attitude of a soldier who was the only survivor of a terrible mission to "twitchy", for instance.

Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Jan 14, 2016

busb
Mar 19, 2009

Thorgie
I think i must be the only person in the thread (or world maybe) that doesn't care at all about playing soldier barbies.
As long as the soldiers get generated in random ways to look different that's good enough for me!

Still v excited to play the game, and staying away from streams etc for now so most of it is fresh when i play for maximum xcom moments

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

busb posted:

I think i must be the only person in the thread (or world maybe) that doesn't care at all about playing soldier barbies.
As long as the soldiers get generated in random ways to look different that's good enough for me!

:hf:

I just want a randomize appearance button that I can mash a few times to see what random crap pops up.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
In the specialist video, Odd mentions that one way to improve the hack chance is using a Skulljack.
Well that shoots down our capture theory!

Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

Junpei posted:

In the specialist video, Odd mentions that one way to improve the hack chance is using a Skulljack.
Well that shoots down our capture theory!

You still capture them.

Their brains at least.

wuffles
Apr 10, 2004

Junpei posted:

In the specialist video, Odd mentions that one way to improve the hack chance is using a Skulljack.
Well that shoots down our capture theory!

Not really. It sounds like using it on robotic units will soften them up for a hack (after an upgrade probably), and you'll use the skulljack to capture biological units. Just like in EW, you can't capture robotic enemies but after an upgrade you could also use the ARC thrower to heal your robotic units or take control of drones.

-Dethstryk-
Oct 20, 2000
On the Firaxis stream today, Jake said something about how the game is all about an aggressive form of science that involves shooting first. I hope he doesn't get hired away just to do PR for other games.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!

wuffles posted:

Not really. It sounds like using it on robotic units will soften them up for a hack (after an upgrade probably), and you'll use the skulljack to capture biological units. Just like in EW, you can't capture robotic enemies but after an upgrade you could also use the ARC thrower to heal your robotic units or take control of drones.

Oh.
I thought it was use to increase a soldiers hacking stat, which is a thing which is a thing.

Colapops
Nov 21, 2007

dyzzy
Dec 22, 2009

argh

:eyepop:

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

I just realized that I'm going to be out of town on business when this game drops, and won't be back for two days. :argh:

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!

Lotish posted:

I just realized that I'm going to be out of town on business when this game drops, and won't be back for two days. :argh:

We have laptops.

Woodstock
Sep 28, 2005

:five:

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Long War Question: how long can I continue to be extremely aggressive before the game starts trying to punish me for it?

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

Grapplejack posted:

Long War Question: how long can I continue to be extremely aggressive before the game starts trying to punish me for it?

How thoroughly are you abusing the aliens' preference for shooting troopers with less defense?

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Zoran posted:

How thoroughly are you abusing the aliens' preference for shooting troopers with less defense?

It's come in handy. My medic basically has a target on his back all the time.

Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

no crying sectoid commander no vote

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

someone should compile every single one of these and the next iteration of the OP should have all of them

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

Grapplejack posted:

It's come in handy. My medic basically has a target on his back all the time.

Do it with someone who has Will to Survive and has naturally low defense. Make it a priority to stack WtS, Iron Skin, Reinforced Armor (-6 Def!), Psi Screen, and Fortiores Una (from an officer). Always put this trooper in low cover. Enjoy your total immunity to all non-leader enemies. You can have all of this by July.

By winter you can have Titan for 7.834 DR in low cover, which is absurd because DR has increasing returns—every additional point is better than the last.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Send your medic Specialist to scout around a corner, they use up their turns moving? Congrats, you get a free Overwatch!

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Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

PantsBandit posted:

The only reason they have an issue with :airquote: those people :airquote: is because they constantly insert their personal politics into their site. It's like, drat, just write about videogames you nerds!

I haven't followed Polygon lately, but I was under the impression the only problematic person on that website was Ben Kuchera. The rest write clickbait articles that fund the writing of actual good articles which they all share even responsibility for.

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