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leather fedora posted:There's that one monster that has Bleublanc's gimmick of turning you small (chibi) or fat (debu). It even comes with a unique status effect symbol, the meaning of which escapes me at the moment but I know it has something to do with being transformed. God dammit, that was material from well after I coughed out. I'm disappointed the XSEED crew didn't try to do more with it, because in a more right state of mind, I would have. Cake Attack posted:oh well Very little can stop the power of Man-Tsunderes (It also helps that Agate gets perhaps the most development out of anyone on the cast in SC) But yeah, us racking up the Reader Choice awards over at RPGFan (which is a pretty decently-trafficked, older site) was a nice surprise. And also reminded me just how much competition there was this year, good god. Cake Attack posted:i fixed it. if you want to see more, get the cool art books udon put out. featuring excellent translations such as So I still don't get where that even comes from. Unless my memory is failing me completely, Zane is part of the "Taito" school, which should mean something like "Great Authority". Right here is a typo on top of a mistranslation, but I still don't know where "Calm Dip Flow" even comes from - I don't recall seeing, or Robin mentioning, anything remotely like it. Zaggitz posted:This dude's name is Lazy(pronounced Wazy) Hemisphere, by the way. So unironically yes, they will own. Y'all don't even know the ways in which Wazy is the best yet. Someday, hopefully, you shall see.
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SpaceDrake posted:
Clam dip flow.
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OddObserver posted:Clam dip flow. Calm, typo'd to Clam.
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But Calm Dip Flow doesn't sound nearly as delicious, so we're gonna roll with Clam.
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SpaceDrake posted:So I still don't get where that even comes from. Unless my memory is failing me completely, Zane is part of the "Taito" school, which should mean something like "Great Authority". Right here is a typo on top of a mistranslation, but I still don't know where "Calm Dip Flow" even comes from - I don't recall seeing, or Robin mentioning, anything remotely like it. A quick check of the kanji that make it up (泰斗流) tells me that if you take it piecemeal, you can get something to the effect of "Calm Dip Flow". Everything after that is a typo. For this, you're required to ignore the meaning of 'Taito' and break it into its components, and misread 'school/style' as 'flow' when you're referring to a martial art. TL;DR: Bad translations.
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Still working through TitS SC (Chapter 3 atm). I saw earlier some discussion about Kloe being extremely useful; this is not a case of either/or with regards to Olivier, is it? Since leaving him out of the party is a non-starter for me at least. The impression I had going into SC was that arts weren't as useful this time around due to high-EP costs, but maybe that's more for mook battles and not bosses? I had been rolling with Zane since he didn't seem so bad with Action/Move quartz making up for his mobility deficiencies, but I suppose that might be risky for any boss that isn't all that weak to physical attacks.
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Nate RFB posted:Still working through TitS SC (Chapter 3 atm). I saw earlier some discussion about Kloe being extremely useful; this is not a case of either/or with regards to Olivier, is it? Since leaving him out of the party is a non-starter for me at least. The impression I had going into SC was that arts weren't as useful this time around due to high-EP costs, but maybe that's more for mook battles and not bosses? I had been rolling with Zane since he didn't seem so bad with Action/Move quartz making up for his mobility deficiencies, but I suppose that might be risky for any boss that isn't all that weak to physical attacks. I found Kloe more useful for her S-craft more than anything else but she's a beast of a caster with the right accessories. My goto party throughout the game was largely Estelle/Agate/Kloe and (minor spoiler)Joshua, depending on availability of course.
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Nah having kloe and Olivier or just Olivier is fine. Magic is still good, just not as dominant in the early game particularly. The balance changes probably affected characters like Estelle most who I mainly had cast in FC but I used as melee in SC. The pure casters are still good at what they do
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Man, with how magic has gotten progressively more "eh" as the series goes on, I hope that if we get Olivier again at some point he's a hybrid.
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Arts are pretty strong, they make up most of the damage I do to bosses other than from breaks, but the really big and expensive ones seem like a bad deal or at least very situational because they don't do much more damage than the lowest rank versions.
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Death Scream is great but most of the other top-tier arts in SC can be ignored, especially with Kloe.
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Really Pants posted:Death Scream is great but most of the other top-tier arts in SC can be ignored, especially with Kloe. I think I was using the 30EP water spell for lots and lots of single-target damage with her.
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I had Kloe using Blue Ascension a lot and eventually Cocytus. And occasionally Silver Thorn. Nate RFB posted:Still working through TitS SC (Chapter 3 atm). I saw earlier some discussion about Kloe being extremely useful; this is not a case of either/or with regards to Olivier, is it? Since leaving him out of the party is a non-starter for me at least. The impression I had going into SC was that arts weren't as useful this time around due to high-EP costs, but maybe that's more for mook battles and not bosses? I had been rolling with Zane since he didn't seem so bad with Action/Move quartz making up for his mobility deficiencies, but I suppose that might be risky for any boss that isn't all that weak to physical attacks. Yeah, the big problem is that the later arts have much higher costs and they ratcheted the power of EP Cut down a ton. Even so, when the plot allowed it, I had Kloe and Olivier in my party all game and they were fine.
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Some Numbers posted:I had Kloe using Blue Ascension a lot and eventually Cocytus. SC gave a major buff to physical attackers as well. Agate is practically game-breaking with his arts, and so long as he has a dedicated healer behind him, he can S-craft all day long.
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Can you do anything with the Super Stallion Medal or Relief Card?
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My party for most of SC was Estelle/Kloe/Olivier/Agate and the whole game was a cakewalk. Kloe and Olivier can keep everyone topped off with their crafts, can contribute damage with their arts, and Kloe has a really strong debuff. Estelle is the protagonist. Agate just hits dudes until they die. If you want a more offensive party I probably wouldn't take both, but they still wreck random encounters with Aerial so the only thing that really feels kind of slow is boss fights, and Agate can just start dropping s-crafts on those.
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I wonder: how many of you brought Kevin into your endgame parties in SC? He worked shockingly well as a support unit for me.
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are mueller and julia any good i was too committed to the party I had to slot in brand new people
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Slur posted:I wonder: how many of you brought Kevin into your endgame parties in SC? He worked shockingly well as a support unit for me. My endgame party was Estelle Joshua Olivier and Kevin.
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Zaggitz posted:My endgame party was Estelle Joshua Olivier and Kevin. Ahhh, Estelle's Harem Party.
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The problem with SC is that it has many good characters but you've got two slots that are locked to the protagonists so you can only bring 2 other people at a time. Cold Steel kinda solves that with the reserve slots but the characters are not as likable, so you always take the most broken ones.
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Death Priest posted:The problem with SC is that it has many good characters but you've got two slots that are locked to the protagonists so you can only bring 2 other people at a time. Fie and Laura are extremely like-able, and it just so happens they are both amazing for an endgame party.
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Zaggitz posted:Fie and Laura are extremely like-able, and it just so happens they are both amazing for an endgame party. Yeah I felt like adding "So you take Rean, Laura Fie and whoever you like for the 4th" but that felt like pushing my opinion too much.
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Death Priest posted:The problem with SC is that it has many good characters but you've got two slots that are locked to the protagonists so you can only bring 2 other people at a time. Still better than most JRPGs. I could take an NPC from Cold Steel (not like Towa or anything, that'd be OP) and put them in a Final Fantasy game and they'd still be top tier character.
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Supremezero posted:Ahhh, Estelle's Harem Party. that's only possible in 3rd where you can swap olivier for anelace
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Cake Attack posted:are mueller and julia any good i was too committed to the party I had to slot in brand new people Mueller's pretty decent. He's craft-y like Agate but drops some of Agate's blunt murderpower for more variety. His pull craft is good for positioning, for example. However, there's nothing standout he does (apart from Righteous Witness) that really makes you want to drop Agate for him. Julia has both decent caster power and physical strength. Pretty sure she outdoes Kevin in both, especially with the ability to wear the female-only ATS gear. Her crafts are kinda bad though, with only single-target Impede and 50 CP Earth Guard. I did manage to pick up Lost Mobius on her, along with Onyx Gem and Cast 2, so I just used her as a caster, with the ability to hit things as backup.
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Cake Attack posted:that's only possible in 3rd where you can swap olivier for anelace Are you implying that Olivier is not good enough for Estelle but Anelace is? Surely you jest.
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Slur posted:Are you implying that Olivier is not good enough for Estelle but Anelace is? Surely you jest. I think it's mostly because those are the three people who have hit on Estelle. Supremezero posted:Still better than most JRPGs. I could take an NPC from Cold Steel (not like Towa or anything, that'd be OP) and put them in a Final Fantasy game and they'd still be top tier character. Final Fantasy 16 starring Becky. Fully voiced, fully scottish.
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hosed up opinion but i like the cold steel party more than the sky party overall sky's best characters are better than cold steel's but sky's worst characters are pretty much empty voids. tita is cute and zane has like A cool moment but you can name about three personality traits between them and I still don't know whether or not Zane is actively hitting on women or just sincerely complimenting them. and mueller is hilarious when paired with olivier but outside of that he's a plank of wood, he's very much a character that only exists in a specific dynamic. and to be brutally honest whenever josh is dominating a scene i can actively feel my CP (care points) dropping like I just got ko'd. josh is a fine character when he's bouncing off 'stelle or 'jo but when he's just going on about his manpain i keep checking my watch. cold steel's party is just consistently good. Endorph fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Jan 16, 2016 |
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Endorph posted:hosed up opinion but i like the cold steel party more than the sky party overall I hope we see Zane in the Calvard arc, only so that he develops beyond his 2 dimensional personality.
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Slur posted:Are you implying that Olivier is not good enough for Estelle but Anelace is? Surely you jest. Olivier is clearly in Joshua's harem, not Estelle's. I can't believe I just typed that.
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Endorph posted:really it's less that he has a 2 dimensional personality and more that he gets no chance to show his personality. like, there's stuff there that could be fun and interesting, but he just... isn't around to show it. I can agree with that.
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So how many books are there in these games? I imagine 3rd due to its format has none, but I could be wrong. That sets us at 4 after FC SC and CS. How many new books in the crossbell games/cold steel 2?
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I went with Kevin for the final gauntlet mainly because his S-Craft is just so loving great for dealing with Loewe's bullshit if you want to beat him. ...Granted, I still wish I could've swapped Olivier in for him before the final boss. Outside of his use as my main support caster, he really felt kind of mediocre for almost everything else that was left in the end-game (though still nowhere near as bad as Tita and Josette would've been).
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Zaggitz posted:So how many books are there in these games? I imagine 3rd due to its format has none, but I could be wrong. That sets us at 4 after FC SC and CS. How many new books in the crossbell games/cold steel 2? AFAIK 3rd actually has most of the books from FC and SC hidden away in various capacities, plus one extra Liberl News that's about the end of SC. Otherwise it has nothing new, though. Saralene fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Jan 16, 2016 |
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OddObserver posted:Olivier is clearly in Joshua's harem, not Estelle's. Joshua doesn't get to have a Harem, Estelle would hit him with her very large stick.
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Well, I finally finished SC and it was a pretty solid ending, all told. It's a shame that a localization of 3rd still seems pretty unlikely from what I heard. I might pick up a JP copy but I really want to carry over my save...SpaceDrake posted:God dammit, that was material from well after I coughed out. I'm disappointed the XSEED crew didn't try to do more with it, because in a more right state of mind, I would have. leather fedora fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Jan 16, 2016 |
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