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titaniumone posted:I just want to drive cars casually on my PC when I feel bored, maybe using my keyboard, or maybe using an Xbox 360 controller. Should I get Project Cars? I see a ton of people on Steam raging about what a buggy mess it is and that has put me off of buying it. There is a new Trackmania coming out soon. http://store.steampowered.com/app/375900/
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pik_d posted:I do quite well in LFS and Dirt Rally with a pad. iRacing seemed impossible, but if you're spending that much on a game you may as well splurge for a wheel. Oh, I haven't tried Dirt Rally yet and assumed it wasn't good with a pad. I need to check it out!
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Jan 18, 2016 18:29
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Project Cars doesn't really seem like a game to play casually. I've used a gamepad with Assetto Corsa for a while now, works well for me out of box with no tweaking. Though those that raced with me yesterday might be inclined to say otherwise.  I really need to get a wheel.Codemasters games always have really nice gamepad support, definitely look into Dirt Rally and Grid Autosport. I used to play the old Dirt games with a keyboard. Jehde fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Jan 18, 2016 |
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GutBomb posted:Oh, I haven't tried Dirt Rally yet and assumed it wasn't good with a pad. I need to check it out! It's pretty good on a pad.
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Jan 18, 2016 18:30
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Jehde posted:Project Cars doesn't really seem like a game to play casually. Not sure what this means, as Pcars does just fine. Start it up, select either a race weekend and set it up custom however you want, or click the free practice button and hoon around whatever track you want. There's no unlocks to grind for, and you can play 10 minutes or 2 hours if you want. Fits my definition of "casual."
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Jan 18, 2016 18:35
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Any time I have tried to jump into it, I have not enjoyed it. YMMV. People have posted already that Pcars needs tweaking to play with a gamepad.
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Jan 18, 2016 18:50
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Most PC games do, almost nothing ships with ideal control setups and once you bring in analog inputs it gets even worse.
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Jan 18, 2016 18:52
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Jehde posted:Any time I have tried to jump into it, I have not enjoyed it. YMMV. People have posted already that Pcars needs tweaking to play with a gamepad. Yea and it takes like a few minutes. The biggest hurdle is the crummy default tuning setups. I'd say that anyone into flight or racing sims better get comfortable with the idea of poo poo not ever working properly right from the get go. The less said about something like Falcon BMS the better.
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Jan 18, 2016 18:55
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Codemasters does just fine.  Also previously noted that rear end Corsa does alright as well. I've only ever dabbled with LFS but that was fun with a gamepad too.
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Jehde posted:Codemasters does just fine. Codies has an awful lot of experience building games out to a console audience, which gives them a serious leg up on gamepad stuff.
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Jan 18, 2016 18:57
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Totally agree. Point is dude is trying to find a game to play casually, I think something from Codemasters fits the bill more than Pcars.
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Jehde posted:Totally agree. Point is dude is trying to find a game to play casually, I think something from Codemasters fits the bill more than Pcars. Nah. PCARS is more rewarding with how everything is unlocked right from the get go. GRID Autosport has a career progression/unlock system in place. Plus, PCARS just feels a ton better than GRID.
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I didn't think about grid autosport. That might also work too. It's way more of a game than any of the others that I mentioned though. Shift 2 is probably as close as you'll get to something like Forza or Gran Turismo. I guess Sega GT, but it's old (2002ish)
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holocaust bloopers posted:People, especially those in the sim community, tend to be extremely histrionic. Care to share?
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titaniumone posted:Care to share? steering sensitivity - 20-35 (play with it a bit. I like mine down to 20) deadzone - 3-5 gas and brake deadzone - 0 speed sensitivity - 70 control filtering - 60 controller mode 3 Works really well for me. And for tuning, the cars are set up to have the rear get super light when breaking or turning. Stiffen front springs and roll bars; soften rear and roll bars. You'll want the rears to be 200-300 lb softer than the fronts. Adjust the diffs too. I keep mine at 40/40 and adjust from there.
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pik_d posted:I do quite well in LFS and Dirt Rally with a pad. iRacing seemed impossible, but if you're spending that much on a game you may as well splurge for a wheel. I don't think iRacing is impossible, it's just you are racing against real people. Everything else people are talking about here is against AI. Particularly for the 'casual' sim racer guy (is there such a thing? Plenty of less simmy car games to play). You can play the games, turn down the difficulty and have a fine old time. Your experience and how good you get like that will not translate to somewhere like iRacing. Also, if unlocks = game to you then yeah Grid and plenty of other games do that in spades. For people that actually want the content locked away so they can 'earn' it or something (again see my comments above) then the shift in games like PCars, the focus on being on drive whatever you want and here is a series you can compete in.. but you're not unlocking stuff.. might not be for you. Talk about Stockholm syndrome.
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Jehde posted:Codemasters does just fine. Ive found assetto to be decent with a pad had much more problem with NFS shift with its floatly handling and bugs
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Tony Montana posted:I don't think iRacing is impossible, it's just you are racing against real people. Everything else people are talking about here is against AI. Particularly for the 'casual' sim racer guy (is there such a thing? Plenty of less simmy car games to play). You can play the games, turn down the difficulty and have a fine old time. Your experience and how good you get like that will not translate to somewhere like iRacing. Does Grid Autosport require unlocks for time trial and single race modes? I didn't mess with it too much before Dirt Rally and other sims pulled me away, but I thought they took the Rock Band route of having a campaign that progressively unlocks stuff, or you can skip right to doing whatever in the other game modes.
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Jan 19, 2016 02:59
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Yeah Grid Autosport is kinda close to the Race Driver series' way of unlocks, where once you reach a series in career its cars and tracks are unlocked in free play. At least that's what I remember, I think Grid 1 didn't have unlocks but the career was kinda free-form anyway. Never played Grid 2 because I was told it was poo poo.
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Tony Montana posted:I don't think iRacing is impossible, it's just you are racing against real people. Everything else people are talking about here is against AI. Particularly for the 'casual' sim racer guy (is there such a thing? Plenty of less simmy car games to play). You can play the games, turn down the difficulty and have a fine old time. Your experience and how good you get like that will not translate to somewhere like iRacing. LFS is against other people. Dirt Rally is against other people, though not at the same time on the same track, times are still compared to people.
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There are also plenty of people who play online with gamepads in pCARS. Edit: Personally, Dirt Rally is the only sim I can enjoy with a pad, but I'm terrible with pads in general. Eyud fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Jan 19, 2016 |
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pik_d posted:LFS is against other people. Dirt Rally is against other people, though not at the same time on the same track, times are still compared to people. You play LFS online with a pad and have fun? Your pad Dirt Rally times are one some leaderboard somewhere not in 10 millionth place? You miss the point. The point is to be competitive against other people you won't be doing it with a pad, unless everyone is using a pad and you're playing a console exclusive. I said, you can play the games just fine. Just don't expect to come online and be competitive. While you're fighting for control and to correct a slide without overcorrecting, everyone else will be 5 minutes down the road fighting for the lead.
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Jan 19, 2016 04:12
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Racing games are cool on a game pad or with a very expensive fake wheel.
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Jan 19, 2016 04:14
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I like to vroom vroom and make the cars go fast.
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I played a lot of the first Gran Turismo with a pad when I was teenager. It was fun.holocaust bloopers posted:Racing games are cool on a game pad or with a very expensive fake wheel. It's a real wheel. It's a wheel for using on a PC to play video games, but there is nothing fake about it. You can get one for under $200. That's not even expensive. Tony Montana fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Jan 19, 2016 |
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holocaust bloopers posted:Racing games are cool on a game pad or with a very expensive fake wheel. njsykora posted:I like to vroom vroom and make the cars go fast.  In other news, Stock Car Extreme modding superstar Patrick Giranthon released an updated version of Barcelona yesterday and it's great like all his stuff.
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Tony Montana posted:You play LFS online with a pad and have fun? Your pad Dirt Rally times are one some leaderboard somewhere not in 10 millionth place? You honestly have no idea what you're talking about and come across as some sort of realism elitist. Yes, I am absolutely competitive in LFS, and I have loads of fun online. Of course there's people faster than me (same could be said for anyone here who uses wheel though), but there's far, far more slower than me, wheel drivers included. When I played Dirt Rally I didn't pay much attention to the world leaderboards, only the goon league, but I won a few of those, and when I didn't I was pretty close.
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Tony Montana posted:You play LFS online with a pad and have fun? Your pad Dirt Rally times are one some leaderboard somewhere not in 10 millionth place? The goon races in PCars were also won the majority of the time by controller users I believe. In theory, yeah, a wheel is better. Silly to think you can't be good or have fun with a controller though in plenty of titles.
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Jan 19, 2016 06:45
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Play the cartoon video games however you want IMO.
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This is the PC sim thread, you will play with an overpriced wheel and make your FoV narrow, and you will enjoy it damnit.
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I'm using a 20 dollar Walmart fake Xbox controller that costs less than an oil change in my actual racecar and these games are still fun. 
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Sim racing with a gamepad is more realistic than my desert race buggy i'm building IRL. Cant even feel the road and steering feedback is non existent.
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Anyone have strong opinions on tire models or Ian Bell?
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Jan 19, 2016 17:40
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Heres a strong opinion. You should let me drive your cars thanks.
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holocaust bloopers posted:Anyone have strong opinions on tire models or Ian Bell? I now want PCars 2 to have rF2's tire model so Ian Bell's autobiography can be titled Flatspots and Baldspots.
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There will be another Assetto Corsa DTM on Sunday, 20:00 GMT. Brands Hatch this time. Unless everybody wants Zandvoort again.
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GhostDog posted:There will be another Assetto Corsa DTM on Sunday, 20:00 GMT. Brands Hatch this time. Unless everybody wants Zandvoort again. > : ( zandvoort is the best track ya know.
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Nah should change it up. Dunno if I'll be able to make this one or not.
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Not PC but this might be of interest, Assetto Corsa's console version is doing the press rounds. That new HUD looks pretty drat nice, though I'm not convinced AC will really survive on consoles if it's the same AC as on PC but without modding. Also they've apparently dropped the maximum car count in offline races to 16 which seems poor when Forza is rocking 24. The console version will also include all the Dream Pack stuff released up to then (so presumably up to DP4) as well. Most of interest to this thread though is probably the Ferrari FXX-K which is presumably gonna be in the next Dream Pack and is the cover car for that game and a built in championship editor is coming to the PC version pretty soon. Also maybe I'm wrong but would this be the first modern console racer to have Ferraris? I'd also like to have what seems to be the option to start a hotlap session from a little way before the s/f line rather than from the pits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRS-y2LopOU
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Nah Ferrari is in everything except PCARS on console. The AC subreddit is very concerned about their game being "consolized"
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