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Looper posted:lol why Probably for trade-related stuff. InspectorCarbonara posted:Even though the games aren't online so who loving cares if you are cloning and cheating in these 18 year old roms. Cheaters never prosper.
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Fortunately Pokemon isn't a game where you really need save states because it is easy as hell, and can't you save anywhere anyway?
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Soon my fantasies of bringing horribly broken gen 1 Pokemon stuffed full of tms that they shouldn't have learned to the new games via some weird poketransfer app will come to light! Level 100 bolt beam mewtwo with 252ev in every stat!
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codenameFANGIO posted:Fortunately Pokemon isn't a game where you really need save states because it is easy as hell, and can't you save anywhere anyway? You're not being imaginative enough. With save states you could save mid-fight and reload as many times as it takes to capture a Legendary or whatever. It's not just "I want to get past this part," but "I want to do this very exacting process absolutely perfectly." Maybe that's what Gamefreaks wants to avoid happening, though I think removing the option from an emulator is a little silly.
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I don't think you're thinking with the magic of Red and Blue enough. The code is so garbled together with magic, pixie dust, and bandaids yet somehow somewhat works the way it was intended despite some game breaking bugs that it probably introduced some new strange amazing bug in the save system that was just too glorious for human consumption.
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InspectorCarbonara posted:Presumably it's so you can't make a save state, trade a Pokemon to someone, then reload the save state to have a clone of that Pokemon. lol who cares i'm still gonna catch a mew before fighting misty
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Houle posted:I don't think you're thinking with the magic of Red and Blue enough. The code is so garbled together with magic, pixie dust, and bandaids yet somehow somewhat works the way it was intended despite some game breaking bugs that it probably introduced some new strange amazing bug in the save system that was just too glorious for human consumption. I would not be at all surprised if it turned out that just loading a savestate caused Pokemon to poo poo the bed in some way.
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Unless they're really bad at implementing emulator save states, they should have exactly zero effect on the running game.
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It's pretty clearly a stylistic choice.
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Save states are for wimps, anyway.
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greatn posted:It's pretty clearly a stylistic choice. Yeah. And since the games support local wireless trading I wonder if they had to actually go in and change some of the code and wanted to keep that process free of potentially weird emulation oddities.
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Speaking of saves is there anyway to get all the smash bros char unlocks through a save online?
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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:Speaking of saves is there anyway to get all the smash bros char unlocks through a save online? Probably not, but it's easy enough to unlock everyone.
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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:Speaking of saves is there anyway to get all the smash bros char unlocks through a save online? They essentially hand you all the characters just for playing the game.
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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:Speaking of saves is there anyway to get all the smash bros char unlocks through a save online? Just start up a 1-stock 1v1 match and jump off the edge; character unlocks have a secondary condition of "every 10 vs matches" starting at like 20.
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I'd be more interested in a save file that unlocks all the loving customizations
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jivjov posted:Just start up a 1-stock 1v1 match and jump off the edge; character unlocks have a secondary condition of "every 10 vs matches" starting at like 20. You could also just play the game because probably takes like an hour or something. It's not like Melee where it took forever
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Help Im Alive posted:You could also just play the game because probably takes like an hour or something. It's not like Melee where it took forever The continual 1v1s are just for if all you care about is grinding them out as quickly as possible.
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Didn't know that awesome Thanks!
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InspectorCarbonara posted:Presumably it's so you can't make a save state, trade a Pokemon to someone, then reload the save state to have a clone of that Pokemon. You can still do this on the old games. The game saves before trading, and then after a trade is complete. So you trade between two games, turn off the game of the pokemon you want to clone before it saves but right before it starts and you'll have the other game save, including the fact it has a new pokemon that was traded. It's how I did it 18 years ago HACK THE PLANET.
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What are good GBA games to get? I have FE and Minish Cap and Ive got both metroids and advance wars games on cartridge. I remember playig and enjoying... the third Battle Network game? Are the other ones any good?
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minusX posted:You can still do this on the old games. The game saves before trading, and then after a trade is complete. So you trade between two games, turn off the game of the pokemon you want to clone before it saves but right before it starts and you'll have the other game save, including the fact it has a new pokemon that was traded. It's how I did it 18 years ago HACK THE PLANET. Ah, the good old Game Link Cable days... I remember always being a little nervous each time we did that, but it never failed to work.
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Austrian mook posted:What are good GBA games to get? I have FE and Minish Cap and Ive got both metroids and advance wars games on cartridge. I remember playig and enjoying... the third Battle Network game? Are the other ones any good? Do you have both Fire Emblem games? There were two of them on GBA and they were both good. Also you should definitely get the GBA Castlevania games. There were three of those and at least two of them were good. Aria of Sorrow is one of the good ones and... I wanna say Circle of the Moon? Harmony of Dissonance is the third one and it's either the other good one or the somewhat mediocre one. Also, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. That is A Good GBA Game. There's also GBA ports of a bunch of Final Fantasy games which were all pretty decent, if you haven't played those in awhile/want to play them again.
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Austrian mook posted:I remember playig and enjoying... the third Battle Network game? Are the other ones any good? 2 - huge step in the right direction and first good battle network. easily broken with Gater PA. 3 - best, imo, but has some lovely turtley boss fights 4 - poo poo 5 - slightly less poo poo with boring tactics-like missions 6 - return to form. found a lot of it kind of forgettable but it was pretty fun regardless.
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Wario Land 4 + WarioWare are good GBA games
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Wario Land 4 Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga Circle of the Moon
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All the GBA Castlevania games are A+.
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the only good handheld castlevania is Aria of Sorrow
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Kaubocks posted:the only good handheld castlevania is Aria of Sorrow Are we considering all generations of handhelds? Because Portrait of Ruin is amazing.
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Austrian mook posted:What are good GBA games to get? I have FE and Minish Cap and Ive got both metroids and advance wars games on cartridge. I remember playig and enjoying... the third Battle Network game? Are the other ones any good?
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I played a few of the DS castlevania games, Ill pick those up along with Wario Land and Battle Network 2 probably. Should have some nice in bed with flu gaming ahead of me.
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Kaubocks posted:the only good handheld castlevania is Aria of Sorrow Aria of Sorrow owns, shame about Dawn of Sorrow though
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jivjov posted:Are we considering all generations of handhelds? Because Portrait of Ruin is amazing. yes I didn't care for any DS castlevania
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Kaubocks posted:the only good handheld castlevania is Aria of Sorrow Circle of the Moon and Order of Ecclesia are both better, sorry.
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I haven't played Circle or Harmony, but the other four are really good. Aria and Dawn are probably overall the best of them all, Portrait is good up until the final four areas and OoE is also really good but really hard. As an aside, OoE feels like the game that Simon's Quest was trying to be, and I think that's pretty cool.
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All the GBA and DS Castlevanias are good. People saying otherwise are usually whining about tiny differences that don't matter.
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order of ecclesia is the best game of all time.
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Tomorrow's eShop release: Zack and Wiki, Wii Classic ($20) http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/zack-and-wiki-quest-for-barbaros-treasure-wii-u
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Phantasium posted:All the GBA and DS Castlevanias are good. People saying otherwise are usually whining about tiny differences that don't matter. Quest For Glory II posted:Tomorrow's eShop release: Zack and Wiki, Wii Classic ($20)
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minusX posted:Who would ever talk about little differences that don't matterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxpPcK-f66I (I liked the video/series though) There's a huge difference between Castlevania 1 and 2, though.
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