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alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


Madcosby posted:

At the last citizenCon, there was a moment where Roberts turned to the crowd and triumphantly yelled "AND THERE WILL BE NO ASSIGNED RELEASE DATE!" and everyone cheered

scary

this is great when you have a creative, dedicated team of competent people, driven to do the best they can on a feasible project they are entirely passionate about

but if you're a meandering yes-to-everything dickhead with a psycho partner who has promised your audience the world and then some, it's essentially going to become the novel that you take out every few months as an adult, write a new paragraph, cautiously delete some text, then throw away. deadlines are good. having an achievable project within parameters is good. timeframes force you to get poo poo done.

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Runa
Feb 13, 2011

kingcom posted:

I'm still not over this lol. They dont look like the things youre saying they are in the slightest.

The first one looks like some kind of gunship and not a fighter. Its got long wings to work in atmoshpere or something and strafe at different angels.

The second is some kind of heavy weapons platform with the big railguns on the side and flat back that should have some kind of mounted gun. There is nothing about it that looks like a cargo ship. The cockpit is huge relative to any cargobay. Its too small to be a truck and doesnt look fast for some kind of smuggling ship and seems rigged to just mount weapons above its size category.

The news van hilarious looks like some kind of fighter/bomber but idk.

I agree, but I'm also going to point out that airplanes is also an incredibly boring starting point for designing spaceships, which only further increases the feeling of how generic everything is.

This might be the sort of aesthetic that appeals to Iglocska, but I've always preferred spaceships that look like spaceships. Homeworld, EvE, even Elite's cheese wedges vs. yachts design split. (Incidentally I've never really had much bad to say about SC's own take on the Imperial Yacht concept.) With the exception the Jump thing, the Merchantman, and I guess the in-retrospect-kind-of-stupid Orion, Star Citizen's ships look incredibly boring and uninspired as a whole. Individually each ship is designed to look impressive, either on a store page or in a garage, but as a sign of a overall art direction they're less than the sum of their parts.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Scruffpuff posted:

Of all things Star Citizen, the News Van Ship has to be the most surreal. The more you think about it, the deeper you dive into the insanity of the backers who proposed such an idea. There are people out there who think that in a heavily-instanced mini-area of 16 people, it would be fun for them to take up one of those slots to just fly around and look at the other 15 people, then report on their activities. Then, ostensibly, post them on YouTube and become some kind of space-Kronkite. What do they think those 15 people will be doing that would make for interesting viewing? Who the gently caress is going to watch something like that on YouTube? And since there's no persistence in a galaxy split into shards of 16 players each, why would anyone care? At least in EVE, with a single universe run by its inhabitants, there actually can be a newsworthy event that affects your play. But here, there is nothing, and there never will be anything. Do they think they're going to fly into a space battle, but not be participants themselves, and that will be more fun to watch than someone else who is actually IN the battle? The more I try to deep dive into their psyche, the more I disconnect from reason.

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/41vyul/watching_npcs_work/

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Imagine tuning into "in-game programming" to watch an NPC mine an asteroid, then follow it back to the dropoff point. ON AN IN-GAME MONITOR. I take back everything I said - I'm donating $25,000 today.

aleksendr
May 14, 2014

Xaerael posted:

So, I remember once upon a long ago when the original Splinter Cell was put on a demo disc for xBox about 10 months ahead of it's release date. It had a fully working level with all the features that reached the final game, with some really complex game mechanics for it's day. The only thing that wasn't perfect was some of the textures were obviously fill ins or low res.

If anyone thinks SC will be out, as promised, within the next 4 years, they're utter idiots.

By a strict definition of "Out as promised" the task is now impossible unless they "un-cancel" the 48M stretch goal "Retaliator Commercial" they officially nixed.

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Let me get this straight, a FPS weapon crashes the game?

What?

That is just mind blowing right there.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Lime Tonics posted:

Let me get this straight, a FPS weapon crashes the game?

What?

That is just mind blowing right there.
Yes, and they're worried enough to single that out it out ask players to report it if it somehow randomly reappears.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Lime Tonics posted:

Let me get this straight, a FPS weapon crashes the game?

What?

That is just mind blowing right there.

Gameplay is the very last stage of game development. They were fools to integrate gameplay this early into the cycle. They paid the price for their lack of vision.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


These people can't possibly have seen a blade of grass in their life time. You couldn't loving drag them away from it.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
I made a Dr pepper cake and it owns

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Eonwe posted:

I made a Dr pepper cake and it owns

Coca-Cola cake rocks as well.

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

http://www.twitch.tv/jhow4444

watch it NOW.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


Eonwe posted:

I made a Dr pepper cake and it owns

i am jealous, is the recipe worth a go then? cherry dr pepper is a bit hard to come by in australia but i will give it my best

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
skip to 11.13 on that vid I posted for Star Citizen unexpected content

A Neurotic Jew
Feb 17, 2012

by exmarx
- A dude who just wants to play arena commander starts to fill in some blanks and gets dog-piled. His resiliance is pretty admirable imo:
https://forums.robertsspaceindustri...t-play-the-game

- A $500-$999 backer checks out after its confirmed that the Starfarer cockpit is absolutely retarded. The thread has absolutely exploded. I'm starting to think criticizing ship cockpits is the surest path to meltdowns:
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/314055/update-official-statement-on-cockpit-views-maybe-not-quite-as-great-as-i-thought

quote:





EminusSleepus
Sep 28, 2015

Sperg carebears are a bit pissed of the plan for interdiction to be implemented lol



https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/4223bb/foundry_42_de_working_on_interdiction_this_could/

Gonkish
May 19, 2004

I just watched The Big Short.

Christian Bale's character in that is roughly analogous to Derek's role with SC, and eventually there's gonna be a movie about this shitheap of a scam where he's inevitably played by Denzel Washington or Will Smith... and the name of this movie will be "LET ME loving FINISH". Only the white people in it will get nominated, because Hollywood.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

alf_pogs posted:

i am jealous, is the recipe worth a go then? cherry dr pepper is a bit hard to come by in australia but i will give it my best

http://www.cooks.com/recipe/g23wf22b/dr-pepper-cake.html

this is what I went with

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014


ok, watching. Posting crap.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/41vml8/any_way_to_report_players/cz5soo1

wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

a glass case of emotion

Fallen Rib
i don't appreciate your aggressive attitude towards chairs

Madcosby
Mar 4, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
what is interdiction for those of us who dont play space games

Damn Dirty Ape
Jan 23, 2015

I love you Dr. Zaius



Madcosby posted:

what is interdiction for those of us who dont play space games

It's something dropping you out of warp/hyperspace/lightspeed/whatever against your will. In some games it's also the creation of a 'no warp zone'.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


A Neurotic Jew posted:

- A dude who just wants to play arena commander starts to fill in some blanks and gets dog-piled. His resiliance is pretty admirable imo:
https://forums.robertsspaceindustri...t-play-the-game

jockitch is dropping some great truth bombs in there against a lot of "have faith / you're not a gamedev" nonsense:

Jockitch posted:

I remember going 3-4 months without a patch on a rubber banding crash fest . Sure star citizen uses stats or whatever to fix issues I guess but I don't see it . What stats are they collecting now ? I crashed 10 times yesterday . How will they be using that ? The defense will always be that we are testing but I see very little if any fixes . Oh wait ! Maybe 2.2 will have these fixes ? Remember that in 1.3 I had a thread that also complained about the crashes . Some of the same people on this thread said 2.0 would fix those crashes . What happened ?

What exactly are people disagreeing with ? You don't want the crashes to stop ? You think cig knows what they are doing ? Matches in battle royale should be 20 minutes long ?


the line "i crashed 10 times yesterday. how will they be using that?" is a perfect question. at this point the frequency of system errors and crashes to desktop are just insane. i am baffled that people are okay with this.

everything he's posting in the thread is fantastic. looking forward to seeing more of these erupt over the year.

Solomonic
Jan 3, 2008

INCIPIT SANTA

Madcosby posted:

what is interdiction for those of us who dont play space games

it's when the church says you can't do any churchy stuff until you join Alexander VI and defend the country from French invasions

for real it's when you get forcibly pulled out of FTL travel by another dude

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Gonkish posted:

I just watched The Big Short.

Christian Bale's character in that is roughly analogous to Derek's role with SC, and eventually there's gonna be a movie about this shitheap of a scam where he's inevitably played by Denzel Washington or Will Smith... and the name of this movie will be "LET ME loving FINISH". Only the white people in it will get nominated, because Hollywood.

gently caress that, Idris Elba for Derek Smart.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


Young Freud posted:

gently caress that, Muhammad Ali for Derek Smart.

Trammel
Dec 31, 2007
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I've not played, but surely somebody is trolling here. This can't be. The game designers must understand basic Newtonian motion?

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

wyoak posted:

i don't appreciate your aggressive attitude towards chairs

chairs can, and do, kiss my rear end

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

A Neurotic Jew posted:

- A dude who just wants to play arena commander starts to fill in some blanks and gets dog-piled. His resiliance is pretty admirable imo:
https://forums.robertsspaceindustri...t-play-the-game

- A $500-$999 backer checks out after its confirmed that the Starfarer cockpit is absolutely retarded. The thread has absolutely exploded. I'm starting to think criticizing ship cockpits is the surest path to meltdowns:
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/314055/update-official-statement-on-cockpit-views-maybe-not-quite-as-great-as-i-thought

This is good poo poo

Banano
Jan 10, 2005
Soiled Meat

something elite can only dream of.

just loving give up braben you pathetic hack

jestest
Feb 12, 2014

Ancient Aliens: Closer Encounters
new "hit piece", if it isn't already out there. the comments are amazing.

http://www.pcpowerplay.com.au/feature/the-star-citizen-honeymoon-is-over,413944

jestest
Feb 12, 2014

Ancient Aliens: Closer Encounters
e:double post, like my hero Eonwe

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

Watching the stream I posted, SC is hosed. Valkyrie looks stunning, immersive and fun. I can't wait to get my hands on a headset to play it.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
I dream of the day when I can log onto my fantasy Sci Fi second life, immerse myself in a VR universe and watch a dude put up some dry wall :psyduck:

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004


you goonies sure are bad at trolling. here is me spending an inordinate amount of time crafting a sick burn that compares a forum poster to hitler. help, i'm up to my neck in pig poo poo and i'm drowning.

Madcosby
Mar 4, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

jestest posted:

new "hit piece", if it isn't already out there. the comments are amazing.

http://www.pcpowerplay.com.au/feature/the-star-citizen-honeymoon-is-over,413944



that article is unreadable. is there a translation out there

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

jestest posted:

new "hit piece", if it isn't already out there. the comments are amazing.

http://www.pcpowerplay.com.au/feature/the-star-citizen-honeymoon-is-over,413944



How has James Brand proven that Derek is a two timer?

grimcreaper
Jan 7, 2012

jestest posted:

new "hit piece", if it isn't already out there. the comments are amazing.

http://www.pcpowerplay.com.au/feature/the-star-citizen-honeymoon-is-over,413944



You know.. reading that while listening to good, relaxing music is really wierd.

maybe its just this song in particular. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMxU0Lrii7k

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Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

I still can't wrap my head around how an adult person can care so much about a video game that they write that many real mad words

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