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But let's talk about bad movies. Screened at Sundance, "White Girl":https://variety.com/2016/film/reviews/white-girl-film-review-sundance-1201687114/ posted:Wood’s semi-autobiographical shocker is wall-to-wall drugs and depravity, offered up as proof that white girls can be as “hard” as the best of them. Served up as an extreme survival story, Wood’s gut-wrenching experience packs the same sickening effect as past Killer Films productions “Party Monster” and “Kids,” albeit with even less social value.
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The MSJ posted:James Cameron loves anime. The similarities between James Cameron and John Cena pile up! They should make a Fist of the North Star movie together.
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James Cameron should make The Legend of Zelda that's anime.
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outlier posted:But let's talk about bad movies. Screened at Sundance, "White Girl": This sounds good and the reviewer sounds extremely ftl
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Marlon Wayans was on Fallon the other night, and when Fallon asked him what the premise of the movie was, he straight up said they took the characters from the original and changed them because that's not how black people would've done things. White dominatrixes are like this.  Black dominatrixes are like this. 
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Hat Thoughts posted:Avatar is one of Michael Mann's ten favorite movies of all time Please, Cameron, step aside for the next installment and let Mann direct.
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Grendels Dad posted:Since "people don't talk about it anymore" proved to be a terrible bench mark for cultural impact, as it seems impossible to go into any kind of detail what "talk" means, who those people are and what timeframe "anymore" refers to, I would like to provide a better bench mark: porn parodies. If a movie has a porn parody, it has impacted culture. Avatar has one, I heard, therefore Avatar possesses this nebulous quality referred to in this thread as cultural impact. since the Disney furry movie has porn before it releases, would it have the ultimate cultural impact?
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It's a lot tougher to get a piece of media to resonate on a large scale the way it used to because there's so much more media now. It's so much easier for the newest epic movie to be replaced by some newer thing the movie industry wants to sell you, in addition to the myriad alternative media options that just didn't exist 20-30 years ago.
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Hat Thoughts posted:Avatar is one of Michael Mann's ten favorite movies of all time and james cameron told us genesys was good despite it being somehow worse than salvation. you'd think a guy with as much money as he has couldnt be paid off but ther eyou go.
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The inevitable has happened http://www.telegraph.co.uk/film/movie-news/labyrinth-sequel-david-bowie/
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computer parts posted:I think Pacific Rim still comes up more than Godzilla 2014 for the same reason. I honestly forgot Godzilla '14 happened. Snowman_McK posted:If your measure of cultural impact or footprint is "people can quote two short lines completely divorced from context" then it doesn't seem to be anything worth discussing or measuring. It's just whether it sparked a meme. In which case, Citizen Kane can gently caress off and we should spend more time discussing Snakes on a Plane. I'm not sure what you're getting at here since guy dropping snow globe / muttering "Rosebud" and Rosebud being a sled are referenced far more in pop culture than anything in Snakes on a Plane. raditts fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Jan 24, 2016 |
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The Saddest Rhino posted:since the Disney furry movie has porn before it releases, would it have the ultimate cultural impact? I think one of the criteria is that the porn parody needs to have better costuming and/or dialog so I'm not sure.
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Groovelord Neato posted:and james cameron told us genesys was good despite it being somehow worse than salvation. you'd think a guy with as much money as he has couldnt be paid off but ther eyou go. I mean, he said so on a Sight And Sound list of his top 10 movies that came out 3 years later, so I don't really think that explanation's probable. Here's the full list for posterity Apocalypse Now (1979, dir. Francis Ford Coppola) Battleship Potemkin (1925, dir. Sergei Eisenstein) Citizen Kane (1941, dir. Orson Welles) Avatar (2009, dir. James Cameron) Dr. Strangelove (1964, dir. Stanley Kubrick) Biutiful (2010, dir. Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu) My Darling Clementine (1946, dir. John Ford) The Passion Of Joan Of Arc (1928, dir. Carl Theodor Dreyer) Raging Bull (1980, dir. Martin Scorsese) The Wild Bunch (1969, dir. Sam Peckinpah)
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The Saddest Rhino posted:since the Disney furry movie has porn before it releases, would it have the ultimate cultural impact? No, since by default everything has porn. That's just a sign of how marketing is included in that.
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Hat Thoughts posted:Here's the full list for posterity O_O
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I think it's really interesting that Mann's list doesn't include any film noir.
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Groovelord Neato posted:and james cameron told us genesys was good despite it being somehow worse than salvation. you'd think a guy with as much money as he has couldnt be paid off but ther eyou go. It's probably less a case of being paid off and more has to maintain a professional relationship with these people.
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James Cameron was right and you fools are wrong.PBS Newshour posted:Remember the robot that had a knife on a robot belt that it grabbed? I will never forget. It's far and away the best moment in an otherwise pretty lousy movie.
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Well I mean, where else is a robot going to keep its robot knives.
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Anyone see The Boy and was it as hilarious as the trailer? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1U21VBSbSs outlier posted:But let's talk about bad movies. Screened at Sundance, "White Girl": Iggy Azalea: Autobiography
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are you all still talking about avatar itt? I really want to see that Daniel Radcliffe bomb (also starring Paul Dano). Supposedly they had to turn people away because the first showing was so packed. Of course seats became available before the movie even finished.
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SciFiDownBeat posted:are you all still talking about avatar itt? It's gonna have to be really bad to dethrone Tideland as the de-facto horrible movie about a farting corpse played by a recognizable actor.
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Tars Tarkas posted:Anyone see The Boy and was it as hilarious as the trailer? If there wasn't a blizzard I would have been in the theater at 9:30 on Saturday morning watching The Boy.
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At least the doll looks spooky in a somewhat subtle way. Annabelle was just so way over the top in it's creepy look that it was unbelievable as a doll and still a lot less creepy than regular old porcelain dolls.
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Tars Tarkas posted:Anyone see The Boy and was it as hilarious as the trailer? Would it really be too much trouble for the old couple to go, "Look, we know how crazy this is. We've been taking care of this evil murder doll for thirty years and need a vacation. The last time we tried to take a weekend off there were four dead hookers in the foyer waiting for us when we got home. So just follow this list of mildly inconvenient instructions, we'll lay on the beach in Spain, and nobody will get their soul devoured by the devil. Tootles. Oh, and there's some Oreos in the cupboard that you can help yourself to."
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They're probably in on it and lust for babysitter death.
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Tars Tarkas posted:Anyone see The Boy and was it as hilarious as the trailer? I saw it. The twist is dumb and makes no sense. Basically, the old couple had a kid who was a sociopath or something. He ended killing a girl on his birthday, and getting caught in a fire. So to cover up that he did it, they fake his death and build an elaborate system of tunnels in their house for him to live in. They get a doll that looks like him and pretend it's his spirit or something. 20 years later they decide to leave and kill themselves, so they look for some woman to take care of him, and he goes around pretending to be a ghost.
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shadowvine118 posted:I saw it. The twist is dumb and makes no sense. Basically, the old couple had a kid who was a sociopath or something. He ended killing a girl on his birthday, and getting caught in a fire. So to cover up that he did it, they fake his death and build an elaborate system of tunnels in their house for him to live in. They get a doll that looks like him and pretend it's his spirit or something. 20 years later they decide to leave and kill themselves, so they look for some woman to take care of him, and he goes around pretending to be a ghost. Thanks for saving me 10 bucks
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Tars Tarkas posted:Anyone see The Boy and was it as hilarious as the trailer? It was a fun experience, but I doubt I'll ever feel like revisiting that movie.
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shadowvine118 posted:I saw it. The twist is dumb and makes no sense. Basically, the old couple had a kid who was a sociopath or something. He ended killing a girl on his birthday, and getting caught in a fire. So to cover up that he did it, they fake his death and build an elaborate system of tunnels in their house for him to live in. They get a doll that looks like him and pretend it's his spirit or something. 20 years later they decide to leave and kill themselves, so they look for some woman to take care of him, and he goes around pretending to be a ghost. Oh, so it's that one episode of Supernatural from 10 years ago. Except that one had the double twist of the not-a-ghost child having another sibling that's also in the house.
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shadowvine118 posted:I saw it. The twist is dumb and makes no sense. Basically, the old couple had a kid who was a sociopath or something. He ended killing a girl on his birthday, and getting caught in a fire. So to cover up that he did it, they fake his death and build an elaborate system of tunnels in their house for him to live in. They get a doll that looks like him and pretend it's his spirit or something. 20 years later they decide to leave and kill themselves, so they look for some woman to take care of him, and he goes around pretending to be a ghost. That's almost exactly the plot twist I suspected the film might have even before they showed the doll. Evil doll is also a cliche, but at least playing it straight means that there isn't a terrible twist.
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shadowvine118 posted:I saw it. The twist is dumb and makes no sense. Basically, the old couple had a kid who was a sociopath or something. He ended killing a girl on his birthday, and getting caught in a fire. So to cover up that he did it, they fake his death and build an elaborate system of tunnels in their house for him to live in. They get a doll that looks like him and pretend it's his spirit or something. 20 years later they decide to leave and kill themselves, so they look for some woman to take care of him, and he goes around pretending to be a ghost. I figured that the movie was going to have that twist after watching the trailer, even though its a really dumb twist.
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Makes me wish I had friends who like to watch lovely movies so I could go see The Boy with them  The most fun I've had watching a bad movie was when I saw R.I.P.D. and the only other people in the theatre were three loud black guys. Made what would've been a boring movie experience thoroughly enjoyable.
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Grendels Dad posted:Since "people don't talk about it anymore" proved to be a terrible bench mark for cultural impact, as it seems impossible to go into any kind of detail what "talk" means, who those people are and what timeframe "anymore" refers to, I would like to provide a better bench mark: porn parodies. If a movie has a porn parody, it has impacted culture. Avatar has one, I heard, therefore Avatar possesses this nebulous quality referred to in this thread as cultural impact. Actually, it has two from the same studio. They are exactly as bad as you're imagining them to be. Possibly worse raditts posted:I honestly forgot Godzilla '14 happened. People know it entirely as a reference, though. It's all second hand. The way plenty of people instantly recognize the scene cribbed from "From Here to Eternity" without having seen the movie. Including plenty of people who did the send ups. Rosebud is more often a reference to another reference. When the Simpsons did it, the one nerd in the room nodded knowingly, then explained the joke to everyone else. Again, purely anecdotal, but in a film class, the teacher was pointing out all the references in the Simpsons (the many to the Godfather, Citizen Kane, 2001, Modern Times and so on) and the class found it revelatory. They could recognise that they were references, but they were not aware what they were referencing.
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Sleeveless posted:It's gonna have to be really bad to dethrone Tideland as the de-facto horrible movie about a farting corpse played by a recognizable actor. Tideland is dope & the best thing Gilliam's done since the Fisher King at least.
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