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tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Uh this was how I cooked chicken for last years daytoner fi hunnit party.

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Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
Completely random, but here's Doug Heveron's account of being the final yellow that handed Petty his 200th at Daytona in 1984

quote:

I always say, if I didn't make it, at least I'll be a trivia question. There were three or four laps to go. I was pulling out to pass (another driver), and Benny Parsons was in my blind spot. I didn't know he was there. We didn't really have the best spotter. I pulled out, and he just caught my right rear bumper. It got me a little wormy. Of course, it went left, and I was skidding sideways. When the windshield left, I said, "Well, this isn't going to be a whole lot of fun."

The thing took off and just went up and landed on the driver's door. I had mud inside my helmet. I had an open-faced helmet then. There was mud everywhere. Thank God it rained, because I believe I hit my head on the ground.

The car came to a sliding halt. Petty and Yarborough were racing back. I walked over to a creek. I was kind of washing my hands and face off in it. I hope it was water.

There was a guy standing on a motorhome going, "Hey, hey, you want a beer?" I said, "No, I've got to go to the hospital first." He was wasted. I remember he had jeans on, no shirt, a beer. I remember the guy clear as a bell. It was funny as hell.

It knocked me silly a little bit. But did it hurt? Not really. I hit the wall in qualifying there at 199 mph one year head on. That hurt. A lot of people bring it up. It doesn't bother me. I'm glad I was part of it, that's for sure. I like telling the story. I think it's a hilarious story, actually.

LASTCAR
Mar 25, 2010

I like the drivers
you never hear about
in the cars
you never see
who finish in the position
you never want


Awesome story, Viking. I love hidden tales like that. :)

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

If I'm a neutral viewer of that ad and it's advertising a sport I don't watch, using soccer as an example, I'll see it and it's not going to make me watch soccer.

BMB5150 posted:

Looked more like your average beer commercial which is pandering to the base. Also :lol: at having and outdoor BBQ in the middle of winter.

You mean you don't open up your pool and have a bunch of attractive Millennials fresh out of central casting over for the Daytona 500?

BMB5150
Oct 24, 2010

2018 Indianapolis 500 Winner

CBJSprague24 posted:

You mean you don't open up your pool and have a bunch of attractive Millennials fresh out of central casting over for the Daytona 500?

Well if by pool you mean one of the many potholes in my city that is filled up with rain water with all the storms I get, more power to them to go in for a dip.

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009

CBJSprague24 posted:

If I'm a neutral viewer of that ad and it's advertising a sport I don't watch, using soccer as an example, I'll see it and it's not going to make me watch soccer.

I don't think there are many ads that are going to draw any uninterested fans to racing, so the best they can do is appeal to the base they have or have had. There's only so many directions you can go and this is a perfectly viable one.

CBJSprague24 posted:

You mean you don't open up your pool and have a bunch of attractive Millennials fresh out of central casting over for the Daytona 500?

that sounds rad tho

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

kidcoelacanth posted:

that sounds rad tho

It does sound like good times.

BMB5150 posted:

Well if by pool you mean one of the many potholes in my city that is filled up with rain water with all the storms I get, more power to them to go in for a dip.

With enough alcoholic libations, that water should feel nice and warm.

BMB5150
Oct 24, 2010

2018 Indianapolis 500 Winner

CBJSprague24 posted:

With enough alcoholic libations, that water should feel nice and warm.

That or get high cause we can do that too, legally.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

LASTCAR posted:

Awesome story, Viking. I love hidden tales like that. :)

Then you'll love the story it came from

Here's Mike Curb's recollection which will make all you Carl Long fans happy

quote:

In 1983, I got a call from Bill France Jr. He said to me, "Mike, I thought you said when you were through being acting governor you were going to come back to NASCAR." I said, "You're right, and I still have my shop in Kannapolis. But I don’t have a driver." He said, "Are you sitting down?" I said, "I don’t need to sit down, if there's a driver you want in my car, just tell me."

In those days, if Bill France Jr. called, you said yes.

He said, "No, are you sitting down?" I said, "OK, I’m sitting down." He said, "I want to put Richard Petty in your car."

I said, "Why?" He said, "Did you see what happened in Charlotte?” (Petty’s car was determined to have an illegal engine after he won a race there in 1983, and his Petty Enterprises team was heavily penalized.)

I guess the decision was made, and I don’t know anything about it, except they made the decision that Richard would leave his family's team for a couple of years. They weren't ready to ban Richard Petty. It would be like banning Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Danica Patrick right now.

Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Jan 25, 2016

LASTCAR
Mar 25, 2010

I like the drivers
you never hear about
in the cars
you never see
who finish in the position
you never want


VikingSkull posted:

Then you'll love the story it came from

Here's Mike Curb's recollection which will make all you Carl Long fans happy

I'm glad they shed a little light on that story - Petty's move to the Curb team never really made much sense to me. I get that NASCAR didn't want to penalize Richard for a blatant infraction, but I don't see how essentially forcing him to switch teams for a year or two accomplished anything. Both driver and team were still able to run in Cup in 1984 (Petty Enterprises just put Kyle in a car with 7-11 sponsorship) and Richard didn't even lose his STP sponsorship in the process. Hell, one could say that Curb was actually giving Richard better equipment that got him those final two wins.

The whole scheme sounds more Brian France than Bill Jr.


Boomer The Cannon posted:

NASCAR racing is to that ad, what the plot is to a porno film.

Sums that ad up perfectly. To be honest, that ad depressed me a bit, knowing the sport isn't and never has been THAT popular.

I also hated the "Daytona Day" concept itself - not the spirit of it, but rather the casual inaccuracy that completely ignored SpeedWeeks. Just another step down the road after FS1 tried to convince us that college basketball was somehow part of SpeedWeeks 2015.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

LASTCAR posted:

The whole scheme sounds more Brian France than Bill Jr.

Maybe it's because I've been watching this for three decades, but that's why I get irritated when some stupid poo poo happens and people go nuts.

If you didn't know NASCAR was a dumpster fire since 1948 coming in, I dunno what to tell you lol

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe


Billy Venturini, 1994

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

LASTCAR posted:

Sums that ad up perfectly. To be honest, that ad depressed me a bit, knowing the sport isn't and never has been THAT popular.

I also hated the "Daytona Day" concept itself - not the spirit of it, but rather the casual inaccuracy that completely ignored SpeedWeeks. Just another step down the road after FS1 tried to convince us that college basketball was somehow part of SpeedWeeks 2015.

I got bored and decided to subject myself to Dave Moody today.

As per usual he tried to spin the ad as a positive thing for the sport, and about how it's going to lure all these new fans to NASCAR.

"Maybe these people will treat it like most people treat the super bowl. They're not fans, but they'll come for the parties and for the "atmosphere", etc. They're far more important to the future of this sport than the "loyal" fans that call into this show just to complain!"

NASCAR seems really obsessed with this mindset for some reason. I don't quite grasp it.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
"lemme see what this fat blowhard has to say about a commercial"

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009

FuzzySkinner posted:

NASCAR seems really obsessed with this mindset for some reason. I don't quite grasp it.

This is going to sound crazy, but hear me out: Maybe it's because they want to attract new fans to the sport

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009

I should also be clear: I don't expect it to work at all, but that's less to do with anything about the campaign and more to do with the fact that attracting anyone to racing is pretty loving hard. Making the comparison to more mainstream sports is probably the best option they have. They're not stupid, they've run these numbers. It's why the chase exists.

Slickdrac
Oct 5, 2007

Not allowed to have nice things

kidcoelacanth posted:

This is going to sound crazy, but hear me out: Maybe it's because they want to attract new fans to the sport

This might also sound crazy, but maybe they should focus a bit more on retaining the ones that are fleeing in droves

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009

Slickdrac posted:

This might also sound crazy, but maybe they should focus a bit more on retaining the ones that are fleeing in droves

There's no marketing campaign that's going to do that. Any fan that drops NASCAR is doing so because of on-track product, or the Chase, or dumber reasons like Toyota winning the championship. You may as well focus on making the effort to grab the casual or new fan with advertising because the old crowd knows the score already and no commercial is going to make or break that.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

Slickdrac posted:

This might also sound crazy, but maybe they should focus a bit more on retaining the ones that are fleeing in droves

I'm an admin on a FB group, and the old school fans that are still around should be smothered with a pillow

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

LASTCAR posted:

I'm glad they shed a little light on that story - Petty's move to the Curb team never really made much sense to me. I get that NASCAR didn't want to penalize Richard for a blatant infraction, but I don't see how essentially forcing him to switch teams for a year or two accomplished anything. Both driver and team were still able to run in Cup in 1984 (Petty Enterprises just put Kyle in a car with 7-11 sponsorship) and Richard didn't even lose his STP sponsorship in the process. Hell, one could say that Curb was actually giving Richard better equipment that got him those final two wins.

The whole scheme sounds more Brian France than Bill Jr.

It really does sound more like Brian. I'd once heard there was a "falling out" amongst the Petty clan, but didn't realize there was NASCAR intervention to set up the Curb deal. Maybe that was the propaganda.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

CBJSprague24 posted:

It really does sound more like Brian. I'd once heard there was a "falling out" amongst the Petty clan, but didn't realize there was NASCAR intervention to set up the Curb deal. Maybe that was the propaganda.

It was 100% propaganda and I have a feeling it was because other competitors were about to go public about Petty having a looooong history of cheating with tacit NASCAR approval.

He won #198 with a hilariously, blatantly illegal car. I think they pulled everyone aside, had a meeting, and let them know "he gets 199 and 200 at another team for the good of the sport, then that motherfucker never wins again, deal?"

It's just too odd to me that he gets wins until he gets caught cheating, goes to another team and picks up two wins, then never wins again for a decade.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

You could tell Mike Joy was trying to be passive-aggressive about "the fix is in" in that article.

Speaking of arrangements by an Association, Smackdown isn't the only thing moving to USA this season- Watkins Glen will be on USA because of Olympic coverage.

Full TV schedule: http://www.nascar.com/en_us/sprint-cup-series/schedule.html

e- NASCAR's story gave the wrong link to the TV schedule details.

CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Jan 26, 2016

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 14 days!)

kidcoelacanth posted:

I should also be clear: I don't expect it to work at all, but that's less to do with anything about the campaign and more to do with the fact that attracting anyone to racing is pretty loving hard. Making the comparison to more mainstream sports is probably the best option they have. They're not stupid, they've run these numbers. It's why the chase exists.

Weird that the guy who works for a NASCAR advertising agency is defending that stupid commercial.

bigbillystyle
Nov 11, 2003

We have Drive to Survive at home

kidcoelacanth posted:

This is going to sound crazy, but hear me out: Maybe it's because they want to attract new fans to the sport

I don't really care either way, like/hate, on the commercial but I feel like NASCAR has been trying to grasp this same section of new fans (males 18-49 who like the NFL) for the last 15 years using the same kind of join the party type approach. That same, hey guys, we're just like football so now that football is over come watch us! kind of thing. Also I can't think of a single person that I know in the last 15 years that never used to watch who now watches regularly. You'd think that being a male between 18-49 and having a lot of friends who are also male and between 18 and 49 I'd know at least 1 of them who started watching even 5 races a year. Excluding the guys I work with on a race team I know 3 people that watch it at all, 2 women I work with and my dad.

It just seems like they need a new angle on trying to attract new fans because the 4 quarter sudden death overtime superbowl sports team angle clearly isn't working.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
The angle they need to go with is "we dropped nerve gas on the morons who won't shut up about the old days, it's safe for you to watch now"

Boomer The Cannon
Oct 27, 2011

Gotta see it live!


VikingSkull posted:



Billy Venturini, 1994
This photo owns bones.

Also, how old is Billy?

Boomer The Cannon
Oct 27, 2011

Gotta see it live!


kidcoelacanth posted:

This is going to sound crazy, but hear me out: Maybe it's because they want to attract as much new money to the sport before it gets mad and walks away

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

VikingSkull posted:

I'm an admin on a FB group, and the old school fans that are still around should be smothered with a pillow

Makes sense that the ones who haven't quit are dumb as poo poo.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Under the Chase format, the 2015 NXS champion would have BEEN........ Daniel Suarez :mexico:.

...who would've completed the Ryan Newman Destiny by not winning a race. I can't wait for that to happen this year. :ironicat:

http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2016/1/26/xfinity-series-2015-results-2016-format-new-champion.html?cq_ck=1453831193351

Also, four drivers would've clinched Chase spots on the merit of wins. 33% of the field.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Barney Hall died.

If you want Quintessential NASCAR, he was it. This sucks.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
That's one that hits in the gut, for sure

Boomer The Cannon
Oct 27, 2011

Gotta see it live!


http://m.reviewjournal.com/business/investor-seeks-ouster-independent-director-allegiant-parent-companys-board

keevo
Jun 16, 2011

:burger:WAKE UP:burger:
Sooo the MudSummer Classic is now being called #Eldora.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

keevo posted:

Sooo the MudSummer Classic is now being called #Eldora.

Blow up Eldora

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 14 days!)

keevo posted:

Sooo the MudSummer Classic is now being called #Eldora.

PoundEldora? Idgi

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Hash Tag Eldora.

ayn rand hand job posted:

Blow up Baseball

If they had to give up their clever, punny name because MLB felt threatened, I love this brutally clarified name for the race as a fan who spends money on this.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 14 days!)

CBJSprague24 posted:

Hash Tag Eldora.

That's even worse!

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Nascar 2016:how many times can old timers cry.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Not specifically NASCAR related but tennessee and 'dewshine' so:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/teens-may-have-drunk-fatal-mixture-racing-fuel-mountain-dew-n505196

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theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
I hope someone interviews Jeremy Mayfield.

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