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Romes128 posted:Mocap is done. All the actors are working on other things (except sandi lol) No clarification needed, no one here thinks "Sandi!" when they hear "actors."
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okay, time for everyone in the thread to reveal which CIG employee they are, this has been a fun 'forums criticism simulation' exercise, Guys it was me, Ben Lesnike, the whole time!
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OK here's my official guess (until my next official guess), cobbled together from all the evidence, actions, money, players involved, and statements made: SQ42 will be the only product CIG releases, and every other aspect of the project is going to be scrapped. PU, Arena Commander, social module, hangar - all of it. This will be spun in the exact same way Chris spun the cancellation of Star Marine. They will go on record stating that the new (and much more awesome) tech being used in SQ42 will , with some tweaking, become the new foundation of the PU and everything else they promised. Let's see how close I get.
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By the way, whoever was Derek, you did an amazing job!!! See me after
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Scruffpuff posted:OK here's my official guess (until my next official guess), cobbled together from all the evidence, actions, money, players involved, and statements made: You've given them too much credit. SQ42 never leaves the cryengine editor.
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Happy Sisyphus posted:okay, time for everyone in the thread to reveal which CIG employee they are, this has been a fun 'forums criticism simulation' exercise, I AM SMARTACUS!
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A story where D Smart is the hero, what a time to be alive.
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Sandweed posted:A story where D Smart is the hero, what a time to be alive. He's not the hero we wanted but maybe the one we deserve?
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Gilganixon posted:I've been wondering just one thing, why are you doing this here? Don't get me wrong, I think this whole thing's fantastic and I've gained a huge amount of respect for you but you haven't always got along with the goonpile. What changed to make you want to bring this here and not to any other pit of the internet full of equally depraved monsters who would just as cheerfully watch SC burn down? I get asked that a lot. And the answer remains the same. Unlike other forums (which I don't visit anymore because I don't like being harassed amid the noise) where this farce is taking center stage, the fact that SA is self-policed, not a hug box, is critical to the decimation of information. You goof, someone's going to rip you a new one. On the spot. You excel, someone's going to notice it, and say something. Here, you get to take the hits and misses in stride. Of course it helps that the level of humor is so pervasive that the common man will have a hard time deciding whether or not that spaghetti sauce recipe is somehow telling you it's laced with arsenic - because who looks at an SA recipe and decides to go cook it? With a straight face? Without somehow wondering if it's poison. I mean, nothing as innocent as that, slides by without someone thinking twice about it. And when you have to sift through pages and pages of recipes, you become self-aware, hardly noticing that, just few pages back, someone was doing an effort post about the suicidal tendencies of people spending thousands on JPEG ships. The SA forums have always - to me - been that closet at your old house. You grow up, but still have the memories. Then once in awhile, you drive by to see how the house is doing. Then one day the new owners happen to be home. You knock on the door to say hi. They greet you, and ask you in. Then promptly knock you out, and toss you in the closet, just for shits 'n giggles. And go make tea. And offer you some. As if nothing happened. You're sitting there, still slightly stunned - drinking tea. And wondering just how hosed up the new residents are. Just like the old ones.
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Happy Sisyphus posted:okay, time for everyone in the thread to reveal which CIG employee they are, this has been a fun 'forums criticism simulation' exercise, im the hot chick with the big boobies holding the laptop around a bunch of loser nerds playing tabletop game
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Iglocska posted:find starcitizen/ -name '*' -exec cat {} \; > oneliner.lol took me like two minutes to understand that joke totally worth it though ...how 'bout you stop bashing Chris's life's work
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D_Smart posted:The SA forums have always - to me - been that closet at your old house. this is the weirdest goddamn analogy about any online community i've ever read in my life and i question whether you may have suffered a previous life of abuse
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Iridium posted:this is the weirdest goddamn analogy about any online community i've ever read in my life and i question whether you may have suffered a previous life of abuse same
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 Derek, that is the best explanation of SA possible. Tea?
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:took me like two minutes to understand that joke rofl 
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Iridium posted:this is the weirdest goddamn analogy about any online community i've ever read in my life and i question whether you may have suffered a previous life of abuse
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Resonates with me. E: vvv I think that might be the fifth stimpire.
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Sandweed posted:A story where D Smart is the hero, what a time to be alive. Imagine, just imagine for a moment... after the cataclysmic collapse of this all, D_Smart taking over as new god_emperor of CIG, renames it SIG, and produces a halfway usable game out of it. Just imagine the self-loathing of the whales who will find themselves forced to play this game out of sunk-cost-fallacy induced shame. Isnt it beautiful?
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Yolomon Wayne posted:Imagine, just imagine for a moment... after the cataclysmic collapse of this all, D_Smart taking over as new god_emperor of CIG, renames it SIG, and produces a halfway usable game out of it. It wouldn't be the first time he salvaged a failed project and made something halfway usable out of it. Except I think the last time taught him a valuable lesson about inheriting technical debt.
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It's amazing and horrible to me that the focus of their ire is still on a backer they banned from their forums making them look ridiculous. Beer didn't even have to try, and even now he's continuing to own them without even having to do anything. They're jumping up on their expensive tables and waving their arms around over something their idiot backers don't even believe is real. It's just unfathomable to me that they'd look away from all these people, their backers actually stirring to be angry and going "Nah it's fine let's ignore them." It's just as Beer said earlier. Trust is not something you can easily get back once you've started to lose it. Blind faith is near impossible to regain once you've violated that trust, and it's all self-inflicted wounding at this point. Kakarot posted:I better move my money from Star Citizen to Lego Invest in the karma for Chris cause it's gonna be underfoot someday 
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D_Smart posted:Problem is that a LOT of people are VERY upset about how the development and company are going, but can't say/do anything about it. Worst of all? Their actions have made it such that outside of a very small group of people, most are happy to spill the beans. Why? Because of how they are being treated, how the company is handling the project, and the direction that the project is going in. It is an amazing thing when you are privy to insider (being an employee, contractor or whatever) information, while seeing the public facing bullshit the company is peddling. Anyone with a sliver of conscience is going to remember all those things; while keeping their head down and pulling a pay check for as long as possible. And when you run a project in which 500+ people have been a part of it at some point or another and been made privy to dodgy things, now you have a problem with leaks. People WILL talk. People ARE talking. And it's about to get a whole lot worse.
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I just realized that Roberts is just using the same scam that Mel Brooks had in "The Producers": Get more investor money than you could ever truly need for a production, make that production flop in the cheapest way possible, pocket the money since every investor counts it as a loss for the production being bad. Except with all the dumb decisions made, this will actually flop.
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thank mr spaceship This thread. Holy poo poo. The brown sea in revolt, an insider posting in the thread, Derek with his hand on a trigger. 
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Haha I fuckin love that analogy, then again I've been here on and off for ugh 13 years. I like dark tea unsweetened please!
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Scruffpuff posted:It wouldn't be the first time he salvaged a failed project and made something halfway usable out of it. Except I think the last time taught him a valuable lesson about inheriting technical debt. "failed project" doesnt play in the same league as this. It doesnt play the same game, and it does so on a different planet. He is the arch-enemy of the people who would then have to decide to either play HIS game, or not play their dream come true at all.
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Rhubarb94 posted:Derek I really hope you randomly add and subtract numbers whenever you say things like that, they may be playing office guess who and narrowing down the possible names. Loose lips sink ships. Yup. Those are hypothetical numbers to give an idea of the predicament I'm in, related to my sources. And it's one of the major things holding up my much delayed Dec blog. 
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HiHo ChiRho posted:I just realized that Roberts is just using the same scam that Mel Brooks had in "The Producers": Get more investor money than you could ever truly need for a production, make that production flop in the cheapest way possible, pocket the money since every investor counts it as a loss for the production being bad. Except with all the dumb decisions made, this will actually flop. STARRING BEN LESNICK AS 
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Wow, I expected poo poo to hit the fan but not this soon obviously. I think Derek is right and it will be a miracle if they last until December 2016. It is only January and they have already been starting to teeter in the eyes of their mentally retarded fans. To us, the garbage dump is on fire, has grown to epic proportions and is going to ignite the methane from the rot that has been going on for years. The tell alls from what happened will be legend. It makes me, like others, want to pen something about it. I do think that someone will end up in jail or at least pennieless. Like Chris being in a refrigerator box doing hand gestures to no one on the street. You simply cannot take 100 million of people's money, use it on poo poo that they did not give it to you for and simply expect the government not to notice. Videogame or not. Kickstarters have already been punished for doing so. The FTC will go after them for it. Someone mentioned the guys doing Battletech and they have already taken subtle digs at Roberts. Elite doesn't bother because its very existence is a dig at him, with Roberts copying their every move. As for what is the worst, there are a couple of things I can think of. - The baby PU is done. It will never get improved or go beyond what it is. When they considered it a large chunk finished, they meant it. - More motion capture re-shoots with expensive actors. - Elite will release a character creator soon and now Roberts wants one. - Squadron 42 will no longer have gameplay and is just a movie or will be akin to a telltale game - Focusing on cosmetics for sale that Chris is micro managing - The game is going free to play with microtransactions - They are planning to flee to a non extradition country - Something so frivolous and stupid that I cannot even imagine it. Cargo stacking, drink mini game, a tourism ship with movies, scrapping and redoing a lot of ships, the 37 clothing lines, adding eating and drinking and making GBS threads. And at the end of the day, people will realize Derek Smart was right all along. I cannot imagine how much that will burn some people.
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Yolomon Wayne posted:Imagine, just imagine for a moment... after the cataclysmic collapse of this all, D_Smart taking over as new god_emperor of CIG, renames it SIG, and produces a halfway usable game out of it. It would be best if he did the voice acting and face for all ships computers and station mission/trade consoles, also mo-cap him in as the flight instructor. Force the whales to follow orders from Derek or fail every mission.
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Skellybones posted:I wonder if Gillian Anderson will put this on her resume. This whole project was part of the viral marketing for the X-Files relaunch.
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EightAce posted:- I know what they are currently concentrating on , it is simply unbelievable . I cant say what it is for obvious reasons but it is up there with the farming module. talk about fiddling while Rome burns ..... In my head, the thing you're referring to here is the 10 hours of SQ42 cutscenes. It's the stupidest thing I can imagine concentrating on, and fits perfectly with fiddling. That said, I know somehow they will surprise me and it will be something even more stupid. In my darkest fantasies, I'm picturing SQ42 being released as an FMV/QTE game. Then, that's it, nothing more is ever released, none of the existing releases are ever upgraded or improved again, the whole operation just goes belly-up.
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Scruffpuff posted:This whole project was part of the viral marketing for the X-Files relaunch.  This, but with the star citizen jpeg
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Dapper Dan posted:
i do have to wonder about this. going by their recent refund refusal emails it seems they are angling for donations aspect of crowdfunding, or was that just the true believers saying that? i cant even tell the difference anymore.
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Scruffpuff posted:This whole project was part of the viral marketing for the X-Files relaunch. I literally thought this earlier. She's the FBI agent involved.
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D_Smart posted:I have a third meeting with the Feds on Feb 3rd, and another with State officials on Feb 17th. That is all. Is the Fed agent Dana Scully? e;fb
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Rhubarb94 posted:It would be best if he did the voice acting and face for all ships computers and station mission/trade consoles, also mo-cap him in as the flight instructor. Just Derek's voice going LANDING GEAR UP CONTACT CONTACT CONTACT forever and ever.
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