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mrking posted:what are your opinions on Someone promise to get all of the Sandi cut scenes in S42 over to me and I will make something glorious (if it comes out)
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if - as eightace said - they havent even got a single playable campaign mission ready for SQ42, surely they are going to have to do additional motion capture sessions. every time i think even remotely halfway about this as a project in development i start grinning internally at what an utter catastrophic disaster it is. and the best is yet to come! what a great year to be alive and also not have money invested in star citizen alf_pogs fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Jan 29, 2016 |
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By far the most unbelievable thing posted so far in this thread is that somehow MWO is kind of fun to play now.
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alf_pogs posted:if - as eightace said - they havent even got a single playable campaign mission ready for SQ42, surely they are going to have to do additional motion capture sessions. I have this nagging feeling that the grand finale of this adventure will be that they're unable to properly utilize the motion capture material that they've already captured. Either by something being off with the models or it simply not fitting when they attempt to adapt it into the actual game which they haven't made yet. I don't know much about much. But I feel like you're asking for trouble when you do a bunch of motion capture work and then try to build a game around it. Unless everything they shot is seriously just going to be FMV videos like in the old days through the filter of animation.
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Avalanche posted:Assuming Ben lives on the west side of LA, how the gently caress is he so loving fat? How the gently caress is he getting fatter? Santa Monica/west side is so affluent you can sometimes find bums with gym memberships to Equinox gyms. Even if you just walk outside for 10min and look at people, you start feeling like you need to go to the gym or run or loving do something immediately.  People have been saying Ben's more natural on AtV than Sandy, but he's not really. After scanning through a few videos of this for gifables you'll see how he's got a very limited set of emotes mostly involving waving hands and flapping arms, and it's probably his entire exercise at this point. Didn't Ben get his hands exclusively on some assets when Origin kicked the bucket? Then sat on them and distributed them to those chosen by him? Imagine CIG folds and Chris gives Ben this big stack of hard drives with jpges and poo poo, and then Ben becomes the head priest and starts showing a few pictures and 20 seconds of video once a year. All to keep the dream going till CR comes back so that everyone is ready.
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DigitalMocking posted:By far the most unbelievable thing posted so far in this thread is that somehow MWO is kind of fun to play now. It's a crazy time we live in. Up is down and blue is a number. But it's true. MWO is actually fun and good. Except the new map. gently caress the new map.
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Thronde posted:It's a crazy time we live in. Up is down and blue is a number. But it's true. MWO is actually fun and good. Except the new map. gently caress the new map. Stockholm syndrome is a hell of a thing
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alf_pogs posted:if - as eightace said - they havent even got a single playable campaign mission ready for SQ42, surely they are going to have to do additional motion capture sessions. I wondered about this too. Presumably they won't be able to afford to drag the likes of Oldman, Serkis, Anderson, Hamill etc back into the studio to do more scenes so I guess as SQ42 plays out it will be populated by increasingly generic Sandi-calibre unknown ex-CSI Miami actors. I'm half expecting to see Michael Biehn pop up.
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Kilmers Elbow posted:I wondered about this too.
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A Neurotic Jew posted:https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/6302760/#Comment_6302760 Supreme Leader Roberts cannot fail, he can only be failed--if the backers had really deserved a Thousand Year Space Sim, they would not have been so weak.
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Darkpriest667 posted:How the hell are you more ignored than I am? I think I have about ten or so ignores myself. I'd ignore you, but every time I look at your fedora, I feel good about myself.
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You know who else was stationed in Santa Monica and had a sister studio overseas who they farmed out all of the major programming to? Stellar Studios who made Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing. Think about it.
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jesus christ, you know how I am spamming them with bogus support tickets? I kid you not, they actually replied to a few of them and after a back and forth I actually got them to give me a Javelin hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha how much are they selling for on Reddit? I wanna sell it for half as much just to tank prices
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SeldomSeen posted:This thread has inspired me. I got a rescue cat so I can read this thread while petting him and laughing my rear end off. Good to know I'm not the only one feeling uncomfortably catless as a result of the thread. Maybe when SC judgement day happens I'll adopt a cat to celebrate
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grimcreaper posted:I wonder what Linus thinks about the current Star Citizen stuff going on. They have some money in it. They have two Star Citizen posters up!  I also uncovered a conspiracy!
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hakimashou posted:hey pgabz The thing I like about developers that take their time to do things right is all the nice touches they can add, these hidden Easter eggs really add to the long term appeal of the game.
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ZenMaster posted:You know who else was stationed in Santa Monica and had a sister studio overseas who they farmed out all of the major programming to? how does the current PU stack up to that game in terms of quality, anyway?
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HookedOnChthonics posted:Supreme Leader Roberts cannot fail, he can only be failed--if the backers had really deserved a Thousand Year Space Sim, they would not have been so weak. Are there any "Hitler finds out" videos revolving Star Citizen or Derek Smart? At the airport so can't really check right now.
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ZenMaster posted:You know who else was stationed in Santa Monica and had a sister studio overseas who they farmed out all of the major programming to?
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ZenMaster posted:You know who else was stationed in Santa Monica and had a sister studio overseas who they farmed out all of the major programming to? pre:| Big Rigs | Star Citizen No AI | X | X Big cargo haulers | X | X Wonky physics | X | X Bad collision detection | X | X Persistence | | Faster than light travel| X | X Iglocska fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Jan 29, 2016 |
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Honestly there's no guarantee that a squig brain wouldn't improve me. Not when your the bloody driver! All that asides, the use of b the 'verse as a term is very loving jarring. Way to rip off Firefly Cig. Just because you can't provide on your own 'content' does not make ok to steal others.
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SelenicMartian posted:The speed limits are different. True, you can keep accelerating without any artificial limitation in Big Rigs. Is Big Rigs a better space sim than Star Citizen?
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Hitler Bunker Scene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N2OAC2hFTE ? Also Xaerael posted:Lesnick is some kind of bizarre Ouroboros living in an impossible world where even though he can't touch his toes, he's constantly has his foot in his mouth. Raskolnikov fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Jan 29, 2016 |
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Avalanche posted:Assuming Ben lives on the west side of LA, how the gently caress is he so loving fat? How the gently caress is he getting fatter? Santa Monica/west side is so affluent you can sometimes find bums with gym memberships to Equinox gyms. Even if you just walk outside for 10min and look at people, you start feeling like you need to go to the gym or run or loving do something immediately. No joke he is probably under a lot of stress at work and is eating his emotions to help cope with that. Also a lot of people are not properly educated on how to feed themselves and don't know how to dig themselves out of the hole they are in, or where to look ask for help if they are actually in trouble. Ben if you're reading this go see a doctor and have an open discussion about your weight and what simple steps you can take to correct your path before it becomes too late. I still don't know why Sandi is such a bitch though.
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Justin Tyme posted:you forgot they both have faster-than-light travel Updated!
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ZenMaster posted:You know who else was stationed in Santa Monica and had a sister studio overseas who they farmed out all of the major programming to? I really love how Star Citizen has stayed true to Big Rigs and is truly Big Rigs in Space.
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Nemo2342 posted:Part of me wants to put you on ignore, so that you can continue to climb the ranks. But then I'd miss your spinny elephant and your amusing shitposts, so I don't. How can anyone with a heart ignore Eonwe?  That'd be like ignoring pgabz. A world without dancing cats and spinning elephants isn't a world I want to live in.
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i look forward to citizens blaming the collapse on everything but the breakdown in project management
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 Remember back when you thought buying 4 spaceships at $600 each was a good way to make money? That was a bit before you decided to buy 2 other spaceships at $350 each. 
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phosdex posted:how will Robber actually get his movie distributed? you pretty much need one of the big hollywood studios to back you right unless you're just shooting for z-list status? Hey, z-list would be an upgrade for Crobber.
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SelenicMartian posted:Didn't Ben get his hands exclusively on some assets when Origin kicked the bucket? Then sat on them and distributed them to those chosen by him? The pick and choose wankery came from two competing Privateer fan remakes where he decided one team over the other deserved the original 3D files for the station backgrounds. He used his exclusive holder of the source to lord over WCNews and he was pretty reviled well before SC got going. quote:Assuming Ben lives on the west side of LA, how the gently caress is he so loving fat? How the gently caress is he getting fatter? As the mood at CIG has gotten worse and worse no doubt seeing people get fired or Sandi push through the ranks to explode at someone hasn't helped one bit. Not to mention the sheer dissatisfaction of finally working with your idol only to find out he's nowhere the visionary you'd hope he'd be, a bad and lazy communicator and so distant that he has his decisions overridden by his wife without him knowing. (No surprise if that actually happened.) Plus having to bear the ire of others as critical staff get fired while you can sit on a sofa and stream your junk food addiction while watching Star Wars weighs on his concious. Mo-crap Mo-cap isn't new to games - but it's still used sparingly as it's tough to manage. Most games only really use it under controlled circumstances, like a cutscene over player driven animation, as it presents more variables than you really would want and requires a tight ship to use effectively. This is where your RnD before starting is crucial in setting out your rules and regulations to get a smooth pipeline. One small fuckup in a multi-asset hand-over environment really wastes everyone's time. And claiming "well it's not my job" isn't a valid answer. The bad quality seen so far is indicative that no one is communicating with each other to help fix problems and no one knows what to do. I can easily see how Mo-cap can cause endless nightmares as the CryEngine documentation pretty much paints it as a dark art, especially in the cleanup phase where they warn you, repeatedly, that hours of work will be lost if something goes wrong. They also say one mo-cap format does not fit all so if CIG are using multiple production houses at some point they would possibly have had been forced to reshoot owing to translation issues from different capture systems refusing to play nice. Mo-cap is really really fiddily - most animators use it for reference over hand animation as it captures all of the subtleties that are hard to match by hand. Compare it to keyframe animation where you set points of motion across a timeline and the computer calculates the tween. Easy to change as you can simply move that one keyframe. Mocap records continuously so every frame is a keyframe. If you need to change something you are in for a ton of wrangling and messing about as you can't simply delete a bad frame - the system will try and tween to compensate and given one keyframe is a ton of variables. It's also much more taxing to play back as that's 24 frames of data a second the game engine has to consider - try syncing that over a server. To break it down a bit more; you record a motion then attach it to a model's skeleton. The model and skeleton have to be designed in accordance to the mo-cap data for a smooth fit. So does your solider have enough polys to bend an arm without tearing for instance, will adding a mocap where the character does jumping jacks mean you have to then remodel and re-rig to fix this issue? Can the skeleton be articulated enough to accept a wide range of movement data or does it need more points for something not included in the default rig? In any setup you have to manually pin the mo-cap data to the skeleton, this is where major flaws can present itself as an incorrect assignment on the wrong part can mean the mocap data rotates the wrong thing. It's why I suspect the lip synch looks so bad on the Paaarpman speech as the in-game head cannot support the same level of polygon fidelity as recorded by a capture system meant for a motion picture, so they were forced to rip out a bunch of points and made him look like a robot with a stroke. Another factor to keep in mind (especially with FPS games) in a smooth transition between various sub-animations of limbs - say running while aiming and so on. If these sequences have a drastic shift in coordinates then things will get messy or choppy if keyframes are too sudden. Have a look at the dodgy Star Marine teaser video of the cover animation. You'll see something wasn't setup right and the arm movement is causing the elbow pad to rotate as the model comes in and out of character. Oh and I haven't mentioned match moving the mocap characters to move properly in the game environments. I wonder if they forget to convert imperial to metric when working across studios. Beyond that you have secondary animations, props and clothing to deal with - most things like guns can just be stuck onto the hand but items like helmets being put on usually require lots of chicanery and additional custom animations that have to slot in over the top of a mocap animation that have to synch and not look out of place. tl;dr - SQ42's dev team are so in the deep purely from having to deal with mocap alone they are barely going to have anything on time.
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Of course it's nonsense, but how can cro have his movie without mocap? As it stands, SC is full of capably made art assets that only work well as static objects because *someone* won't compromise.
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Avalanche posted:Assuming Ben lives on the west side of LA, how the gently caress is he so loving fat? How the gently caress is he getting fatter? Santa Monica/west side is so affluent you can sometimes find bums with gym memberships to Equinox gyms. Even if you just walk outside for 10min and look at people, you start feeling like you need to go to the gym or run or loving do something immediately. Ben, if you're reading this, please check out the YLLS forums. They have some pretty sound weightlifting advice.
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