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Hal Incandenza posted:I'm here, let's play this game. I would voting spacing or imgay, with Kashuno as a distant third. What's with the sudden fixation on me? My vote on you was a joke, and so was the temporary tourettes, but I did have some real content yesterday. I'm lurkier than usual d1 but I've got some stupid RL poo poo going on and it's been hard to get into this game. Also TMM asking everyone to read you: why? Why do you constantly need to be the center of attention? I don't have any good reads right now, except that I hate everything and have to go to work soon. Are the votes on imgay serious? This is going to sound hypocritical, but yesterday when I got into the slap fight with tmm I thought, dammit, I'm just making it worse, this is going to further distract the thread. So on a reread, Sam and Rarity both stand out to me for keeping that mess going. Which, as I said, I did, too, but I can't loving let things drop when I should. Kash gets a pass here because the TMM/kash slap fight is a regular occurrence and appears to be alignment neutral.
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spacing in vienna posted:What's with the sudden fixation on me? My vote on you was a joke, and so was the temporary tourettes, but I did have some real content yesterday. I'm lurkier than usual d1 but I've got some stupid RL poo poo going on and it's been hard to get into this game. There actually is a reason and it has nothing to do with wanting to be the center of attention. I've been debating on when I should make an announcement/give the reason, but I think I'll wait a little bit longer.
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TMMadman posted:There actually is a reason and it has nothing to do with wanting to be the center of attention. I've been debating on when I should make an announcement/give the reason, but I think I'll wait a little bit longer. Oh. I'm sorry, I'm cranky and thought that was just another "hey everyone, please continue to focus on me" sort of moment. If there's a grander purpose to it, that makes me lean more town on you. Sorry to make you tip your hand early?
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TMMadman posted:There actually is a reason and it has nothing to do with wanting to be the center of attention. I've been debating on when I should make an announcement/give the reason, but I think I'll wait a little bit longer. these soft claims bother me.
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spacing in vienna posted:Oh. I'm sorry, I'm cranky and thought that was just another "hey everyone, please continue to focus on me" sort of moment. If there's a grander purpose to it, that makes me lean more town on you. Sorry to make you tip your hand early? You didn't really tip my hand. I was hoping there would be more action after I asked people to make an alignment call on me. If there had been, I would have made my announcement while getting ready for work this morning. I'll just start working on the post now since I'm on my phone and it needs a few quotes.
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TMMadman posted:Can't we all just get along? TMMadman posted:Over a simple question? TMMadman posted:Perhaps we should all just calm down. So as you can see above, I'm the cop. When I got my role PM, I knew I would have to claim on D1 because lately I've been the N1 kill due to my play style. Since there are only 2 scum and both have NKs, I figured claiming was the best chance I had to survive N1 and be able to provide some kind of benefit to town. I'm assuming there is a doctor out there and whoever it is absolutely needs to protect me tonight. So I asked for people to read me to try and determine who I want to cop tonight. I think the lynch should probably be one of imgay, Rarity or Samfu. Imgay seems to be trying to taunt a cop investigation and that doesn't sit right with me. Samfu was the third vote at an opportunistic time and has stuck with his poor reasoning to keep his vote there. And I made my case against Rarity earlier. Another issue with Rarity is that she tried to say that the game needs to breathe, but with 2 scum NKs there really isn't time to let the game move slowly. So there you go, all my cards are on the table.
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Jan 29, 2016 20:53
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TM, which games have you been killed N1 in?
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Jan 29, 2016 21:00
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Not that I'm necessarily doubting you, I just suspect that was an incredibly boneheaded move.
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Jan 29, 2016 21:01
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Yeah, pretty sure Rarity is scum now. Just look at that response. It's not a bone headed move. It's the only move I could make that gives me the best chance to survive N1 and provide town with a cop investigation. I was the N1 kill in sedatefia and I was poisoned on N1 in the binding of Isaac game. It doesn't happen all the time, but my choice is claim and hopefully live through the night or not claim and most likely not live through the night.
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Jan 29, 2016 21:09
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Remember with 2 NKs, this game goes into lylo on D3 unless a scum gets lynched D1 or D2. So it's a pure numbers game and thus claiming cop when there is most likely a doctor is the best available play.
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Jan 29, 2016 21:11
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Also by claiming now, I can hopefully provide some insight into the scum teams makeup. If I end up dying in the night then the scum most likely have a juggernaut. And if I live but can't get a cop investigation and there is only 1 kill then they most likely have a roleblocker.
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Jan 29, 2016 21:13
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I think that was a v bad claim and I don't believe it at all. You are under no pressure right now and claiming cop d1 is the least town play a cop can make.
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Jan 29, 2016 21:15
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Lol Kash. It's a 3 day game. Claiming now is the best available move when I believe I am most likely to be killed on N1.
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Jan 29, 2016 21:19
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Kash is a notorious idiot tho
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Also Kash, your post really makes me want to rethink my town read on you. Given the events of the College Mafia game, you of all people know I don't lie about my D1 claims.
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Jan 29, 2016 21:23
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Dude, you need to get over yourself. Mafia games don't revolve around you.
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Never said they did. And you keep making posts but still haven't given a single read. I thought you are replacing out, so why do you care?
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Jan 29, 2016 21:33
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TMMadman posted:Also Kash, your post really makes me want to rethink my town read on you. Given the events of the College Mafia game, you of all people know I don't lie about my D1 claims. prior games != this game and you know that, stop setting up a false flag here. TMMadman posted:Never said they did. that's some real d-bag poo poo right there tho
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Jan 29, 2016 21:36
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imgay posted:Kash is a notorious idiot tho 
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Jan 29, 2016 21:36
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For real though your setup spec stuff is crazy and there is absolutely no world where a d1 cop claim is beneficial to town.
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also it seems interesting how inflammatory you are to people who aren't even voting you just because they don't trust your strange claim
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Jan 29, 2016 21:39
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Kashuno posted:prior games != this game and you know that, stop setting up a false flag here. So you're going to go down that route again? Once again, if I haven't lied about a D1 claim yet then why should you assume that this is when I would start lying? If she is replacing out then she shouldn't really be making plays in the game. If she is staying in the game then I'll apologize.
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Kash, stop and think about it. I only get 2 investigations if I'm lucky and chances are that one of the investigation targets will die on one of the nights anyway, possibly both. Claiming is absolutely without a doubt the best move I could make.
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Jan 29, 2016 21:42
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I only commented cause I'm tired of your overimportant self-aggrandising bullshit and I can't be hosed to not call you out on it.
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Jan 29, 2016 21:44
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TMMadman posted:So you're going to go down that route again? Once again, if I haven't lied about a D1 claim yet then why should you assume that this is when I would start lying? why should I assume this is the game you won't start lying? TMMadman posted:Kash, stop and think about it. I only get 2 investigations if I'm lucky and chances are that one of the investigation targets will die on one of the nights anyway, possibly both. Highly disagree. If true, you have outed a town power role with very little pressure on you, for no gain. It is not advantageous to town at all to have a cop claim so early. Assuming town has a doctor, scum can now safely assume that you are going to draw power role protection tonight and spend their two NKs elsewhere on the chance you hit scum tonight. You will go into d2 not dead, with two other townies dead in that scenario and unless you bag scum for sure you are in a very serious position of being the lynch and forcing town to test your claim. If you do hit scum, you have to hope town believe you. If there is no doctor, or the doctor doesn't believe you and chooses to shield elsewhere, you can die. If there is a jugg, you die. There is no outcome where your claim is an intelligent play, sorry.
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I mean hell, it's not exactly hard right now to figure out who you're going to cop tonight if you aren't lynched.
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What the hell TMM. I go to class for an hour and come back to this. I'm not sure how you thought people were gonna respond to this.
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Jan 29, 2016 21:57
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D1 cop claim under no pressure, wowie zowie.
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Kashuno posted:I mean hell, it's not exactly hard right now to figure out who you're going to cop tonight if you aren't lynched. You think I'm going to get lynched without a counterclaim? And one of those catches scum anyway. And who I cop tonight is entirely up in the air. There will be 10 possible targets for me to cop tonight and I'm considering all of them.
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Sorry, Asiina
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TMMadman posted:There will be 10 possible targets for me to cop tonight and I'm considering all of them. Lol
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9 targets doofus
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btw ##vote hal dude is scum incarnate
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imgay posted:9 targets doofus Lol. Math is hard and I forgot to subtract myself from the equation. 
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sounds like a scumslip to me
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Samfucius posted:What the hell TMM. I go to class for an hour and come back to this.  
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Kash, it's really funny how hard you are trying to discredit my claim.
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TMMadman posted:Kash, it's really funny how hard you are trying to discredit my claim. I'm not trying to discredit so much as discuss mafia theory and how this is a bad idea to claim for many reasons but hey keep getting defensive 
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sorry I don't immediately buy a d1 under almost no pressure cop claim from someone who uses personal meta and the lack of a d1 cop counterclaim as a boon to their case brah
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TMMadman posted:Kash, it's really funny how hard you are trying to discredit my claim. Kash I am really annoyed but couching my language about how I made a bad move and you called me out on it.
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