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Ur Getting Fatter posted:installed the linux When's this Mac refresh so I can hop on the brew train?
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macs do not brick if the efi variable space is >50% full (that was a sarnsung laptop bug). nor do they brick if you "sudo rm -rf /" (*). theres plenty of poo poo wrong with apples efi but these particular fails do not exist in apple land also slowclap for everyone trying to defend this bit of systemd * these days that wont even get you the satisfaction of blowing away your os x, though it should still flense off the home dirs. el capitan prevents even root from modifying system files, part of apple's defense-in-depth system security design (**) ** speaking of which and speaking of lennart poettering, he is the king of noticing that apple is doing something intelligent to unix system design many years after it's old news, and providing his own version in linux, only with lots of initial bugs, a massive case of bikeshedding, and second-system-syndrome-by-proxy (hence the btrfs obsession mr. dog correctly suspects will lead to pain and suffering). i can only imagine the  solution he'll think up for an equivalent to rootless 
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so in a way using osx is like having a bleeding edge version of things linux will have a broken version of in 10-20 years
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pram posted:so in a way using osx is like having a bleeding edge version of things linux will have a broken version of in 10-20 years like sound and wi-fi
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Cocoa Crispies posted:like sound and wi-fi Probably a gigantic misleading exaggeration to say Apple has "working" wifi
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broken clock opsec posted:Probably a gigantic misleading exaggeration to say Apple has "working" wifi  
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Mr Dog posted:systemd is extremely ftw but i'm not going to blindly assume that everything poettering does is great lol that first link was benchmarking postgres without nocow, and then brushing off that it worked nicely if you just enabled it. it's not weird at all that cow is slow when used for dbs. and that second link whines about the same, and systemd fixed it a long time ago by automatically setting the dirs as nocow btrfs owns, unfortunately you have to janitor it a bit if you run applications that appends a lot of data to files, e.g. vm, db and logservers
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Tankakern posted:lol that first link was benchmarking postgres without nocow, and then brushing off that it worked nicely if you just enabled it. lol at the idea that nocow is a worthwhile thing to use on a filesystem where the cow is the whole point also you didn't read very close he tested other cow filesystems with cow turned on and they were way better
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Smythe posted:my ubuntu gnome has owned and been insanely stable cept for 2 bugs: the official Linux way is to have cron restart cups every five minutes.
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ratbert90 posted:I used reiserfs back in the day.
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computer toucher posted:the official Linux way is to have cron restart cups every five minutes. cups is an apple product
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:cups is an apple product from what I can tell you also have to restart cups a lot on os x so it's consistent behavior at least
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ratbert90 posted:I used reiserfs back in the day. gentoo install guide  when's reiser4 coming out
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I used reiserfs on the postop
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mods pls make a murderfs gang tag
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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blowfish posted:mods pls make a murderfs gang tag
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blowfish posted:mods pls make a murderfs gang tag source material: 
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I used jfs before and it worked fine idk why it wasn't more popular TBH I mainly just use ext4 now, unexciting filesystem is fine by me
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xfs is the coolest sounding. hopefully you all factor this into your decisions
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Progressive JPEG posted:I used jfs before and it worked fine idk why it wasn't more popular nobody was actively working on it. linux jfs was ported from microkernel os/2 aka "workplace OS," a project IBM abandoned before the first release. it never really had a hope.
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pram posted:xfs is the coolest sounding. hopefully you all factor this into your decisions xfs is recommended by red hat
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:xfs is recommended by red hat recommended way to lose your data when the system crashes* *my knowledge of xfs is from like 15 years ago
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The Management posted:recommended way to lose your data when the system crashes* pc hardware has gotten better since then. all common scenarios allow for write barriers, limiting the potential for data loss under xfs. (the uncommon scenario is software raid5/raid6, in which case you're screwed with or without XFS. buy a ups with the money you saved by avoiding hardware raid w/ battery backed cache.)
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accidentally delete the efi partition? sounds like linux is too powerful for you
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that doesn't mean it should be mounted read/write at any time other than specifically when changing or in a way that's accessible to anything other than a very strictly limited process that only makes the required changes and can touch nothing else
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loving up your computer irreparably is all part of the learning experience
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Phoenixan posted:loving up your computer irreparably is all part of the learning experience and people said systemd didnt fit the unix philosophy
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:cups is an apple product So is my iPhone but if I drop it in the toilet and piss on it it's going to have performance issues.
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I really wanted to like Linux back in the day and got it working pretty well and then came the day when it told me there's a distro upgrade available and I was like "sure, what's the harm?" three days later I was back in Windows which didn't stutter when doing such intensive tasks as dragging windows on the desktop. Now I like Linux where it belongs: on a headless server in the Netherlands.
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Listen folks: aside from mechanical issues, I need the printer to work 100% of the time.
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Smythe posted:Listen folks: aside from mechanical issues, I need the printer to work 100% of the time. the gently caress are you messing around in Linux then?
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Progressive JPEG posted:gentoo install guide I also used Gentoo My first distribution was Slackware 4, followed by, lfs, Redhat (before it forked into Fedora), Mandrake, Debian, Gentoo, and then eventually settling on Fedora for the desktop and Cent for the servers. I also liked JFS. 
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Smythe posted:Listen folks: aside from mechanical issues, I need the printer to work 100% of the time. i'll fix it for you smythe, what's your ip address and root password?
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Smythe posted:Listen folks: aside from mechanical issues, I need the printer to work 100% of the time. my printer on fedora works 100% of the time
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I remember when you'd get a box of 3.5in disks with the 386BSD system on them and another box with X11R4 and another couple boxes with the sources because you mailed someone a few bucks to buy a bunch of disks and make you a copy there wasn't a "distro" there was an OS and even after this Finnish kid who had no idea what he was doing together a simple kernel and put it atop the V7 filesystem and started passing it around there was still just an OS don't know what possessed people to use his over BSD though, except maybe the original 387 or Adaptec 1542 SCSI requirements that 386BSD had, both of those were done away with plenty quick though
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