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TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

Friction.123 posted:

Technically its 25% :eng101:

Why is everyone looking at me like that?

obvs u don't know ur kashuno odds v well

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imgay
May 12, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
It's all in good fun, please don't take any insults personally.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer

imgay posted:

It's all in good fun, please don't take any insults personally.

You're the worst mafia player ever and I wish you'd stop playing.

You drag every game you're in down.

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

Asiina posted:

You're the worst mafia player ever and I wish you'd stop playing.

You drag every game you're in down.

this but jokingly

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

we will go far into the sea
you will take me
onto your back
never look back
never look back

Tommunist posted:

also lol callin me kid lmao ur probs like 12 or something and have abed time

Thought that said abed time (like from community) for way too long.

This is also a confirming post

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

AnonymousNarcotics posted:

Thought that said abed time (like from community) for way too long.

This is also a confirming post

yo vote kashuno lets lynch scum

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
or don't i mean its all chill

ahahah
ahha

ha

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
i watched an eps of the new community and it didn't have abed in it now i just can't do it anymore

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Tommunist posted:

ugh





















league

Rugby league is a piece of poo poo

imgay
May 12, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Asiina posted:

You're the worst mafia player ever and I wish you'd stop playing.

You drag every game you're in down.

This cut deep man, I'm prone to depression too

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

Captain Foo posted:

Rugby league is a piece of poo poo

agreed

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Asiina posted:

You're the worst mafia player ever and I wish you'd stop playing.

You drag every game you're in down.

hail Satan quoting for truth beyond truth

no truer post has ever been posted

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'


confirmed towN poster right here folks

TheCog
Jul 30, 2012

I AM ZEPA AND I CLAIM THESE LANDS BY RIGHT OF CONQUEST
##Vote: AnonymousNarcotics

Actually, I'm considering something. I think the town might benefit from a mass claim.
We have, 5 power roles, 6 backups, 5 scum

If everyone claims POWER or NO POWER, we get 5 confirmed townies, 11 unconfirmed, of which 5 are mafia. If we lynch into that pool, we have high odds of hitting scum. Just under 50% in fact. It also forces scum to aim their kills at the people who claimed POWER, which means that the medic and bp are likely to be even more useful.

So after day 1, lets assume we lynch town. Two shots into power roles, lets assume both hit and kill. That leaves us 3 confirmed townies, 10 unconfirmed. BUT WAIT. The new promotes then claim. Suddenly we have, 5 confirmed town, 8 unconfirmed, of which 5 are mafia. That gives us 5/8 odds of hitting scum. 62.5% odds, not counting the fact that we have potential cop saves, potential lives saved from the medic suddenly having a much higher chance of protecting right (because if scum shoot into the NOT POWER pool, they just hurt themselves) AND if we have a weird number of claims, (6 POWER claims) we claim one role at the time, if mafia try to counterclaim, they've put themselves out.

Downsides: It tells the mafia where to aim their roleblock and kills, puts serious pressure on the mafia and sk to cooperate.

Thoughts?

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
but what if people lie

Truth Quark
Mar 21, 2010

:ffg:
EAT THE DONUTS
:ffg:
I am a power role but I am lying so take that how you will

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

we will go far into the sea
you will take me
onto your back
never look back
never look back
That's the dumbest plan I've ever heard

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
I'm a liar but am also lying so

TheCog
Jul 30, 2012

I AM ZEPA AND I CLAIM THESE LANDS BY RIGHT OF CONQUEST

Tommunist posted:

but what if people lie

This doesn't work if any townie lies. But if everyone is on board, then the only liars are mafia, and we can catch those with a sequential role-claim. In fact if they lie, they're a free day 1 lynch!

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

TheCog posted:

This doesn't work if any townie lies. But if everyone is on board, then the only liars are mafia, and we can catch those with a sequential role-claim. In fact if they lie, they're a free day 1 lynch!

the thing is it works both ways and it puts the game down to a situation where its just counterclaiming

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
point is i don't think i'm down for that

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

i am incredibly annoyed already.

TheCog
Jul 30, 2012

I AM ZEPA AND I CLAIM THESE LANDS BY RIGHT OF CONQUEST

Tommunist posted:

the thing is it works both ways and it puts the game down to a situation where its just counterclaiming

Ok? Yeah, you get a situation where you're guaranteed to lynch a mafia day one or day 2.

So say we have 6 POWER claims. Then we go through claiming "I'm cop", "I'm doctor" "I'm jailer", and then we lynch whatever we have two of. SK can't try it, mafia can, but it costs them a member of their team.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
What's to stop mafia from claiming power?

If even one does then it throws off the whole balance.

Truth Quark
Mar 21, 2010

:ffg:
EAT THE DONUTS
:ffg:
What happens when the scum all claim no power leaving just the town power roles for them to kill off?

We have backups I guess but still.

It is a dumb plan.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

we will go far into the sea
you will take me
onto your back
never look back
never look back
So you want to draw out all the power roles first thing day 1? That's only a good thing for scum.

##vote thecog

Truth Quark
Mar 21, 2010

:ffg:
EAT THE DONUTS
:ffg:
Or I am dumb and do not understand it that is a likely possibility.

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

ill start off by saying i am the serial killer

Truth Quark
Mar 21, 2010

:ffg:
EAT THE DONUTS
:ffg:
##vote TheCog

TheCog
Jul 30, 2012

I AM ZEPA AND I CLAIM THESE LANDS BY RIGHT OF CONQUEST

Asiina posted:

What's to stop mafia from claiming power?

If even one does then it throws off the whole balance.

Ok, say one mafia claims power. Then each power role claims what they are, and we lynch whatever we have two of. Mafia dies.

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
guess joke phase is over

##unvote

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

th

AnonymousNarcotics posted:

So you want to draw out all the power roles first thing day 1? That's only a good thing for scum.

##vote thecog

this votei s hot fuckin garbagio. the monkey avatar is thinking about this game from a town perspective. i sense his chi. ##vote anon

Asiina posted:

What's to stop mafia from claiming power?

If even one does then it throws off the whole balance.

TheCog posted:

Ok? Yeah, you get a situation where you're guaranteed to lynch a mafia day one or day 2.

So say we have 6 POWER claims. Then we go through claiming "I'm cop", "I'm doctor" "I'm jailer", and then we lynch whatever we have two of. SK can't try it, mafia can, but it costs them a member of their team.


i dont really see a problem with this plan, if you just want to solve game as fast ans possible -_____________________-

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer

TheCog posted:

Ok, say one mafia claims power. Then each power role claims what they are, and we lynch whatever we have two of. Mafia dies.

Or the power role dies, because mafia are more likely able to control the lynch, then it won't be backed up.

Having people out their roles is a terrible idea.

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

Friction.123 posted:

##vote TheCog

kill this guy 2

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer

GulagDolls posted:

i dont really see a problem with this plan, if you just want to solve game as fast ans possible -_____________________-

Also yeah, it does kinda defeat the purpose of the game to logic puzzle it out on D1.

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
i disagree with the cog but i dont think hes coming from a scum place

Truth Quark
Mar 21, 2010

:ffg:
EAT THE DONUTS
:ffg:

GulagDolls posted:

kill this guy 2

My body is ready.

Outing the power roles day 1 makes sense as a scum move to me but its day 1 so who the gently caress knows anything at this point.

I am willing and ready to change my vote for the next lynchbus that happens to roll by.

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

Asiina posted:

Or the power role dies, because mafia are more likely able to control the lynch, then it won't be backed up.

Having people out their roles is a terrible idea.

then mafia dies, also.. we can die a lot more than they can.

Asiina posted:

Also yeah, it does kinda defeat the purpose of the game to logic puzzle it out on D1.

its a lumpen setup, so, quite frankly, i think it deserves to be broken

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

Friction.123 posted:

I am willing and ready to change my vote for the next lynchbus that happens to roll by.

now this post comes from scum sector 666

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Truth Quark
Mar 21, 2010

:ffg:
EAT THE DONUTS
:ffg:

Tommunist posted:

now this post comes from scum sector 666

Thats the next destination, the admiral just hasn't chosen it yet.

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