Exioce posted:

That seemed kinda okay? I mean he was running around places, and then I think he got into a ship and flew it somewhere. Seems like the bare bones are there, or am I missing something really big?

trucutru posted:

Does the completionist package include access to the game?

Dapper Dan posted:

They just moved probably the last 30 or so million into the UK. If you assume a burn rate of 3 million a month, that's still 10 months of cash left where they need to push out SQ42, which will be all but impossible if Chirs is still micro managing with his head up his rear end (he is). If you assume they have a line of credit, you might be able to add another several million. So maybe a year, year and a half left.

We've seen nothing of Squadron 42 and you don't simply go from in development to full launch without showing the press something, even a playable section. (And no Reddit, Fallout 4 doesn't count because it technically wasn't even announced until it was nearing the end of its development life and nobody saw it beforehand). This would be a difficult tasks to complete in a year or so for an experienced production team with comparable resources. To one that seems to be bleeding talent and has a higher turnover than a fast food restaurant with a micromanaging boss who is criticizing how you scrub the toilets, its basically impossible.

The greatest irony is that Chris is so narcissistic that he thinks people actually give a hot gently caress about Squadron 42. The Star Citizen name is already dogshit. The sea of diarrhea that he calls his fans are already starting to show dissent. Once they realize their 'Space Dreams' have been exploited for a vanity project, that's pretty much the end. There will still be die-hard idiots who are mentally retarded, deficient and insane, but not enough to finish this poo poo off.

EDIT:
I did just see 'The Big Short' and Derek is definitely Mark Baum.

AP posted:

30 million left without credit seems a lot to me, but if was true in ten months they could raise an additional 20 million fairly easily, based on last year. I think faith, hope and charity are going to run out this year but even if they don't, it's hard to see CIG in 2017 being in much better of a position that they are now, backers will just have seen more and there's always worse to come.

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The US based video game company is increasing its investment in Foundry 42, a UK games studio it set up with support from UKTI.

Cloud Imperium has invested around £15 million in its UK business so far. Having started out with one floor of an office building, in 2015 the company took on a second floor and is already planning to expand to a third.

trucutru posted:

Does the completionist package include access to the game?

Tahjir posted:

Been lurking in these threads since late September, so after seeing the free flight week I decided to try it out to see just how bad it could possibly be.

At first everything seemed... functional. Sure, I moved like I was several hundred pounds overweight and it seemed like my head was attached to my left shoulder, but I was able to move and interact with my environment, two essential parts of the gaming experience. After several minutes of wandering I discovered the ship-summoning terminals and excitedly chose the first ship listed, and was told that there weren't any available spaces, nor was I allowed to summon the remaining two ships. Five minutes later I summoned the RSI Aurora, and upon finding it on the landing pad, realized it was the ugliest loving ship I had ever seen. Regardless, I attempted to board and was kicked from the server, and then my computer hard-locked.

Second attempt: I summoned some sort of fighter. I climbed inside like an arthritic grandmother boarding a roller-coaster and batted soundlessly at the mess of buttons and toggles, nothing inside the cockpit animating in any way. The screen lit up, and I was kicked due to an authentication error.

Third attempt: I ran as quickly as I could, summoned the Aurora again, and made it inside after waiting for my turn at the airlock. Once on board I noticed a small passage behind the cockpit and opened it. It turned out to be a tiny cot, which my character proceeded to loudly sleep upon. No combination of buttons would end the animation. Over the snoring, I could hear gunfire and explosions. Somewhere, someone was actually gaining some measurable amount of entertainment. Above me, the reflection in the ceiling split in two and began to vibrate. I mashed every button on my keyboard, inadvertently bringing up my mobiglass, which caused the game to crash.

Fourth attempt: I played Elite instead. Sure, it may not have the sheer fidelity, realism, and immersion, but at least I can get off the damned space station in less than an hour.

Beexoffel posted:

I am not a native speaker, so I had to look up what the title of Derek's latest essay meant.



Errm, you meant that you are "shining a brilliant light on the uninformed", right?

Hav posted:

There are also NDA and defamation clauses in some contracts that make it close to impossible to go to outside arbitration, particularly in the US. In the UK, you can go hog wild because you'll be largely protected by employment law, but in the US the concept of someone not working in a town again, while hyperbole is much more realistic. You can be sued for giving a bad reference in the UK, so you look out for neutral recommendations as 'bad'.

That they decided to fight the refund in the UK courts is more an attempt to chill the conversation than to effectively fight it; and I can't help thinking that they completely misjudged it, to be honest. The UK courts don't have that tendency to come down in favour of the defendent.

fuzzknot posted:

Bootcha and I talked/argued a lot about that before he found out much of what he's disclosed in this thread. His thinking was that surely some employee would have come forward by now if there were anything that foul really going on. I've had several years of experience in retail and theatre, both industries where complaining gets you nowhere but for different reasons, and I pointed out that there are many reasons employees might not come forward, not the least of which is a lack of legal protection.

In my own bad experiences in retail, my reasons for not coming forward or reporting issues included not knowing my rights, not caring enough because it was a seemingly minor issue, not caring because I knew I wouldn't stay there much longer anyway, fearing retaliation (including firing), not being able to prove anything, not being able to afford a lawyer, etc.

The only times I actually did anything about it were filing a complaint with the Texas Workforce Commission issuing a final demand for wages from an employer who casually decided not to give me my last paycheck, and the time a group of female stagehands (including me) complained to HR because the female assistant stage manager wasn't giving any of us calls for work. The former was successful; the latter was not (due to aforementioned failure to actually provide solid proof).

D_Smart posted:

Fidelity.

trucutru posted:

Did you know that goons are planning to use "let me loving finish" for the goon-de-yada project if you don't record something?

trucutru posted:

Did you know that goons are planning to use "let me loving finish" for the goon-de-yada project if you don't record something?

Scruffpuff posted:

I meant to draw attention to this post yesterday so this comes a bit late. These quotes baffle me:



What in the hell is this guy on about? Not even taking into account his extremely confident cadence while describing the realities of a game that does not exist, this is ridiculous on every level. He uses the word tactile several times during his tirade, and he uses it wrong each time. I'm starting to think Star Citizen might not be a cult after all - it's more like a disease. Once you catch it, you slowly go insane until fantasy and reality merge entirely. In a tactile way, of course.

AP posted:

https://twitter.com/Clifford_Miku/status/693234130746642432

Kimsemus posted:

What happened with all the speculation that CIG had private investors that weren't crowdsourced? I heard rumor some months ago that investors were around that had pumped cash into SC? Did that get debunked?

Kimsemus posted:

For many people, if you leak or whistleblow in the games industry and your identity is found out, it's tantamount to career suicide. People might not like what is going on around them, but they also like to eat. A lot of industries are like this, whistleblower laws be damned. You're damaged goods in comparatively insular industry of developers and publishers.

D_Smart posted:

That rear end in a top hat is blocked on Twitter. So what's this about then?

Daztek posted:

nVidiaStar Citizen: The Way It's Meant To Be Played

fuzzknot posted:

Hmm? Yeah, Bootcha was an investor. Emphasis on WAS.


Retaliation, yeah. That's the main reason nobody wants to complain in any industry. It's the reason I insisted on maintaining anonymity when I filed a complaint with OSHA once in my stagehand days. It's the reason I don't bitch directly to my current bosses about what idiots they are; I'd like a reference down the road, and it's impossible to say tactfully that they just plain don't know what they're doing most of the time and are running their company into the ground. It's easier (and ultimately better for me) to just seek employment elsewhere.

trucutru posted:

Did you know that goons are planning to use "let me loving finish" for the goon-de-yada project if you don't record something?

peter gabriel posted:

Kimsemus posted:

What happened with all the speculation that CIG had private investors that weren't crowdsourced? I heard rumor some months ago that investors were around that had pumped cash into SC? Did that get debunked?


For many people, if you leak or whistleblow in the games industry and your identity is found out, it's tantamount to career suicide. People might not like what is going on around them, but they also like to eat. A lot of industries are like this, whistleblower laws be damned. You're damaged goods in comparatively insular industry of developers and publishers. Or, for some people, it's just a paycheck and so long as you still get paid, why give a poo poo, or why sink the ship early that's allowing you to cash your checks.

Kimsemus posted:

no clue but I took a screencap for you:

Daztek posted:

nVidiaStar Citizen: The Way It's Meant To Be Played

Daztek posted:

D_Smart posted:

OK so it looks like he went to visit them. Meanwhile, they're still hiding the fact that they've moved the Austin studio?