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https://www.exercise.com/workout-plans/fencing-workout-plan I'm basically following this workout plan but I'm wondering if there is anything I should add or change. Glaring weaknesses, that kind of stuff. Also I was wondering if people could share their workout plans for fencing (historical or olympic).
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Is this for every day you're not sword fightin'?
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Jan 21, 2016 15:29
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Rabhadh posted:Is this for every day you're not sword fightin'? Yeah.
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We start Monday practice with: * 5min plank, a mix of: standard, forearm, and sides. Can split up if needed, we usually do 2x2:30, but goal is to get everyone to 5min straight. * 2min reverse plank, with ~30sec of each leg extended to the side. Started at 1min and have been working up. * 2min broken table, with ~30sec of each leg extended forward. * 5min wall sit. Working up to 5min straight, we started at 5x1min, now usually something like 2:30-1:30-1. Wednesday starts with an active warmup, depending on how many people are there. Sometimes it's low-key like some coordination exercises with beanbags, sometimes traditional warmup stuff, and sometimes it's rousing games of cone game. On Saturdays I go to a boot camp run at the club, focused pretty heavily on plyometrics, core, and legs. There's a few dozen stations we cycle through; only one is arm-only (pull ups), a few with dumb bells working the whole body, lots of squats, push-ups, lunges etc. I could try to remember a big list of the stations if you want. On my own, I do a lot of biking when the weather's cooperating. I'm also trying to get into the habit of a daily push up and squat regime.
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Verisimilidude posted:https://www.exercise.com/workout-plans/fencing-workout-plan Do you know how to clean & snatch?. Most strength plans wont combine upper & lower body. and it also seems weird having both straight bench press and incline bench. I would also add more shoulder stuff and forget the lat/bicep stuff. Since you have access to a barbell, I would consider just following a 'Starting Strength' program. http://startingstrength.com/ Finally, you should add some interval work on top. Just a simple tabata cycle after the strength part will carry you a long way. (Row, cycle, run, choose your poison).
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Do you know how to clean & snatch?. I decided to do starting strength instead. I actually forgot it existed, and I'll do this until I get a baseline of body mechanics. Thanks for reminding me!
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Lunge, redouble, recover forward, 2 squats then repeat until you hit the end of the room or fall over with exhaustion.
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Jan 23, 2016 07:19
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I've been doing a modified Strength Program from Start Bodyweight.
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Jan 23, 2016 12:28
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Went to see the Helsinki Longsword Open! It was cool, I want to do that too! Now I have nine gigabytes of pictures to sort through. 
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That's cool, Siivola. Please share some, if you can. I noticed EHMS uploaded some videos to their youtube from the event https://www.youtube.com/user/EHMSRy I just started doing HEMA and historical fencing and it's just so awesome. I'm in that honeymoon period where you get super into something and it's all you can think about. What kind of creative bags do you guys use for transporting your gear? Swords are so long it's been a pain to find a good bag that'd fit a longword or a sidesword and hopefully a mask and gloves and stuff and hopefully work as a backbag too. I guess I could use separate bags for the swords. I've been eyeing something like maybe a bag for skis or a snowboard or something. General Emergency fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Jan 29, 2016 |
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Jan 29, 2016 14:30
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General Emergency posted:What kind of creative bags do you guys use for transporting your gear? Swords are so long it's been a pain to find a good bag that'd fit a longword or a sidesword and hopefully a mask and gloves and stuff and hopefully work as a backbag too. I guess I could use separate bags for the swords. I've been eyeing something like maybe a bag for skis or a snowboard or something. Hard golf travel cases work quite well.
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Hard-sided golf cases are the bomb, especially if you have to travel by air to a venue. Nothing worse than getting your bag and finding all your blades are bent backwards because they got stacked funny on the plane.
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Jan 29, 2016 16:42
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General Emergency posted:That's cool, Siivola. Please share some, if you can.  IMG_0319.jpg by Siivola, on Flickr  IMG_0358.jpg by Siivola, on Flickr  IMG_0504.jpg by Siivola, on Flickr  IMG_0687.jpg by Siivola, on Flickr A newspaper stopped by at the tournament and did a pretty good article, and a dude on the Internet translated it to English.
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PVC electrical conduit is cheap and good for protecting blades if you can't get a hard case. It doesn't look that flash but you can also get anodised aluminium tube for a few dollars more - you might need to stick a bit of something soft in the end (I use an inch or so of hose pipe) to stop the tips from rattling around inside.
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Thanks for the suggestions guys and those pictures own bones. I ended up getting a gunbag. It's pretty great and just what I needed but I don't think it'll fit a longsword. PVC pipe will make a great ghetto-scabbard
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Feb 1, 2016 10:31
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I heard a guy say that fencing isn't manly like kendo because it isn't painful Is fencing manly
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Feb 1, 2016 15:22
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I thought bruised nipples and pits of elbow are a common thing in olympic fencing. You can't scream though, so it still loses to kendo.
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Smoking Crow posted:I heard a guy say that fencing isn't manly like kendo because it isn't painful If they're gonna be weirdly macho about it ask them why they engage in a sport where you have to shout "MEN!" constantly.
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Feb 1, 2016 15:28
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Few things are as unexpectedly painful as being hit by a tip on the middle of a flexed bicep.
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Do you think that if they used real weapons in fencing it would be more manly
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so manly
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I feel like fencing is the only sport where being scrawny as poo poo gives me a legitimate advantage. Also not having boobs reduces your target area a lot, so I would call it very manly.
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Smoking Crow posted:I heard a guy say that fencing isn't manly like kendo because it isn't painful
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I don't know if it's quite as manly as American football, you don't get to wear tight spandex and mad Max style shoulder pads or hug other manly men very much. But the knee socks are very comfortable. Fencing is paintball/laser tag for swords. I haven't tried kendo but it honestly doesn't look like it hurts all that much? Unless something goes wrong, of course. Or maybe badminton, only the shuttlecock is stuck to your racquet, and instead of wanting it to fall to the ground in your opponent's court, you want to drive it straight through the heart of your enemy Crazy Achmed fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Feb 1, 2016 |
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Oh hey, my Leon Paul HEMA mask arrived! It was really expensive but I bet it's worth it!  ...Well what do you know, it looks like someone took a loving warhammer to it. Oh yes this is exactly the poo poo I wanted to deal with right now. Edit: I mean, for gently caress's sake.  Edit2: Huh! I just dropped an email to LP and now they're sending me another mask. That's pretty cool of them. 
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Feb 2, 2016 12:41
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Siivola posted:Oh hey, my Leon Paul HEMA mask arrived! It was really expensive but I bet it's worth it! Be careful with those masks. They're comfortable but have a tendency to cave. My teacher used to use one until we replaced it with a PBT mask. He would have marks on his face constantly.
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I just got this 1600N PBT mask. Don't really have anything to compare it to but it sure feels sturdy enough to actually take a warhammer to the face without caving in....
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Tendency to cave, you say? No, I can't possibly see this one caving in.  The way you tell it makes it sound like your teacher would just pop the dent out and get back to getting sworded in the face. I'm pretty sure a bad dent doesn't just buff out, it's going to collapse in the same place next time it's hit. Wiggling wire back and forth is the easiest way to break it, after all.
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Siivola posted:Tendency to cave, you say? No, I can't possibly see this one caving in. It deform but usually Springs back. He eventually retired it and now it's the mask of shame for newbies or for people who forgot their masks. He says he still prefers it over his new one because of how lightweight and comfortable it was.
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Leon Paul update: They want me to pay another £42 for shipping the new, unfucked shell. Also they can't figure out what sort of extra padding goes on their HEMA mask. I think I'll just drink myself to stupor and watch Clone Wars.
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Hopefully you used a decent credit card or paypal and can just submit a backcharge through them?.
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Verisimilidude posted:He says he still prefers it over his new one because of how lightweight and comfortable it was. I've been using LP masks for a few years now, and using anything more traditionally padded is practically claustrophobic
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Yeah, get a refund, that's bullshit. Nothing I've ever bought from Leon Paul has been good quality, come to think of it, except for a really nice foil grip that I think they don't make anymore  I've got a glove from them that had the stitching go within a year of light use, which is sad because the design and feel of it was otherwise quite good.[Edit] just tell them they should be paying for shipping because it's their fuckup, not yours. Maybe their customer support will see sense. Crazy Achmed fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Feb 3, 2016 |
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Siivola posted:
Holy poo poo that is pretty terrifying. It should take an unbelievable amount of force to cause a cave in like that, unless the mask was defective. I definitely wouldn't pay the shipping fee, just tell them it's a refund or nothing. If I did HEMA then I wouldn't go for something like Leon Paul anyways. Their new design are all about sleek designs and light weight, which is fine for sport fencing but not for HEMA.
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This model is supposed to be ~20% stronger~, and it really is noticeably heavier than LP's regular contour-fit coaching mask. Strong enough for HEMA, but not strong enough for DHL!
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Yeah, Leon Paul has a whole section on their website for HEMA gear now. I haven't heard many good things about their stuff though hth.
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Most (if not all) of their HEMA stuff's made in collaboration with SPES, but is more expensive because it's pretty overbuilt and comes with a Leon Paul tag. So people just buy SPES and nobody writes about the LP gear. I faintly recall hearing their pants are all right? On the other hand, the only negative I've heard is that LP's customer service is a pain in the rear end, but that I can 100% corroborate. No but seriously, they've reached "no actually this is against the law I have rights" levels of pain in the rear end. I'm hoping I'm done with this poo poo tomorrow and can post a full report.
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Was the packaging damaged? Given the force you'd have to apply to make a dent like that, I'd be looking for a forklift driver or similar as the culprit.
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Yeah, the cardboard box was pretty beat up. It was probably left between a door or had something fall on it, maybe. Anyhow, managed to convince LP that no, I'm not going to pay for the replacement, and yes, they really do need to include the high-impact space age padding featured in the product description. All's well that ends well.  All I need now is a gorget and a good pair of gauntlets and I'm good to– Oh wait, and a plate for the back of my head... And knee and elbow pads. And shin guards. Aaaand I guess a longsword. help
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Today is a good day, because I get to post sword porn. Back in April I got on the waiting list at Danelli for a replica of this sword from my copy of Norman's book on rapiers.  It arrived today and is drop-dead gorgeous, along with handling better than anything I've ever held.  Full album (with obligatory apologies for the lovely pics): http://imgur.com/a/yZs6f/all
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