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Marching Powder: Mar 8, 2008; stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.

People were mentioning fuzzy 'bullying' some guy. Who is this guy and how big of a dweeb is he to let fuzzy bully him?

# ? Feb 3, 2016 09:46

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trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

ZenMaster posted:

Fuzzy Modem:

How can his sister be two months older?

Magic!.

No, wait, those siblings live in the dark side of the planet.

Hi-tech!

# ? Feb 3, 2016 09:48

Runa: Feb 13, 2011

oh also I'm posting my da page here under the assumption that since I don't actually produce any work mocking SC and have never posting anything of the sort there that most people will take the high road and not deign to vandalize it or anything

I know I joke about some of the crazier people over in the SC community but I'm assuming people lurking here are capable of being calm and rational folks since as far as this thread's concerned I'm just some random shitposter

# ? Feb 3, 2016 09:48

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

I'll share my citizen's story

I'm thirty-ish, live in Sweden and work as a social worker

I vaguely remember the SC kickstarter campaign. I skimmed through the description, thought "MMO? nahh" and went on my merry way. I don't think I'd heard of Chris before, and only knew Derek from Desktop Commander

Sometime in August I passed by the game forum, and found the Star Citizen thread. I read through the OP, and I think this would be a pretty correct description of my thought process:

How many pages? Guess this got released, huh
Well, guess not. What's a fake ship though, and what separates it from a real one?
...so. Kickstarter campaign spinning off the rail. Big d-wait, how much have they raised?
They're still raising cash? People have spent thousands on this? Do they at least concede they're insane?
There's a ship market?
CitCon is up I guess. Better have some pretty amazing gameplay vids
Bishop speech
Morrow Tour - Why are people faking excitement for this
beer got banned
First post in thread - claimed to be ridiculously angry and over invested backer. Two more posts before people got it was fake

Thank you for letting me share commandos o9

# ? Feb 3, 2016 09:50

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

StarbloodKiss posted:

I've known of SA for years and have been lurking for about ten years. I have friends who are a part of the SA community and I've never really feared goons. I've encountered them in EVE online during a war between alliances, but otherwise I generally always spoke up for them. A lot of people just seem to have this bad image of goons yet most of the internet's content, original content actually, derives from SA.

Bottom line is, I've always held respect for goons and SA. I really enjoyed watching Shmorky's animated cartoons, dog articles, D&D articles, etc. I have a friend who currently posts in BYOB quite frequently, so yeah. Nice to meet you too!

Thank you for sharing citizen

Did we bait you into paying for "platinum only" content?

# ? Feb 3, 2016 09:51

a whole buncha crows: May 8, 2003; WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHO TO HATE, WE HATE OURSELVES.-SA USER NATION (AKA ME!)

Marching Powder posted:

People were mentioning fuzzy 'bullying' some guy. Who is this guy and how big of a dweeb is he to let fuzzy bully him?

He said i didn't like spaceships but i do

# ? Feb 3, 2016 09:52

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

StarbloodKiss posted:

Good question, it's definitely something to consider since it sends a message to everyone else who may consider a kickstarter campaign. Ultimately, I think everyone is responsible. I know its a very broad answer, but really...the backers backed the game on their own volition, however they did so under the information presented to them by the developer. The backers are responsible for their decision. But the real question comes down to should the developer be put into a position of accountability and if so, how?

I'll help. Read the part I bolded, it's pretty key.

Then see if you can get a bingo using this helpful sheet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_advertising

# ? Feb 3, 2016 09:52

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

Eonwe posted:

star citizen is bad

Eonwe, almost every time I see one of your posts, my day is made better

lol if you put Eonwe on ignore you're missing one of the better bits about star citizen

and sa

# ? Feb 3, 2016 09:57

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

# ? Feb 3, 2016 09:57

StarbloodKiss: Feb 3, 2016; Why is the entire cargo hold full with crates of Krogan Krackers?

Justin Tyme posted:

If anything, just ask yourself honestly, have you gotten or do you see yourself getting $2000 of enjoyment out of this game, after seeing the progress that has been made through an impartial, non-hyped filter? You don't need to tell yourself "yes" just to feel less guilty, just get a refund brother and don't bear that guilt at all!

I really appreciate the advice and you definitely make sense. I felt the same way too since you're right, $2000 is more than enough for just one game which I may or may not even like once its fully out. I'll see if I can look into getting a refund somewhere down the line or possibly just gray market my stuff. It isn't too much on the priority list currently, but then again its something I've been reconsidering. Still, thank you and I really appreciate the thoughtfulness.

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Thank you for sharing citizen

Did we bait you into paying for "platinum only" content?

Hahaha, sadly, no. I still got the platinum account though because I figured "what the hell"? Still, these posts have made me laugh a ton, so I really appreciate it. Very witty people here

trucutru posted:

I'll help. Read the part I bolded, it's pretty key.

Then see if you can get a bingo using this helpful sheet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_advertising

Yeah, you know...its definitely a cold approach to say 'they did it to themselves' but at the same time a lie is a lie. Its just tough for me to really pin entirely on CIG though since I really believe everyone is responsible for their actions. However, there are some people who are just...very easy to manipulate and exploit. And taking advantage of that and of those people...I do not agree with.

Its overall a very tricky spot. I'm just interested to see how this plays out since it will definitely be something for the gaming industry to scrutinize, either for success or failure. I know someone though who is one of those people who seems to have an issue stopping with the ship buying and stuff. Thankfully, he is taking a time out from SC/reddit/everything to clear his head. Can you believe it?...SC detox.

StarbloodKiss fucked around with this message at 10:01 on Feb 3, 2016

# ? Feb 3, 2016 09:58

Rabelais D: Dec 11, 2012; ts'u nnu k'u k'o t'khye:
A demon doth defecate at thy door

wait are backers cool with the fact they may very well be paying for/contributing to chris hiring a cook and a nutritionist? obviously these are critical components to the development of star citizen. Also the way sandi talked about being so thoughtful and not flying first class is pretty drat disgusting. Pat yourself on the back a bit more.

Would sandi get billed alongside gillian anderson anywhere else? would she get to be VP of marketing anywhere else?
I wonder if she ever stops to think about how much of a failure you have to be in life to completely rely on nepotism when approaching middle age.

# ? Feb 3, 2016 09:59

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

StarbloodKiss posted:

Its overall a very tricky spot. I'm just interested to see how this plays out since it will definitely be something for the gaming industry to scrutinize, either for success or failure.

Dunno, if I go to a restaurant and someone tells me my $50 burger is almost done and six hours later they give me a chimichanga I would be kind of pissed. Specially if they insist I was given the burger I asked for. Also the chimichanga can barely fly and crashes to desktop.

Not very tricky.

StarbloodKiss posted:

... since I really believe everyone is responsible for their actions.

Watch out, this path leads to madness (or at least to being an rear end in a top hat).

trucutru fucked around with this message at 10:05 on Feb 3, 2016

# ? Feb 3, 2016 10:02

Runa: Feb 13, 2011

Rabelais D posted:

wait are backers cool with the fact they may very well be paying for/contributing to chris hiring a cook and a nutritionist? obviously these are critical components to the development of star citizen. Also the way sandi talked about being so thoughtful and not flying first class is pretty drat disgusting. Pat yourself on the back a bit more.

Would sandi get billed alongside gillian anderson anywhere else? would she get to be VP of marketing anywhere else?
I wonder if she ever stops to think about how much of a failure you have to be in life to completely rely on nepotism when approaching middle age.

I think, after a point, some people just have a sense of resignation about this stuff

# ? Feb 3, 2016 10:02

NoNotTheMindProbe: Aug 9, 2010; pony porn was here

What made you feel that dropping $2000 on a single game was worth it?

# ? Feb 3, 2016 10:04

Solarin: Nov 15, 2007

StarbloodKiss posted:

Good question, it's definitely something to consider since it sends a message to everyone else who may consider a kickstarter campaign. Ultimately, I think everyone is responsible. I know its a very broad answer, but really...the backers backed the game on their own volition, however they did so under the information presented to them by the developer. The backers are responsible for their decision. But the real question comes down to should the developer be put into a position of accountability and if so, how?

If they tried in good conscience to develop something and failed, how can you hold them accountable? Its quite easy when something is black and white (Ie: they failed to deliver because they bought booze and strippers) but an honest failure due to technical issues, oversights, personality conflicts, etc...I mean, how can you really hold someone accountable?

If anything, the mark of failure of such a scale would be enough punishment, I think. Chris is leading the ship and if ship crashes, its all on the captain. For those below who tried to offer their best but fell short, failure is not the end. But Chris is in charge. If it fails, its on him.

That's a fair response and it is kind of unanswerable outside of a legal ( :woof:

) setting. If there was any sanity in crowdfunding there would be a requirement to document management's planning and communication; I guess with SC well get plenty of points of view after enough time passes

I guess what I mean by accountability is a detailed financial accounting for the entire project including salaries/bonuses/share buyouts. I honestly can't believe this is something the backers aren't entitled to and it upsets me that CIG is STILL RAISING FUNDS with no loving tracability to where it's going and how long they can keep the lights on.

# ? Feb 3, 2016 10:05

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

Rad Russian posted:

Cultists are unbelievable right? And people already forgot the $20,000 coffee machine Croberts bought for the office.

They keep coming into this thread, ignore all the of the money waste we point out and sperg about project timelines and it taking more time and that's ok because game development... WHO GIVES A poo poo. You gave money to an imbecile that buys $5,000 chairs and $20,000 coffee makers with backer money. He also wasted untold millions on opening/closing mo cap studios and offices because he is an idiot and does not know how to manage a company. He also blew something like several mil on Illfonic with nothing to show for it. No one gives a poo poo about the timelines besides it adding even more to this comedic trainwreck.

Twenty dollars extra for an expansion to a game is unthinkable on consumer side
Twenty thousand dollars extra for a coffee maker to a game's development company is permissable on production side

I tried to make this post like that Stalin quote, you know, like the one about death, tragedy and statistics? Well, I tried, but basically the punchline is star citizen is a war crime

# ? Feb 3, 2016 10:05

StarbloodKiss: Feb 3, 2016; Why is the entire cargo hold full with crates of Krogan Krackers?

trucutru posted:

Dunno, if I go to a restaurant and someone tells me my $50 burger is almost done and six hours later they give me a chimichanga I would be kind of pissed. Specially if they insist I was given the burger I asked for. Also the chimichanga can barely fly and crashes to desktop.

Not very tricky.

Hahaha, very good point. I can see what you mean. People will have a reason to be pissed off for sure. Currently, SC is definitely nothing at all like what Chris said he would deliver. It could be possible he does deliver a burger, but that burger may just end up being delayed by years as opposed to months and be kind of what you ordered, but not really.

I don't know, really. I get what you're saying and I totally agree. He's basically promising the best burger you'll ever eat which isn't just a burger but also a steak, but with also an amazing side dish. The list of what you get keeps growing. And yet it never comes. Or when you get the sampler its just...total rear end. And then you're like 'but you said this would have garlic' and Chris goes 'oh yeah, its there. see?' *points out burned stuff* 'stop asking about it'.

# ? Feb 3, 2016 10:06

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

Scruffpuff posted:

I have a friend who frequents a gentlemen's club; I visit as well from time to time. He typically gravitates to one specific girl, who always greets him with a big smile. He's the kind of guy who keeps a fistful of cash and waves it around visibly - that always gets a big smile from her. I know where that cash will be by the end of the night. I usually drop a few bucks and nurse a $10 Sprite, then head home.

One night, I'm in the club by myself, and I see his favorite girl screaming at her coworkers in front of the other customers. I have no idea what it was about, but it must have been serious. She slaps one of them across the face, sending her crying into the dressing room. Two other girls say they're going to complain, but she has the upper hand - her boyfriend owns the place, so who are they gonna tell? After 15 more minutes of screaming, the owner comes out, sends one of the girls into the dressing room, and fires the other one outright. Everyone in the place is uncomfortable as all hell. I head home.

I was talking to my buddy the next day about what I saw - I told him about the abuse, the girl who got fired, the owner getting involved, etc. To my surprise, he got this upset look on his face, turned to me and said, "You know, it upsets me when you talk about her like that. She was always very nice to me."

This is the precise surgical bomb strike we needed out there, you could speak in a Roman senate and belay the lions or something

bravo

# ? Feb 3, 2016 10:09

ZenMaster: Jan 24, 2006; I Saved PC Gaming

I don't hate anyone, SC or CR or Sandi or Ben or whoever... why hate? It's silly... no one misconstrue my teasing as anger, it's all so insanely silly. I feel bad for the B4TBG's in this as they knew people involved and actually have an axe to grind.

I am upset that people are going to lose a ton of money, but I guess they accepted the risks involved and made big boy decisions with their own monies.

It's just fun to make gifs... I secretly want to make gifs and this thread lets me do that. I could care less about starships. Don't judge.

I am saying gif as gif and not jiff, cause ain't nobody got time for that.

# ? Feb 3, 2016 10:11

StarbloodKiss: Feb 3, 2016; Why is the entire cargo hold full with crates of Krogan Krackers?

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

What made you feel that dropping $2000 on a single game was worth it?

I think I just liked the idea of being able to play with my friends and not have to actually work to get stuff I wanted off the bat. It would just be a sort of 'hey guys i got this stuff covered lets go have fun'. I had the money and could spend it without any issues. It was just an entertainment expense for something I liked. I was able to live comfortably after spending it, I still have plenty of money left over, and I really wouldn't have spent it otherwise since I don't really need much to be happy.

# ? Feb 3, 2016 10:13

CrazyTolradi: Oct 2, 2011; It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

T.G. Xarbala posted:

I think, after a point, some people just have a sense of resignation about this stuff

I find it hilarious that with all the support and opportunities Sandi has had from her family and wealthy background (As EightAce has stated) that even with nepotism and money behind her, this is as high as she's risen and is likely as high as she'll get.

# ? Feb 3, 2016 10:14

EminusSleepus: Sep 28, 2015