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This is a very pretty game. A pity about the gameplay not being up to the same standard. Besides that, Jörmungandr is in fact fated to kill Thor when Ragnarök comes around, so the game is right about that. On the other hand I do wonder why they made up some rando fire giant for that bossfight instead of using Surtur like everybody else.
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Alexeythegreat posted:Probably. However, the powers that aren't healing and shield aren't of much use because of the controls: the powers aren't bound to keys, you have to scroll through them using the Q and E keys while watching out for everything that is thrown at you, and then the scrolling sometimes bugs out and you have to scroll through the entire thing again to use the correct power. In the following parts I die several times because I try to take advantage of the powers, but to no avail. Not sure if I will include death montages later, as the number of deaths is now far in double digits and I still haven't beaten the final boss (although I did defeat the final Jotun, who isn't actually the last boss) So... use an Xbox controller like Odin intended? Does the game support controllers?
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Hahahahahaha, that post death explosion was such an amazing dick move. Job twoju mat indeed.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:So... use an Xbox controller like Odin intended? The game does support controllers. However, my brain doesn't support controllers, as I have touched a controller only once in my life around 9 years ago for roughly 10 minutes. Besides, I don't see how scrolling through powers on a controller would require less multitasking than doing it on keyboard
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The rest might be bad, but I think that you should have expected the deathsplosion considering all the enemies in the area also deathsploded and his death animation was kind of telling. I'm not saying I wouldn't have been caught by it, but personally I'd be all 'dammit, I should have KNOWN'.
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Alexeythegreat posted:The game does support controllers. However, my brain doesn't support controllers, as I have touched a controller only once in my life around 9 years ago for roughly 10 minutes. I imagine that power cycling is bound to the shoulder buttons by default as is convention. Tapping those (index or middle finger) while concentrating on moving with the stick (thumb) has got to be less stressful on your hands than manipulating a button-field. Let's just say muscle memory plays a big part, and certain genres lend themselves better to certain control inputs. I think your brain might need a firmware update. ;p I still like your Let's Play very much though, and I will hush about controllers.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:The rest might be bad, but I think that you should have expected the deathsplosion considering all the enemies in the area also deathsploded and his death animation was kind of telling. I'm not saying I wouldn't have been caught by it, but personally I'd be all 'dammit, I should have KNOWN'. Maybe, but my mind wasn't exactly there after doing the same thing over and over again for 30 minutes CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:I imagine that power cycling is bound to the shoulder buttons by default as is convention. Tapping those (index or middle finger) while concentrating on moving with the stick (thumb) has got to be less stressful on your hands than manipulating a button-field. Oh, the problem isn't the position of the buttons. It's actually quite comfrotable. The problem is that in order to know which power you'll be using at any given second you have to drop a glance at their icons, which is impossible when there's a lot of unpredictable crap flying at you from all sides. On top of that, it bugs out sometimes, being stuck at a power while confirming the switch with a sound, so even memorization isn't feasible nutri_void fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Feb 2, 2016 |
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Alexeythegreat posted:Maybe, but my mind wasn't exactly there after doing the same thing over and over again for 30 minutes Oh, you're completely right. I didn't consider the effect of finally beating a boss that's been smashing you for so many times... Yeah, I probably wouldn't even be looking at the boss to notice the harakiri and such. My bad. 
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I'm reading steam discussions on Jotun from when it was just released, the devs got lots of complaints on the fights being luck-based and the responses are generally a respectful version of "you're doing this wrong you noob", then referring to tricks that are absolutely impossible to figure out in gameplay conditions https://steamcommunity.com/app/323580/discussions/0/490121928362446937/
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Alexeythegreat posted:I'm reading steam discussions on Jotun from when it was just released, the devs got lots of complaints on the fights being luck-based and the responses are generally a respectful version of "you're doing this wrong you noob", then referring to tricks that are absolutely impossible to figure out in gameplay conditions So it's an art "game" that the developers forgot to make remotely enjoyable to play, then they ignore the complaints they receive by shouting back "no, you're just doing it wrong!" Christ, I'm glad I didn't pick this game up on a whim or something. Sorry that you have to suffer through it for our entertainment, Alexey.
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"Yes, the blizzard level has an inaccurate map. This was a design decision because this level feature pillar that let you see the level." lol -- And then comes Blood Omen 2. I should've done as I initially planned and LPd one of the 3D Rayman games 
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Many of us greatly appreciate your showing us this game so we can see the pretty bits without having to play it!
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Alexeythegreat posted:And then comes Blood Omen 2. I should've done as I initially planned and LPd one of the 3D Rayman games Go LP one of those to wash the taste of this garbage out of your mouth, then do Blood Omen 2.
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KieranWalker posted:Go LP one of those to wash the taste of this garbage out of your mouth, then do Blood Omen 2. Actually, that will not be necessary. I will not be LPing BO2 alone, and I have decided that I won't be doing a practice run (if I get stuck - everyone suffers with me, if I get stuck for a very long time - I just cut it the hell out and proceed). This automatically means that scheduling becomes a factor and that updates have absolutely no chance of being as frequent as they were for the SR games, thus giving me ample time to LP something else at the same time. The fact that there aren't any LPs of Rayman 3 on the archive or in the master list surprises me almost as much as the lack of LoK VLPs surprised me back when I only just registered. Almost gegi posted:Many of us greatly appreciate your showing us this game so we can see the pretty bits without having to play it! You're welcome! In the end, there's a reason why Archive's motto is "We'll play it so you won't have to" nutri_void fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Feb 3, 2016 |
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I'm a little bit behind, it seems! Time to catch up on the  .So let's start with Loki. Who, or what, is he supposed to have been? Sources are a bit unclear. He seemed to have lived among the aesir, so likely he was one. His parents are said to be the giants Farbauti and Laufey, suggesting he's a giant. There is a particularly interesting case that suggests that Loki may be a brother of Odin. In short, there are two versions of the human creation myth; according to Snorri Sturluson, humanity was created by Odin, Vili and Ve, while others name the latter two Hönir and Lodur. That's probably the same Hönir that gets sent to the vanir as a hostage, by the way. Anyway, in turn, there are several stories of Odin, Hönir and Loki going on adventures, which suggests Ve, Lodur and Loki are all just names for the same character. What we do know is that Loki got up to all kinds of things, from virtuous deeds to mischief and outright mayhem. With the giantess Angrboda ("grief-bringer"), Loki fathered a daughter and two sons: Hel, Fenrir, and Jörmungandr. A prophecy foretells that the children of Loki will cause great suffering and sorrow, so Odin calls for the three to be rounded up. He casts Hel into Niflheim, where she comes to have dominion over the halls of the inglorious dead (i.e. those who die from sickness or age rather than on the battlefield). Odin charges her to give shelter to all those who come to her, and she wields a knife called Famine, a plate called Hunger, and a bed called Sickness. Fenrir is a ferocious wolf, and Odin has trouble dealing with him. Twice Fenrir is bound in iron chains, but he breaks free each time. Odin consults with the dwarves of Nidavellir, who forge the magical chain Gleipnir with which to bind the wolf. They forge it out of six impossible things: the sound of a cat's footsteps, the beard of a woman, the breath of a fish, the sinews of a bear, the roots of a mountain, and the spit of a bird. To lure Fenrir close, the brave war-god Tyr offers to put his hand inside the wolf's mouth to calm him; Odin throws Gleipnir over Fenrir and successfully binds him, but Fenrir bites off Tyr's hand in retribution. Fenrir is then bound underneath the world, and will not break free until Ragnarök. Jörmungandr, then, is a serpent. Odin casts him into the vast ocean outside Midgard, where the serpent grows so large that it encircles the entire world and bites its own tail. There are several myths involving Jörmungandr, usually in association with Thor. In one tale, Thor and Loki have travelled to Utgard, a castle in Jötunheim, where the king (who is also named Loki for some reason) tells them that all guests who come to his table must prove their worth with a feat of strength. Loki is challenged to an eating contest against a giant named Logi, who defeats the god by eating not just the food, but all the bones and the trestle table itself. Thor meanwhile has to quaff from a horn of mead, which he also fails to do. Thor refuses to give up, and the giant king has him try to lift a cat off the ground, which Thor also fails to do, save for that he manages to force the cat to take one foot off the ground. He is then made to wrestle the giant king's elderly godmother, and once again Thor fails. The gods are humiliated, of course, but they are nevertheless accepted among the king's host. The next day, the giant king reveals the secret of why they failed: the giant had used his magic to mislead the eyes of the gods. The giant Logi was actually an all-consuming fire ("Logi" means "flame"), the horn was the ocean itself, the cat was actually Jörmungandr (making the fact that Thor managed to lift one of its feet off the ground quite impressive), and the giant's godmother was old age itself which will conquer all men in time. Enraged, Thor turns around to smite the king with his magic hammer, Mjölnir, but the king, his castle and host have disappeared, and the two gods return home. Hyper Crab Tank fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Feb 3, 2016 |
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I realize it's not the same company as The Banner Saga? But is it the same artist? It looks so much like it.
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While we're on the topic of Loki, there are three more tales I want to tell that involve him. The first begin when a jötun mason shows up in Valhalla and offers to build a fortification around it. He swears that he can finish the fortification in the course of a single winter - an extraordinary feat - but if he succeeds, he wants as a reward the sun and the moon and the goddess Freyja. The gods are reluctant, but Loki convinces them there is no way the mason can finish the task so quickly, and they accept on the condition that the mason will do the task without the help of any man. He agrees, on the counter-condition that he is allowed the help of his stallion Svadilfari ("unlucky traveler"). As it turns out Svadilfari is a giant of a horse, and carries a load half over as great as the giant, and as time passes, it looks like he will finish the task as promised. This worries the aesir, who go to Loki and accuse him of giving bad advice and making a bad deal for them. They threaten Loki with violence if he doesn't find a way to finagle them out of the promised payment. So, Loki, being a skilled sorcerer and shapeshifter, transforms himself into a mare and... "distracts" Svadilfari long enough that the mason cannot finish his work. The giant is enraged, and Thor slays him with a single blow from his hammer. Loki, presumably still in the shape of a mare, gives birth to the eight-legged horse Sleipnir ("slippery"), the finest horse, who becomes Odin's mount. The second story is far darker, and foretells the end of days. You will no doubt remember Baldr, son of Odin and Frigg, who was fair and handsome and beloved by all. Well, Frigg had foretold a horrible fate would befall him, so she went to all the living beings of the world and asked each to promise never to harm Baldr. Each living thing promised thusly. But Frigg overlooked a small, fragile plant - mistletoe - that grew behind Asgard, which she thought was too weak to be any threat to her son, and so didn't ask it for a promise. Baldr was thus immune to weapons of all kinds, and the aesir made a sport of hurling spears and arrows at Baldr, who would laugh and shrug them off. But Loki had heard of the mistletoe, and crafted an arrow from its wood and gave the arrow to Baldr's blind brother, Hödr. Hödr loosed the arrow, and in a single blow slew his brother, and thus Frigg's prophecy came true. The aesir fell silent as Baldr's spirit was carried off to Hel. Odin does the only reasonable thing and sires a child with yet another random giantess - the child, named Vali, grows to adulthood in a day and slays Hödr in revenge. But Frigg refused to let things stand, so while the other aesir prepared Baldr's funeral pyre, she sent a messenger - Hermodr, another son of Odin - to the underworld to petition Hel to allow her son back among the living. Hermodr rides for Hel on Odin's horse Sleipnir, and there he finds Baldr in the seat of honor in the halls of the dead. He tells Hel that all beings love Baldr and that he must return to the living. Hel agrees, on the condition that the aesir can prove this claim by asking all things, living and dead, to weep for Baldr. The gods send messengers to do this, and all things weep, except for one - the giantess Thökk, actually Loki in disguise, who refuses to do so and consigns Baldr to his fate. It's about this time that the aesir have had enough of Loki's bullshit. It all comes to a head when Loki crashes a feast held by the sea god Aegir, to which he was not invited, and demands a place at the table. When he is told to shut up and that there was a reason no one invites Loki to parties, he starts insulting the other gods. He calls Odin a traitor in not so many words, reminding him that Odin and Loki used to drink together and swear never to drink lest in the other's company. He calls Bragi - the god of skalds and poetry - an ineffectual coward, accuses Frigg of infidelity, Freyja of sleeping with all the other gods (making a special point of her brother Freyr) and that Njördr fathered the pair with his own sister. He calls Tyr a swindler and mocks him about the hand he lost to Fenrir. Heimdall says Loki is drunk and that he should just be quiet, which Loki replies to with scorn. He claims to have personally slept with Skadi (wife of Njördr) and Sif (wife of Thor), and on it goes. Then Thor arrives, and boy is he pissed off. Loki calls Thor a coward, and three times Thor threatens to bash Loki's skull to pieces with his hammer. The third time Loki relents and leaves the hall. But the gods have had enough and send to have him captured. For a while, Loki evades them by transforming himself into a salmon, but is eventually caught. The gods slay Loki's son Narfi (by his wife Sigyn), and transform his intestines into iron, which they use to bind Loki beneath the earth. The ice jötun Skadi places a serpent above his head, which is constantly dripping venom onto his forehead. Loki's wife Sigyn sits above him with a bowl, catching the serpent's venom, but every now and then she must turn aside to empty the bowl, and the pain this causes Loki makes him writhe and moan, causing earthquakes. There Loki is foretold to remain until he too will break free when Ragnarök comes.
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You want more Loki? There is one more tale I remember. I mentioned Sif before; she is the wife of Thor, and the goddess of marriage. She has a son named Ullr (who is an expert bowman, skier, and duelist), and with Thor she had another son, Modi. Thor's son with the giantess Jarnsaxa ("iron-sword"), Magni, is her stepson. But when she was young, Loki played a prank on her and cut off her hair while she rested. This enraged the gods, who as usual threatened Loki with violence unless he fixed things. Loki went to Nidavellir and asked a group of dwarves referred to as the Sons of Ivaldi to craft a golden hairpiece for Sif. The dwarves did so, and additionally made the magic ship Skidbladnir and the spear Gungnir ("swayer"). Then Loki decided to push his luck, and made a bet with the dwarf brothers Brokkr and Sindri that they could not make three treasures as great as those three, and that Loki would give them his head if they could. The pair set to work; Brokkr worked the bellows while Sindri smithed the items. Loki transformed himself into a fly and bit Brokkr while he worked, but he was relentless, and the brothers first produced the golden boar Gullinbursti ("golden-bristle"). Then they started anew, and Loki bit Brokkr again, but he relented, and the treasure they took from the furnace this time was the golden ring Draupnir ("dripper"), which manifests eight new golden rings every ninth night. Finally, the dwarves set to work again, and this time Loki managed to distract Brokkr for a mere second, which nearly ruined the treasure they were making, which was the hammer Mjölnir ("mealer", as in that which crushes); its handle came out far too short. The dwarves and Loki went before the aesir and asked them to adjudicate the wager. The dwarves gifted Gungnir and Draupnir to Odin, Gullinbursti and Skidbladnir to Freyr, the golden hairpiece to Sif, and the hammer Mjölnir to Thor. The gods agreed that the treasures Brokkr and Sindri had made were just as fine as the others, and the dwarves asked to have Loki's head cut off, according to the wager. But Loki interjected that while he had promised them his head, he had not promised them his neck, so they had no right to cut it. Instead, the dwarves sewed Loki's mouth shut as punishment, since it was part of his head, but not his neck. Hyper Crab Tank fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Feb 3, 2016 |
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I already said that, but I will not hesitate to point out once again that Hyper Crab Tank is the MVP syzpid posted:I realize it's not the same company as The Banner Saga? But is it the same artist? It looks so much like it. No, I don't think so. Although Jotun had multiple artists. ------------------------- I have finally beaten the game. There are still three videos to go: one with the round-up of the poo poo I failed to pick up, one with the final fight and ending, and one as an afterword with me disassembling the good and the bad in the game. I should start posting these updates come weekend, hopefully
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I just love Norse mythology, and happy to think people are interested in knowing more about it. I grew up on this stuff, reading about the stories in books I got from the school library and such, and from there straight to Tolkien and other fantasy. Norse myth is largely responsible for my taste in fiction these days.
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Come for the game, stay for the myths (and rage)
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Not gonna lie, I'm taking notes and may or may not try to sneak in some less-common Norse myth into the next D&D game I run.
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That death explosion was so bullshit. Probably predictable bullshit, as mentioned before, but boss fights take so long here that it's bullshit nevertheless.  Thank you for enduring this for our entertainment. Seconding everybody else in saying the art, narration and ambiance here are all much better than the actual game design. Mraagvpeine posted:I have to ask, how do you type letters like "þ" or "ð" or even "æ"? I'm way late, but I can help with that! You either use the right keyboard setting, copy from the Character Map, or if you use non-standard letters on a daily basis because you study phonetics or something, there's Type IPA.
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Aithon posted:That death explosion was so bullshit. Probably predictable bullshit, as mentioned before, but boss fights take so long here that it's bullshit nevertheless. There's also the Alt codes if you don't want to bother copy/pasting.
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I planned for this to be two videos, but the round-up of all the things I failed to pick up before turned out to amount to only 3 minutes of video (and 35 minutes of raw footage ) Now the only thing left is for me to pick the game apart in an extra video, because I really have a lot to say about it in general. Blood Omen 2 is coming.
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Interesting, they did do the common trait that Odin's spear never misses, just in a way that you could get through.
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I like how they made the spears look as magical as possible to make it less likely you'll think of deflecting them. And I think it's kind of weird they put backer people in two places, and especially put one straight in your way and made so as to ruin the atmosphere as much as possible. e: oh yeah, did you think of trying to attack Odin again after the fight is over? Zanzibar Ham fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Feb 6, 2016 |
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Nope, I did not Now a part of me wants to try Another part tells me that it requires a rerun of the fight
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Yeah, doesn't look like the kind of final boss I'd want to repeat.
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I realize it's not a complaint that really even matters, but it bothers me so much the way Kaunan switches his grip on his sword swings. He goes from having one hand on top to the other in the one frame between having his sword back and over his head to when it hits the ground.
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So, since the game is at an end, I think it's time to get on to the tale of the end of the reign of the aesir, as foretold by the völva and retold to Odin by the giant Vaftrudnir: Ragnarök. These stories live on to us through the Poetic Edda, through the poems Völuspa (Prophecy of the Völva) and Vaftrudnismal (The Sayings of Vaftrudnir). The first one is about a prophetess who tells Odin about the origin of the world and its end; the latter is similar, in which Odin is engaged in a battle of wisdom with the giant Vaftrudnir, who answers his questions about the world one by one. Additionally, the book Gylfaginning from Snorri's Prose Edda quotes both of these directly and gives us more information. The word Ragnarök is etymologically slightly unclear, but "ragna", of the same root as words like "reign" and "regal", means "ruler". "Rök", or in some sources, "rökkr", means either "fate" or "twilight", respectively. Thus, Ragnarök means "fate of the ruling powers", which is to be understood as the aesir. The prophecy foretells that there will come three winters without summers in between, and then three more winters. This shall be known as Fimbulvetr ("mighty winter"), and the ways of men shall fall. Kin will slay kin, brothers will lie with their sisters, and there will be bloodshed and war throughout Midgard. Völuspa posted:Brothers shall fight and fell each other, At the height of this dreadful winter, three roosters will crow: in Asgard, the golden rooster Gullinkambi ("golden-crest"); in Jötunheim, the fiery Fjalar; and in Hel, a soot-red, unnamed rooster. The beasts of the underworld will be set free. The monstrous hound Garm will tear its chains and let loose a howl that will be heard throughout the world. Nidhögg will fly through the skies once more. The mountains will crumble and wolf Fenrir will run free, no longer shackled to them, and his sons Hati and Sköll will devour the sun and the moon after chasing them for so long. Jörmungandr will tremble and rise, and his gyrations will cause dreadful tidal waves. Völuspa posted:O'er the sea from the east there sails a ship From Muspelheim, the giant Surtr ("swarthy one") and his army of fire jötnar will stride towards Asgard. In his hand is a sword of flame brighter than the sun, and the dread ship Naglfar ("nail-ship" or possibly "corpse-ship"), made from the bodies of the dead (or maybe just their nails), will depart, piloted by the jötun Hrymr and carrying the Sons of Muspel, led by Loki, now free of his chains. Guarding the rainbow bridge Bifrost, which connects Asgard and Midgard, the god Heimdall (born of nine mothers, keeper of Yggdrasil) will sound the Gjallarhorn as the army of jötnar approaches, and the aesir will wake and mobilize. The aesir hold councils and prepare for war. Odin rides with haste to Mimirsbrunnr, to consult with Mimir. The einherjar, those warriors who died glorious deaths and reside within Valhall and Sessrumnir, will ride forth to fight for the gods. The dwarves retreat to their halls of stone. Vaftrudnismal posted:Vaftrudnir: Speak forth now, Gagnrath, if there from the floor Völuspa posted:Now comes to Hlin yet another hurt, At last, the hosts of the jötnar and aesir will clash. The wolf Fenrir and allfather Odin will fight, and Fenrir will slay him. His son Vidarr, god of vengeance, will avenge his father by literally tearing the wolf's jaw in half with his foot and hand, and stab the beast through the heart with the spear Gungnir. The hound Garm will swallow the war-god Tyr, but Tyr will stab the hound to death from within its belly before he dies. Jörmungandr will breathe a torrent of poison across the battlefield, and Thor will fight him. The god will successfully slay Jörmungandr, and then take nine steps before falling, dead from the wyrm's poison. Loki and Heimdall will duel, and impale each other on their spears, both dying. Surtr will advance with his fiery sword, and engage Freyr in single combat, but since the vanir no longer has his magic sword that can fight on its own, he will fall. The aesir have fallen and the einherjar have gone to their last deaths. The jötun Surtr, wielding his sword of flame which is like the sun, sets all the world ablaze, and Midgard and Asgard alike will burn and sink underneath the sea. Völuspa posted:The sun turns black, earth sinks in the sea, And so, the world is undone. Gylfaginning posted:Then asked Ganglere: What happens when heaven and earth and all the worlds are consumed in flames, and when all the gods and all the einherjes and all men are dead? You have already said that all men shall live in some world through all ages. Völuspa posted:Now do I see the earth anew The world rises, born anew, from the waves. Idavöllr, the field on which Valhall once stood, is now green and fertile and it grows crops without needing to be sown. The sons of Thor, Magni and Modi, find here their father's hammer, Mjölnir. Odin's son Vidarr joins them, and Baldr and Hödr are released from the underworld. The gods sit in the field and reminisce of the world that is now gone, of the world-serpent and the runes. Together, they erect a new golden hall, which they call Gimli, and which will stand forever as a symbol of an age of peace and joy. But what of mankind? Did it perish in the flames of Surtr? Vaftrudnismal posted:Odin: Much have I fared, much have I found, much have I got of the gods: In the woods around Mimir's well, at the foot of Yggdrasil, two members of mankind have survived: Lif ("life") and her husband Lifthrasir ("lover of life"). They will eat the morning dew for sustenance, and mankind will be reborn from them. Thus ends the prophecies of the völva, and the sayings of Vaftrudnir. That is Ragnarök, the fate of the ruling powers, as foretold. Hyper Crab Tank fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Feb 7, 2016 |
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Alexeythegreat posted:Trying to break past the final boss. So, I backed this game originally, but I've never played it past the beta. Beta was the ice area, and my impressions there was that while the game looked amazingly pretty, the exploration was very slow and dull, and the boss was hard to the point of being frustrating instead of fun. I actually submitted a lot of moves for the fire Jotun, but I don't think any of them got accepted. The one move that did make the cut got moved to the lightning Jotun instead (it was the lightning bolt that blinds you when it hits).
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They really missed a great opportunity when they had Lightning clone herself instead of having her already-separate parts start moving independently from each other.
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Feb 7, 2016 19:43
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Two minor things about Norse myths that I remember that weren't pointed out by Hyper Crab Tank, which HCT can correct me on if I'm wrong. One, the ship Naglfar is constructed from the fingernails and toenails of the dead, and bound by their hair, as those are the only materials they have to construct things of. This stems from observations that a body seems to grow nails and hair after death. It doesn't though, it's just that more hair and nails are exposed as... time passes. Second, "Go to Hel" is a thing people said. A curse, meaning "drop dead." After all, if a fight started and the cursed one died, they would get to go to Valhalla, which was too good a fate, obviously.
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Feb 8, 2016 09:19
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:One, the ship Naglfar is constructed from the fingernails and toenails of the dead, and bound by their hair, as those are the only materials they have to construct things of. This stems from observations that a body seems to grow nails and hair after death. It doesn't though, it's just that more hair and nails are exposed as... time passes. This is certainly the opinion of Snorri Sturluson, as recorded in the Prose Edda. (Gylfaginning: "The ship that is called Naglfar also becomes loose. It is made of the nails of dead men; wherefore it is worth warning that, when a man dies with unpared nails, he supplies a large amount of materials for the building of this ship, which both gods and men wish may be finished as late as possible.") But it is not part of any of the sources from the Poetic Edda, so either Sturluson had access to an oral tradition that mentioned it (or a literary text that did not survive), or he extrapolated himself. I have no idea about the second thing.
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Feb 8, 2016 10:14
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Nemo2342 posted:So, I backed this game originally, but I've never played it past the beta. Beta was the ice area, and my impressions there was that while the game looked amazingly pretty, the exploration was very slow and dull, and the boss was hard to the point of being frustrating instead of fun. Well, unfortunately, it doesn't work as well as it would have if it were isolated. During the Hagalaz fight that blinding effect usually means that you're dead
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Feb 8, 2016 12:29
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Second, "Go to Hel" is a thing people said. A curse, meaning "drop dead." After all, if a fight started and the cursed one died, they would get to go to Valhalla, which was too good a fate, obviously. There is an old, related Faroese curse, which means pretty much the same: "Far niður og norður" - "Go down and north". Since Helheim(u)r was supposed to be cold, dark and terrible place, going north (cold) and down (dark) was a way to wish someone dead without drawing untoward attention to oneself. Best not to invoke the dark powers directly, lest they look upon you, and all that.
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Feb 8, 2016 15:27
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inscrutable horse posted:Best not to invoke the dark powers directly, lest they look upon you, and all that. This was really common in the stories and poems. Look at some of the quotes above, and like these: quote:Surt fares from the south with the scourge of branches, [...] quote:[...] And Beli's fair slayer seeks out Surt, quote:in anger smites the warder of earth, [...] Nine paces fares the son of Fjorgyn, [...] These circumlocutions are called "kennings". "Scourge of branches" means "fire", for instance. "Beli's slayer" is Freyr, the "joy of Frigg" is Odin, and "warder of earth" and "son of Fjorgyn" both refer to Thor. They are very common in Old Norse works.
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Feb 8, 2016 15:51
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