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So yeah we got a few hours left, maybe we should start consolidating our votes a bit? Anyone not voting a vote leader, can you either try one more time to make your case for your current vote, and/or explain why you don't want to vote one of the current vote leaders?
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Friction.123 posted:Say what you want Gulag, I'm kinda done with this game. I didn't expect the level of meta you guys apparently play at, where everyone has their scum tells already figured out, and quite frankly I don't care enough to go through and figure it all out so I can play "correctly". I'd rather just lurk and be lynched, and save myself the headache. When I flip town and you've wasted another lynch I can just read the thread and not give two shits about appearing town anymore. 
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Feb 3, 2016 23:21
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Yeh I'm comfortable with lumpen
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Feb 3, 2016 23:26
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much like d1 case on me, lumpen makes zero sense.
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Feb 3, 2016 23:34
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yeah Lumpen definitely feels like town to me kash have you commented on Meatoes i don't remember?
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Feb 3, 2016 23:36
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GulagDolls posted:much like d1 case on me, lumpen makes zero sense. That's incorrect. His narrative posting is really bad and unless I'm missing something the chart is incorrect
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Feb 3, 2016 23:36
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Kashuno posted:That's incorrect. His narrative posting is really bad and unless I'm missing something the chart is incorrect narrative posting is really bad? what does this mean? errors in chart are meaningless and i'm surprised anyone but lumpen is reading it. im finishing my half-baked friction case.
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Feb 3, 2016 23:41
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Kashuno posted:That's incorrect. His narrative posting is really bad and unless I'm missing something the chart is incorrect can you provide some examples please
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Feb 3, 2016 23:42
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 Votecount for Day 2   Metos (4): JakeP, Flying Leatherman, Captain Foo, Friction.123 Lumpen (3): King Burgundy, Trasson, Kashuno Friction.123 (2): Kashuno, Puntification, GulagDolls, Trasson (2): Lumpen, Captain Foo, 100YrsofAttitude, JakeP (1): Metos Puntification (1): imgay Flying Leatherman (0): JakeP, King Burgundy (0): JakeP, Not Voting (1): TheCog  With 14 alive, it's 8 votes to lynch. The current deadline is February 03rd, 2016 at 8:30 p.m. EST -- that's in about 2 hours, 30 minutes.
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Feb 3, 2016 23:59
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i'm going to leave this as half-baked cause punt did most of the workFriction.123 posted:Maybe I am dumb but it seems pretty obvious to me that taking all your tools for finding scum and putting them out there for all the scum to easily manage is a very scum move? implies that cog and other players advocating the massclaim thing are different, for nebulous reasons. he says others even though I was the only one besides cog for the idea, which tells me these thoughts are manufactured doody. Friction.123 posted:You however strike me as an opportunistic scum jumping on an idea that will allow a scum roleblocker free reign on keeping the town’s tools in check. he initially refuses to answer the question of what makes cog and I different, getting weirdly defensive about it and when he does answer, he STILL doesn’t answer because it was already established that cog wasn’t new to mafia. jakep's post that he cites was made before this was clear and is irrelevant, asiina's post is entirely supposition and makes no freaking sense anyway. 'scum roleblocker' is a very far-reaching, unnatural conclusion, especially for d1, fabricated from air. I agree with punt's posts too, and his most recent post is....um... i want to take credit for a murder so I'll keep my vote here but switch it to whoever has the most votes towards deadline. preferably not lumpen. metos, trasson, and KB are all good candidates but I doubt trasson and KB are gonna pick up steam.
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Feb 4, 2016 00:23
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kb is still beyond weird. his points in th( this post are, in order, a mischaracterization, a point that ignores lumpen's meta, which is impossible to ignore, and a nulltell. i also can't believe that two people believe trasson can't be scum because he said 'I'm town."
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Feb 4, 2016 00:29
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GulagDolls posted:kb is still beyond weird. his points in th( this post are, in order, a mischaracterization, a point that ignores lumpen's meta, which is impossible to ignore, and a nulltell. i also can't believe that two people believe trasson can't be scum because he said 'I'm town." Nope. And on Trasson, he's new, right? The level of mastery you seem to be attributing to the guy in his first game is ridiculous. I think Asiina had the right of it.
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Feb 4, 2016 00:34
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King Burgundy posted:Nope. What mastery?
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Feb 4, 2016 00:35
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Nothing he did was some high level mafia play in any way
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Feb 4, 2016 00:36
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After a reread of him, I'm still null on Metos. I'd vote him if necessary, but he's way down the list. Preference is still Lumpen, Imgay, Friction, FL.
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Feb 4, 2016 00:37
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im screaming. someone tell me what the high-level play is.
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Feb 4, 2016 00:38
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GulagDolls posted:im screaming. someone tell me what the high-level play is. he made a joke about a BSG character being a ninja
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Feb 4, 2016 00:39
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No way that scum could ever fake not having information until it becomes publically available, and no way a player who is new to playing mafia here could ever figure out that playing along that you have the same information as everyone else might be the best way for them to not stand out as different from the townsfolk
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Feb 4, 2016 00:40
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GulagDolls posted:kb is still beyond weird. his points in th( this post are, in order, a mischaracterization, a point that ignores lumpen's meta, which is impossible to ignore, and a nulltell. i also can't believe that two people believe trasson can't be scum because he said 'I'm town." For my part, it's less that he said he was town and more that I read his indignant post as genuine. In contrast, Friction's frustrated post seemed manufactured, at least in part because he said things that didn't make any sense (the only meta case I can think of off the top of my head was Cog saying I sounded weird, and that's not much of a meta case, really). And yeah, I realize this is completely subjective.
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Feb 4, 2016 00:40
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JakeP posted:Nothing he did was some high level mafia play in any way You guys are saying he came up with his fake claim(this part is easy in this setup) and decided to quickly put it into play in a super casual way that looks accidental in one of his opening posts. I'm sorry, that just isn't something I see from new folks. I certainly wasn't anywhere near doing something like that when I started.
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Feb 4, 2016 00:40
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I'm not hugely interested in metos or lumpen, people should join me and gulag on the coolest lynch in town. Kash come back and explain what you mean by narrative posting.
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Feb 4, 2016 00:42
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King Burgundy posted:You guys are saying he came up with his fake claim(this part is easy in this setup) and decided to quickly put it into play in a super casual way that looks accidental in one of his opening posts. I'm sorry, that just isn't something I see from new folks. I certainly wasn't anywhere near doing something like that when I started. lol the dude claimed vanilla town under no pressure at all, must be town! I mean if he was scum he could be coached, or maybe hes just not a complete idiot and decided to subtly claim vanilla town hoping people would believe him that he is vanilla town
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Feb 4, 2016 00:43
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i don't think that's at all unbelievable, but also, trasson has said he's played IRL mafia before, where being casual about saying you're town is maybe the most important thing possible, as scum
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Feb 4, 2016 00:43
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like someone new to mafia can't communicate effectively without coming across as an awkward goon or something
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Feb 4, 2016 00:44
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Flying Leatherman posted:For my part, it's less that he said he was town and more that I read his indignant post as genuine. Lumpen's case on me was meta too. But you are still right. Frictions frustrated post doesn't really make sense for a variety of reasons.
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Feb 4, 2016 00:45
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errrhh ummm *stammer* *blush* hey guys *gulp* im town! *shifts eyes around gauging the reaction of those around him*
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Feb 4, 2016 00:45
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JakeP posted:like someone new to mafia can't communicate effectively without coming across as an awkward goon or something I'm in game 4 here and people still think I sound like an awkward goon, so take that for what it's worth
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Feb 4, 2016 00:46
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JakeP posted:lol the dude claimed vanilla town under no pressure at all, must be town! I haven't seen coaching at that level happen in any game I've been in either. But I know that's anecdotal. JakeP posted:like someone new to mafia can't communicate effectively without coming across as an awkward goon or something Well, is there any new person that starts playing mafia here that we don't instantly think is scum? It's really rare. And it's playing out in this very thread to varying degrees. So I'd say, yes. They can't. GulagDolls posted:i don't think that's at all unbelievable, but also, trasson has said he's played IRL mafia before, where being casual about saying you're town is maybe the most important thing possible, as scum I missed this though. If he's played mafia IRL before it becomes more believable.
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Feb 4, 2016 00:48
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the irl mafia thing was actually metos. I can't keep track of these goonsKing Burgundy posted:
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Feb 4, 2016 00:50
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KB what do you think about Metos hypothesis that your boy Trashins vanilla town claim actually makes him scum?
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Feb 4, 2016 00:52
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GulagDolls posted:the irl mafia thing was actually metos. I can't keep track of these goons Oh hell no. My first mafia was battleship mafia and I spent the whole game being berated for being scummy with only an occasional person trying to stick up for me for being new.
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Feb 4, 2016 00:52
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JakeP posted:KB what do you think about Metos hypothesis that your boy Trashins vanilla town claim actually makes him scum? It's crazy nonsense.
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Feb 4, 2016 00:53
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well, metos is going to have to die because he hasn't posted for *checks watch* an arbitrary, yet unacceptable amount of time.
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Feb 4, 2016 00:53
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K, running to dinner now. Don't think Lumpen has a shot. Swapping before I leave. ##friction I might make it back for the last 30 min since we are leaving a bit early.
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Feb 4, 2016 00:54
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who are you frictioning
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Feb 4, 2016 00:55
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King Burgundy posted:K, running to dinner now. lol nice
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Feb 4, 2016 00:55
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Goddammit. ##vote Friction
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Feb 4, 2016 00:56
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fake day actions are haraam. modkill this guy
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Feb 4, 2016 00:57
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##vote metos i like the casew on him
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Kashuno posted:That's incorrect. His narrative posting is really bad and unless I'm missing something the chart is incorrect This is the most updated I have, please clearly list your top 3 candidates to get updated if I have ~manipulatively misrepresented~ you.   1 hour 23 minutes remain until deadline. My preferred lynches remain: Trasson, King Burgundy, Flying Leatherman
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