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Lumpen posted:As far as I know my chart is correct. I have done the best I can. I promise I do not have a ~nefarious scheme~ to control the game with ~false charting~. It's funny how suspectedness and votes are inverted for friction and metos.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 01:16 |
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Trasson posted:I wouldn't call it abruptly... This sounds pretty genuine. You're mis-representing what makes you scummy but you seemed pretty annoyed. imgay posted:I'm in theater for 445 kungfu panda, heard its best anime of the year, so I won't read for like 2 hrs. imgay posted:##vote metos i like the casew on him Damnit imgay, just go and make me regret saying you seemed to be posting better. I don't get how you're around and aware of the game but not capable of posting your own cases. I'd vote you just out of frustration now. Friction.123 posted:Is this all we get from the long awaited FL post? If people are going to get on my case because I'm supposedly parroting what other players are saying why does this get a pass? Not to mention this point only appears after people start pointing out FL is lurking again. Which he also did D1. You can get mad at Trasson, Metos, and myself if you'd like for the mafia faux pas we have undoubtedly committed, hell I'd even vote for Metos myself out of OMGUS and the "if he's town he's actively hurting us so why not vote for him?" line. drat Friction. You get my support for sheer gusto! Friction.123 posted:Say what you want Gulag, I'm kinda done with this game. I didn't expect the level of meta you guys apparently play at, where everyone has their scum tells already figured out, and quite frankly I don't care enough to go through and figure it all out so I can play "correctly". I'd rather just lurk and be lynched, and save myself the headache. When I flip town and you've wasted another lynch I can just read the thread and not give two shits about appearing town anymore. And there it all went. JakeP posted:The way that is brought up feels like it was a result of a conversation he was having with his scumbuddies really, it doesn't feel organic at all to whats actually happening in the thread I don't quite know how else to explain the whiplash of this tonal shift. ##vote Friction.123 His "gently caress this game moment" maybe suffers from having come after Trassons' but you really see the difference in the two for it. This space is liable to change though. I'd vote Trasson for sure at this moment. I need to re-read Metos. Bear with me please.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 01:23 |
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When I say I'd vote Trasson I mean he's not my top pick, and he's still pretty scummy but I have enough reasonable doubt at this point to prefer friction over him. I'll read Metos as leader, and then work up on my other impressions.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 01:26 |
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id vote friction to not no lynch, im mostly popping in and out between hots games atm not sleeping tho
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 01:33 |
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and really i wouldn't feel like someone pulled my arm to vote friction or anything i just think metos was scummier, but really with frictions throw in the towel post it might just be better to lynch him, since he is A. Scummy B. not gonna try anymore anyway
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 01:34 |
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Updated. If Trasson isn't viable, I'd prefer lynching Friction, but Metos would be okay too, they're both ranked Somewhat Suspicious. Friction.123 posted:Say what you want Gulag, I'm kinda done with this game. I didn't expect the level of meta you guys apparently play at, where everyone has their scum tells already figured out, and quite frankly I don't care enough to go through and figure it all out so I can play "correctly". I'd rather just lurk and be lynched, and save myself the headache. When I flip town and you've wasted another lynch I can just read the thread and not give two shits about appearing town anymore. ##Vote Friction.123
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 01:39 |
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Metos posted:JakeP also hadn't posted anything useful in ages then came out with an unexplained vote after the cop claim. I've just gotten here. I like Metos D1. He explains his train of thought well and why he votes who he votes. He's guilty of easy cases, as Foo pointed out, but that's reasonable coming from a new player. Just like this reaction and vote on jake. It's very knee-jerk and doesn't seem calculated to me at all. Will continue.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 01:44 |
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Votecount for Day 2 Friction.123 (5): Kashuno, Puntification, GulagDolls, Metos (5): JakeP, Flying Leatherman, Captain Foo, Friction.123, imgay Lumpen (2): King Burgundy, Trasson, Kashuno, JakeP (1): Metos Flying Leatherman (0): JakeP, Trasson (0): Lumpen, Captain Foo, 100YrsofAttitude, Puntification (0): imgay, King Burgundy (0): JakeP, Not Voting (1): TheCog With 14 alive, it's 8 votes to lynch. The current deadline is February 03rd, 2016 at 8:30 p.m. EST -- that's in about 30 minutes. 30 minutes Who is here?
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 01:59 |
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For reference, I'm here and would be pretty okay moving my vote if we end up going for Friction today instead. Preview edit: I have good timing.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:00 |
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I'd switch to avoid a no-lynch but I think friction is a better choice.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:02 |
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Hello, I'm sorry to say that I'm currently in the middle of a super fight with my girlfriend and am posting while pretending to have stomach problems in the bathroom before returning. Douche move I know but relationship comes before Mafia. I'm moving my vote to friction for obvious reasons, I can post more once she leaves for sword class in about 6 hours if it's a quick night phase. ##unvote ##vote friction
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:04 |
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I have no immediate arguments against Friction, but that's mostly because a vote for him is a vote that isn't for me. I'll go and reread his stuff and come back with a final opinion, but it looks like we're approaching a decision between him and no lynch so I'm not sure that my opinion matters much. I'll come back with a decision in ~10-15 minutes.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:05 |
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Metos posted:Hello, I'm sorry to say that I'm currently in the middle of a super fight with my girlfriend and am posting while pretending to have stomach problems in the bathroom before returning. Douche move I know but relationship comes before Mafia. Lol, what weaponry are you trained in? I hope you are wearing your finest chainmail.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:06 |
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Sword Class
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:08 |
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i cannot believe that post lmfao
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:09 |
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I've got 20 minutes. I'm leaning heavily Friction (I still really like my case on his D1 behavior, nothing he's said as really changed that) between him and Metos after reading Metos posts. I need to read them in light of Jake's comments but as of now Metos just seems like New town using dumb incomprehensible new town logic to be brief. I also need to cover friction super quickly.Metos posted:Hello, I'm sorry to say that I'm currently in the middle of a super fight with my girlfriend and am posting while pretending to have stomach problems in the bathroom before returning. Douche move I know but relationship comes before Mafia. Hey. Good luck with that.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:11 |
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##vote friction i wanna go play a hots game prolly wont be back before deadline at this point
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:13 |
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GOOD MORROW FRIENDS
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:14 |
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GulagDolls posted:]i want to take credit for a murder so I'll keep my vote here Somebody quote this for me on D3 please
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:15 |
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Oh I see deadline is soon and I don't have time read through things and can't swing the vote well here we are you failures ##vote friction Friction in the future please play more Mafia! The first couple games especially can be rough, but you put a good amount of effort into your posting and I earnestly hope you come play more (I'm recruiting for a game now if you're interested!) a
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:16 |
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Friction.123
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:17 |
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Friction.123 posted:Well Lumpen, I promised you a write up later tonight and here it is. I'll preface by saying I went into this day expecting to be dogpiled, and that didn't happen so its time to give the posting a bit more thought. Strangest thing on my 2nd look here is the 180 switch from Lumpen to KB Known enemies. Dunno what to make of that.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:17 |
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hmm, rereading Friction's posts, umm, wow. I kind of see what some of you mean by low content, there's really not much to actually go on when you just take his stuff, The question is, is it calculated low content or is it "I have no idea what to actually post" low content. A bit of analysis: Friction's a BSG player (like me) with some in person experience (like me, but he probably has more because it's really hard to have less). Therefore, he's used to working off of hard evidence: who draws Piloting and what Destinations in BSG, or who sounds like they're lying and who seems sincere in IRL Mafia. There's a lot less hard evidence going around in PbP, which frustrates him. Or he's playing deep cover and pretending to be the innocent newbie who's frustrated with the different way of things. The problem is, I can't accuse him of being scum and doing that without undermining any credibility I have for being in a similar situation. This isn't helped by the fact that like half of his actual content is defending me. Is that trying to find a like minded town buddy or using a (if he's scum) almost certain town as a smokescreen? "If you think I'm scum then he's scum" sort of thing, I guess. On the other hand, he hasn't posted since his (real?) ragequit post. I'll vote him to get a noncontributor out, but I can't really say he's scum without reservations. If he's scum, great! I'll call that a lucky break on my part and good reads from others. If he's town, he wasn't helping us going out like that, so that's better than lynching a useful townie, but it's definitely not the best result.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:19 |
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well that got invalidated. See y'all after nighttime.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:20 |
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GOODNIGHT THREAD
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:20 |
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STOP POSTING AFTER HAMMER.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:22 |
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Votecount for Day 2 Friction.123 (8): Kashuno, Puntification, GulagDolls, Metos (4): JakeP, Flying Leatherman, Captain Foo, Friction.123, imgay, Lumpen (1): King Burgundy, Trasson, Kashuno, JakeP (0): Metos, Flying Leatherman (0): JakeP, Trasson (0): Lumpen, Captain Foo, 100YrsofAttitude, Puntification (0): imgay, King Burgundy (0): JakeP, Not Voting (1): TheCog With 14 alive, it's 8 votes to lynch. The current deadline is February 03rd, 2016 at 8:30 p.m. EST -- that's in about 0 minutes.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:41 |
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After a second day of the Astral Queen's lockdown, tensions are rising while accusations fly every which way. They eventually converge upon one person... Friction.123, TOWN VERSATILE BACKUP, has been lynched on Day 2! quote:The Cylons were created by man. They evolved. They rebelled. There are many copies. And they have a plan. It is now Night 2. Please send me your actions promptly. Thread will likely open tomorrow morning EST. Two important game announcements: - The Anti-Lurking Rule is no longer in effect because you're all great. - TheCog is still in the game.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:42 |
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Opening the thread early as I have a very busy morning tomorrow. Another morning dawns, and one of the newer prisoners is found dead in their cell... Puntification, TOWN VERSATILE BACKUP, has died on Night 2! quote:The Cylons were created by man. They evolved. They rebelled. There are many copies. And they have a plan. ...but he's not the only one, as one of the most notorious prisoners' absence quickly becomes apparent when their imposing presence is missing with the new day! Kashuno, TOWN BULLETPROOF MILLER, has died on Night 2! quote:The Cylons were created by man. They evolved. They rebelled. There are many copies. And they have a plan. It is now Day 3. Deadline is 8:30 PM EST Friday. I will be traveling and won't be around to enforce this deadline, so play nice and respect the hammer. Flip will probably be posted the next morning by ~12:30 AM or so.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 06:04 |
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Votecount for Day 3 Not Voting (11): 100YrsofAttitude, Captain Foo, Flying Leatherman, GulagDolls, imgay, JakeP, King Burgundy, Lumpen, Metos, TheCog, Trasson With 11 alive, it's 6 votes to lynch. The current deadline is February 05th, 2016 at 8:30 p.m. EST -- that's in about 1 day, 20 hours.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 06:05 |
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Good morning thread!
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 06:20 |
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so yeah that friction lynch definitely happened really easy. The metos lynch also started to pick up a bit there too. I been drinking, but i have a feeling that there were scum players that were eager to jump on that friction lynch and i intend to sniff them out in the morning when I am more sober. Be warned scum your days are numbered!
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 06:22 |
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also that kash death i think explains the lack of NK night 1, the only way he could have died today was if he was also targeted night 1 so that is 100% what happened.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 06:23 |
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unless SK kill goes through BP?
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 06:23 |
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JakeP posted:unless SK kill goes through BP? It does, the SK is unstoppable.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 06:28 |
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This is lylo now, right? Is there any reason to not mass claim now? This feels like a must to me.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 06:30 |
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Podima posted:
No mention of how it interacts with BP, just Jail and Doc. Podima can you confirm how the SK interacts with BP?
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 06:30 |
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JakeP posted:No mention of how it interacts with BP, just Jail and Doc. Podima can you confirm how the SK interacts with BP? Yeah, I just checked that, it just says in both the PM and the OP that it can't be roleblocked or jailed and it can even hit a jailed target, so Kashuno must have died to n1 poison.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 06:32 |
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Probably they poisoned someone else last night then. And tomorrow night there could be 3 kills, 1 sk, 1 nk, 1 poison from previous night.King Burgundy posted:This is lylo now, right?
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 06:36 |
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King Burgundy posted:This is lylo now, right? votefinder posted:Votecount for Day 3 Quoting this for my own reference while I work this out, more for my own practice than for anyone else's need.. There's 1 SK and four mafia left, so six townies. Of the four inheritable roles, three are up for grabs, so the total loadout is 1 SK, 4 Mafia, three power towns, three vanilla towns. If we lynch a town, then we go to 1/4/5. If SK and Mafia both shoot a town, that's 1/4/3, which doesn't trigger any endgame condition? Mafia are "You win when nothing can stop you from taking control of the ship" and 1/4/3 is eight left so five to lynch; they don't even control majority. The SK is the wildcard there on whether or not the game is winnable at that point, but it's not impossible. If in the upcoming lynch is the SK and the Mafia NK a town, that's 4/5. Still winnable. If the upcoming lynch is a town, the SK kills a town, and the Mafia take out the SK, then we have 4/4, which is a Mafia win. If the lynch hits a Mafia, the SK hits a Mafia, and the Mafia hit a jailed/doctored target, we celebrate. 1/2/6 sounds much better. Anything in between that and the above isn't as good but still wildly better. As an exercise: if we no-lynch, the worst cases are SK->Town/Mafia->Town: we go from 1/4/6 to 1/4/4, which is just a hair better than the 1/4/3 above, while SK->Town/Mafia->SK results in going from 1/4/6 to 4/5. That's...better odds than I was thinking. So, if I have the permutations right (there's probably something I'm forgetting; like I said, this is more for my own practice, I imagine some of you could carry this math in your head) then it's not LYLO, strictly. We can still win after lynching a town, but it's unpleasant. We actually have better odds (better as in no routes lead straight to absolute defeat. I can't speak for better as in better actual chances to win) on a no lynch than we do lynching a town, so that's a thing.
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