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I was going to say Ralphus, but I think he was eventually shitcanned for demanding more money.
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The answer is of course Big Sexy.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 23:33 |
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Seems like hall had a lot of fun there.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 00:15 |
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Bet Scott Steiner loved his time in WCW as well. He could cut all the insulting promos he wanted, he could take a loving tiger to the ring with him, and he could do a lot to take care of his freaks and his peaks (as in 'take all the steroids on Earth').
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 00:27 |
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Germansimp posted:he could take a loving tiger to the ring with him I was always curious about that part; he takes a tiger down to the ring with him, pets it a little bit, and then it's taken backstage all in the span of about fifteen seconds. It's all so random and out of place you get the feeling that he probably didn't tell anyone about it until the tiger was already in the building.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 00:37 |
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ayn rand hand job posted:He filed a defamation suit against the company. Well yeah but before that it was a party for him. Scott Hall seemed to like his time there though he wasn't in the most lucid state at the time.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 02:44 |
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It really takes some massive balls and absolutely no conscience to sue a company that basically treated you like the second coming of Jesus because somebody made a factual statement about your hairline. Then again I vaguely remember the story about when Jericho left Hogan saying "take me with you." Of course this story revolves around believing that Hogan knew Jericho existed.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 03:15 |
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ChrisBTY posted:It really takes some massive balls and absolutely no conscience to sue a company that basically treated you like the second coming of Jesus because somebody made a factual statement about your hairline. That wasn't the full reason before the lawsuit. Russo went way, way overboard and off script with an agreed upon script involving a guy who had creative control. Hogan sued and the judge upheld that his creative control clause was violated.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 04:19 |
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That Russo promo was pretty good tho
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 05:33 |
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Smoking Crow posted:That Russo promo was pretty good tho I guess if you like more of the same repetitive nonsense and have too much pent up hatred for Big Wood.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 05:39 |
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MassRafTer posted:I guess if you like more of the same repetitive nonsense and have too much pent up hatred for Big Wood. I mainly think its a good promo because of the passion involved in the delivery and the vivid picture Russo paints of the storyline. When he promises Hogan will never return to WCW "or else I'll go in the GOD drat GRAVE," and refers to the title as the "Hulk Hogan Memorial Belt," he injects a lot of power into his words. Granted, I've only seen that promo in a vacuum and you've actually watched all the WCW surrounding it, so you'd be in a better position to judge it's repetitiveness. But in that vacuum, where I think most people watch that promo, it seems like a shining example of the theoretically potential of a Worked Shoot. I've been of the opinion for some time that the kernel of good intent in Russo's booking style is that he wants to bring back that feeling that you can only have when you think wrestling is real. The feeling that anything can happen because it's real life and real fighting. Unless I misremember, the announcers even claim that the match between Booker and Jarret after that promo is "actually real." I think the way Russo sees it is that Worked Shoots can bring that feeling of suspense back. If the audience is told point blank that the script exists but also that at any moment the guys in the ring might decide to throw it out, they'll constantly be waiting for it to happen and wrestling can perhaps become "real," again. In a complete vacuum, I can see how BATB 2000 could have succeeded in creating that feeling. But it doesn't exist in a vacuum, and like you said in the end its just another one of a long sting of lovely worked shoot promos that make no sense to people who don't know what "doing the job," is.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 16:34 |
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Just a little bit of random WCW nostalgia. My first wrestling show was a 1992 WCW house show in Oakland when I was 7 and it was headlined by Sting vs. Rick Rude in a cage match. One of my good buddies was also at that show, we went back and looked at the card and holy poo poo it had a ton of guys who were or went on to be stars: http://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=48630 Nash, Dustin Rhodes, Austin, Foley, Steiners, Arn Anderson, Ron Simmons, etc. Crazy to think about now.
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Jenkem Delivery posted:Just a little bit of random WCW nostalgia. My first wrestling show was a 1992 WCW house show in Oakland when I was 7 and it was headlined by Sting vs. Rick Rude in a cage match. One of my good buddies was also at that show, we went back and looked at the card and holy poo poo it had a ton of guys who were or went on to be stars: http://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=48630 I went to the link prepared to find some no-name to mock but came up short outside of like curtis hughes, who I have no joke material about
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Aesop Poprock posted:I went to the link prepared to find some no-name to mock but came up short outside of like curtis hughes, who I have no joke material about It did have Marc Mero
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 18:28 |
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Smoking Crow posted:It did have Marc Mero Don't punch down, bro
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 18:34 |
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Sanguinia posted:I mainly think its a good promo because of the passion involved in the delivery and the vivid picture Russo paints of the storyline. When he promises Hogan will never return to WCW "or else I'll go in the GOD drat GRAVE," and refers to the title as the "Hulk Hogan Memorial Belt," he injects a lot of power into his words. Granted, I've only seen that promo in a vacuum and you've actually watched all the WCW surrounding it, so you'd be in a better position to judge it's repetitiveness. But in that vacuum, where I think most people watch that promo, it seems like a shining example of the theoretically potential of a Worked Shoot. The crowd was very not into that idea though. Hogan was way more over than Jarrett at that point and then when Russo did his promo he got a lot of heat for it. Hogan sucks but aside from Goldberg or Sting or Flair he was probably still the most over guy in the company.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 18:34 |
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I was watching Hannibal Burress' new special on Netflix and he was talking about how Hogan was his intro to Jimi Hendrix (after making fun of his dad for getting into the Wire late), and then he goes "Then I found out Jimi's dead and Hogan's a racist, my whole world is crumblin'!"
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 01:06 |
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voodoo chili
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 01:09 |
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Sanguinia posted:I mainly think its a good promo because of the passion involved in the delivery and the vivid picture Russo paints of the storyline. When he promises Hogan will never return to WCW "or else I'll go in the GOD drat GRAVE," and refers to the title as the "Hulk Hogan Memorial Belt," he injects a lot of power into his words. Granted, I've only seen that promo in a vacuum and you've actually watched all the WCW surrounding it, so you'd be in a better position to judge it's repetitiveness. But in that vacuum, where I think most people watch that promo, it seems like a shining example of the theoretically potential of a Worked Shoot. This was after Russo's run with the WCW title. Russo was stale and awful and hearing his lovely Iron Man theme song made me groan, by this point. We didn't like Russo, we didn't want to see him on TV, we didn't want to listen to his promoes.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 02:30 |
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Russo finally appearing on screen was a huge misstep (though given the timing I'm not sure anyone noticed in the wake of the many other missteps.) Eric Bischoff kinda sorta worked as a character- like all things nWo you eventually wanted him to just go away- but Russo comes off as scummy in the wrong way. Still better than Dixie though.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 03:09 |
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Watching the Spring Break Nitro. I gotta give them credit, that's a pretty cool idea to have it at a club surrounded by a pool. When every arena looks the same something different once a year make it seem more like anything can happen. Like Kevin Nash declaring himself Spring Break '98 Cannonball Champion before escaping The Giant.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 03:15 |
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The American Dream posted:Watching the Spring Break Nitro. I gotta give them credit, that's a pretty cool idea to have it at a club surrounded by a pool. When every arena looks the same something different once a year make it seem more like anything can happen. I'd probably tune into RAW just to check the set if they started doing that again.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 03:25 |
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One of these days I want to read all 360 pages of this thread like a novel. At the beginning of this thread Hulk Hogan was semi-respected retired wrestler and has fallen to the depths of outcasted crusty racist that has to play fantasy football on twitter for money.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 03:44 |
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Chromatic posted:One of these days I want to read all 360 pages of this thread like a novel. At the start of this thread I hated him, now he is in the very least my favorite heel of all time. He's up there for favorite wrestler too.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 03:59 |
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The first page of this thread was 2009 during hogans insanely poo poo tna stuff I don't think he had a ton of goodwill running then either except ironically
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 04:15 |
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And yet throughout this thread Scott Steiner has remained the shining light of virtue, mathematical genius and chain mail hats we all deserve.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 08:43 |
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Aesop Poprock posted:The first page of this thread was 2009 during hogans insanely poo poo tna stuff I don't think he had a ton of goodwill running then either except ironically When he left TNA, he had full control over how he left in storyline, and he did it by actually walking out while Dixie held his leg crying and begging him to stay. To this day that's the only time I've liked Hulk Hogan BrigadierSensible posted:And yet throughout this thread Scott Steiner has remained the shining light of virtue, mathematical genius and chain mail hats we all deserve. He was right about Hulk all along. He deserved more love than we were able to give
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 08:55 |
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present day scott steiner is extremely gross and sad
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 08:59 |
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oatgan posted:present day scott steiner is extremely gross and sad This is true of like 98% of wrestlers whose heyday was 15+ years ago.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 12:25 |
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oatgan posted:present day scott steiner is extremely gross and sad The hell you say https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHcjmOtUSXM He is a hero to all people
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Chris James 2 posted:When he left TNA, he had full control over how he left in storyline, and he did it by actually walking out while Dixie held his leg crying and begging him to stay. To this day that's the only time I've liked Hulk Hogan
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 21:26 |
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rotinaj posted:The hell you say MAYBE ITS RIGHT, MAYBE IT AINT
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 22:21 |
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Another WCW alumn gets a hall of fame ring elsewhere https://twitter.com/WWEUniverse/status/696159460981657600
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# ? Feb 7, 2016 03:38 |
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I remember Kevin Greene actually being okay in the ring and was definitely better than Mongo.
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# ? Feb 7, 2016 04:11 |
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bartok posted:I remember Kevin Greene actually being okay in the ring and was definitely better than Mongo. He really wasn't.
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# ? Feb 7, 2016 05:04 |
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ayn rand hand job posted:He really wasn't. You're probably right but Greene had natural athletic ability which can hide a lot of shortcomings. Plus I can't help but have a negative opinion of Mongo after the whole will Jeff Jarrett join the 4 Horsemen storyline. All those awful incoherent promos with Mongo and Debra were brutal.
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# ? Feb 7, 2016 05:18 |
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I'm better than Mongo at wrestling
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# ? Feb 7, 2016 05:25 |
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bartok posted:You're probably right but Greene had natural athletic ability which can hide a lot of shortcomings. Plus I can't help but have a negative opinion of Mongo after the whole will Jeff Jarrett join the 4 Horsemen storyline. All those awful incoherent promos with Mongo and Debra were brutal. Medium Kev was really good for someone who ended up having four matches. Mongo owns though.
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# ? Feb 7, 2016 05:28 |
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oatgan posted:present day scott steiner is extremely gross and sad This statement has a 141 and 2/3's chance of being incorrect.
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# ? Feb 7, 2016 05:43 |
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Smoking Crow posted:I'm better than Mongo at wrestling But how are you at the game of human chess? MD2020 fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Feb 7, 2016 |
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