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Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

BigBoss posted:

Playboy just released their first "new" non nude mag. They've got like a year, maybe 18 months left.

Honestly that seems like the most sensible thing they could do. They can't compete with Internet porn, they might as well try to rebrand themselves as a Maxim style magazine that teenage boys are actually allowed to buy. Magazines as a whole industry are dying, so it may not save them in the end, but trying to reach a wider audience can't hurt. The ironic thing about the old joke is that a lot of people actually did read Playboy for the articles. They actually used to have really good interviews. If they fail it'll be because websites are obsoleting magazines in general, not because they stopped doing nude centerfolds.

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nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

I had a Zune.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


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Entropic posted:

Honestly that seems like the most sensible thing they could do. They can't compete with Internet porn, they might as well try to rebrand themselves as a Maxim style magazine that teenage boys are actually allowed to buy. Magazines as a whole industry are dying, so it may not save them in the end, but trying to reach a wider audience can't hurt. The ironic thing about the old joke is that a lot of people actually did read Playboy for the articles. They actually used to have really good interviews. If they fail it'll be because websites are obsoleting magazines in general, not because they stopped doing nude centerfolds.

Their interviews haven't been good since 2011 or so iirc. All their better writers got jobs with more respected outlets like the New Yorker and Esquire and some ever work for TV production companies doctoring scripts

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

I bought Playboy once every 5 years when it was the only way to get the newest Stephen King short story

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

Booblord Zagats posted:

Their interviews haven't been good since 2011 or so iirc. All their better writers got jobs with more respected outlets like the New Yorker and Esquire and some ever work for TV production companies doctoring scripts

I did say "used to". Maybe they'll try to raise their respectability and get some talent back. I doubt it though. They'll probably just become a Maxim clone and fade into obscurity. The magazine will keep going in some form until Hef finally dies and then probably get shut down or turned into a web portal or just become a t-shirt brand like Atari or CBGB's.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

I had a Dell DJ.

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


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Thanks for getting my joke, brad. I thought it had been lost on these Philistines

LethalGeek
Nov 4, 2009

BigBoss posted:

Playboy just released their first "new" non nude mag. They've got like a year, maybe 18 months left.
Seriously what point do you just go gently caress it we're done? I'm apparently a stupid business person cause I'd have throw in the towel instead of bleeding money forever.

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Entropic posted:

I had a Dell DJ.

I had a minidisc player.

BigBoss
Jan 26, 2012

by Lowtax

Entropic posted:

Honestly that seems like the most sensible thing they could do. They can't compete with Internet porn, they might as well try to rebrand themselves as a Maxim style magazine that teenage boys are actually allowed to buy. Magazines as a whole industry are dying, so it may not save them in the end, but trying to reach a wider audience can't hurt. The ironic thing about the old joke is that a lot of people actually did read Playboy for the articles. They actually used to have really good interviews. If they fail it'll be because websites are obsoleting magazines in general, not because they stopped doing nude centerfolds.

It's actually the opposite because it was the only point of differentiation they had and a key component of their identity. Their main business is selling the brand/logo, and a major part of that is the Playmates. No one is buying Maxim branded stuff (or Esquire, New Yorker, etc) because they aren't aspirational lifestyle brands peddling a dream. For Playboy it would be worthwhile to lose money on the magazine, consider it a marketing expense, and make all their real money licensing the brand. It's the same reason Ford made the Ford GT. They didn't expect to make any money on the car, but it made people interested in Fords and consider buying Fusions.

Tony quidprano
Jan 19, 2014
IM SO BAD AT ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT F1 IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY SOME DUDE WITH TOO MUCH FREE MONEY WILL KEEP CHANGING IT UNTIL I SHUT THE FUCK UP OR ACTUALLY POST SOMETHING THAT ISNT SPEWING HATE/SLURS/TELLING PEOPLE TO KILL THEMSELVES

BigBoss posted:

It's actually the opposite because it was the only point of differentiation they had and a key component of their identity. Their main business is selling the brand/logo, and a major part of that is the Playmates. No one is buying Maxim branded stuff (or Esquire, New Yorker, etc) because they aren't aspirational lifestyle brands peddling a dream. For Playboy it would be worthwhile to lose money on the magazine, consider it a marketing expense, and make all their real money licensing the brand. It's the same reason Ford made the Ford GT. They didn't expect to make any money on the car, but it made people interested in Fords and consider buying Fusions.

Stop thinking sensibly, that magazine's costs is another 13 cents in dividends the shareholders could be getting this quarter.

Also is any of film developers still around? I know polaroid is like a captive brand at this point that's name you can buy to slap on your product, but Fuji and Kodak have to be fairly worried.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Playboy might as well be dead...the Mansion is up for sale for $200 mil (although with the catch that Hef gets to live there until he dies).

http://www.npr.org/2016/01/16/463206919/playboy-mansion-for-sale-bunnies-not-included

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender
Mad Magazine

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

FlamingLiberal posted:

Playboy might as well be dead...the Mansion is up for sale for $200 mil (although with the catch that Hef gets to live there until he dies).

http://www.npr.org/2016/01/16/463206919/playboy-mansion-for-sale-bunnies-not-included

What's the saying? "Shirt sleeve to shirt sleeve in 3 generations." Hef managed to do it in one.

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dreezy
Mar 4, 2015

yeah, rip.
so apparently twitter hosed up today by turning into facebook or some poo poo and people are posting #RIPtwitter. and you know what i have to say to that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKLmZNnMT0A

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax

vyst posted:

So do I need to keep this boner or not

100% keep, and prolly PM that guy and see if he wants to have a go

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro
We have a Kmart and a Sears here.

Only people who go to the Kmart are Mexicans, and I don't mean Hispanic people, I mean Mexicans who live and work in Mexico because we're a half hour trip from the nearest checkpoint. The only people who shop at Sears are idiots who still think Craftsman makes good tools and people who don't shop around for tires.

We just got a Super Wal*Mart like 5 years back and it's actually doing worse numbers than the regular Wal Mart it replaced. Our Target and grocery stores do very solid business though.

We also have a Staples that is only in business because the lease they signed makes them have to stay open until 2018 or the city will charge them the entire cost of building the shopping center they put up for the Staples in the first place.

Up until 2010 we also had 5 Radioshacks in a town of 60k, with one that sold nothing but Cellphones and one who actually had really cool poo poo from the 1993 catalog still on the shelves. The other three sold batteries, cheap RC toys and lightbulbs. The cellphone one tanked the moment we got a Best Buy. The one that had all the old poo poo stayed open the longest because the franchise owner also started a comic shop/lovely pizzareia in half of the building that catered mostly to Warhammer and Magic players. Those parts just took over the Radioshack half slowly until he was let out of his franchise deal.

Seriously though I go to way too many Chamber of Commerce meetings

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Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Old Country Buffet is closing 74 stores. A lot of that is due to a changing market, and also probably due to all the legal action against them for shady stuff.

My firat "adult" job was washing dishes in the one in our mall. I quit in the middle of a shift three weeks later because it was just that lovely. They had people who were underage work past 10 until everything was clean, and clocked us out before that so they wouldn't get in trouble. I'm glad the brand is dying a fiery death.

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


Casimir Radon posted:

Old Country Buffet is closing 74 stores. A lot of that is due to a changing market, and also probably due to all the legal action against them for shady stuff.

My firat "adult" job was washing dishes in the one in our mall. I quit in the middle of a shift three weeks later because it was just that lovely. They had people who were underage work past 10 until everything was clean, and clocked us out before that so they wouldn't get in trouble. I'm glad the brand is dying a fiery death.

I've been to the only one in my city and it was not worth the price at all. Like, it was worse than cafeteria food at the weird hospital I went to in the middle of nowhere.

TVs Ian
Jun 1, 2000

Such graceful, delicate creatures.

nooneofconsequence posted:

I had a minidisc player.

I had an Iomega HipZip. And an Apple Newton, but that's a different line of doomed devices. Got both cheap when I worked at OfficeMax and they went on "why is this still in the store" clearance.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009




I had a Zune HD. I unironically loved that little fucker. A shame it didn't work out

jenny jones fan
Dec 24, 2007
Anyone upset that Quiznos barely exists any more, just know that their franchising scheme was so predatory, hosed up, and designed so the owners made no money to the point that a guy killed himself and wrote a two page essay about how evil Quiznos corporate is.

reignofevil
Nov 7, 2008

Automatic Slim posted:

Well, has anyone ever just leveled with the staff of a company this size and come outright and said things are looking bleak?

I wanna hear more stories about CEO's pretending to be Churchill ITT:

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Melmac posted:

Anyone upset that Quiznos barely exists any more, just know that their franchising scheme was so predatory, hosed up, and designed so the owners made no money to the point that a guy killed himself and wrote a two page essay about how evil Quiznos corporate is.

Sounds like he just couldn't handle the American dream

jenny jones fan
Dec 24, 2007

Entropic posted:

I did say "used to". Maybe they'll try to raise their respectability and get some talent back. I doubt it though. They'll probably just become a Maxim clone and fade into obscurity. The magazine will keep going in some form until Hef finally dies and then probably get shut down or turned into a web portal or just become a t-shirt brand like Atari or CBGB's.

Speaking of Maxim, I read one the other day whole waiting in a doctor's office and the magazine is so strange now.

It used to be filled with bro guides and beer info and stuff like that, plus it was the only place to see hot celebrities that won't do nudity. Now..... I don't even know what the hell it is honestly. 95% ads and like three pages of a serious interview with the unknown model on the cover. It really is an entirely different magazine. I can't imagine that working better than their old model.

I stopped reading Mad magazine as soon as they replaced fake funny ads with real ones. I don't know if it was all in my head but that seemed to be when I no longer liked it. Probably just a placebo. I feel bad for them. It was such a great magazine to have growing up, even in the late 90s it was hilarious. They didn't treat the reader like they were kids.

jenny jones fan
Dec 24, 2007

vyst posted:

Sounds like he just couldn't handle the American dream

Imagine naming Quiznos in your suicide note.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2007/02/24/business/24quiznos.html?ex=1329973200&en=2669d9122877e661&ei=5090&

Seriously, gently caress em. I'm glad they only exist in like, two states in the country.

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Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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how the gently caress is dairy queen still rolling all of their food tastes like it was fried in 10w40

i stupidly re-try it like once every three years and nope that must definitely be childhood nostalgia

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


They're sending me Men's Health for some reason right now. It's a horrifying mix of bro science, bad sex advice, and reviews and ads for dumb luxury items I would never buy no matter how rich I was.

Inzombiac posted:

I've been to the only one in my city and it was not worth the price at all. Like, it was worse than cafeteria food at the weird hospital I went to in the middle of nowhere.
My brother managed to work there for two years. No idea why he didn't look for something better sooner.

BigBoss
Jan 26, 2012

by Lowtax

Melmac posted:

Speaking of Maxim, I read one the other day whole waiting in a doctor's office and the magazine is so strange now.

It used to be filled with bro guides and beer info and stuff like that, plus it was the only place to see hot celebrities that won't do nudity. Now..... I don't even know what the hell it is honestly. 95% ads and like three pages of a serious interview with the unknown model on the cover. It really is an entirely different magazine. I can't imagine that working better than their old model.

I stopped reading Mad magazine as soon as they replaced fake funny ads with real ones. I don't know if it was all in my head but that seemed to be when I no longer liked it. Probably just a placebo. I feel bad for them. It was such a great magazine to have growing up, even in the late 90s it was hilarious. They didn't treat the reader like they were kids.

They had a new EIC come over from Vogue or something and try and push the magazine "upscale" and "millennial". She got shitcanned last month after a magazine that is given away for free saw declining circulation. That happens a lot with media and marketing. People in that industry get trapped in a bubble. They forget that 99% of their audience aren't trust fund Oberlin grads like them. They're bros from Iowa who work at Shoneys and love the UFC.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Jonny 290 posted:

how the gently caress is dairy queen still rolling all of their food tastes like it was fried in 10w40

i stupidly re-try it like once every three years and nope that must definitely be childhood nostalgia

Blizzard carries the brand.

naem
May 29, 2011

Do people still purchase glossy magazines to display on their coffee table to pretend they are of a higher social class than they are or do we all just stare at our phones now

BigBoss
Jan 26, 2012

by Lowtax

naem posted:

Do people still purchase glossy magazines to display on their coffee table to pretend they are of a higher social class than they are or do we all just stare at our phones now

There are a lot of people who still like physical media. Hell, records are acoustically the worst possible way to hear music and people still use them.

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich
I think records are a little different than magazines though. If you collect records you're just a sperg lord. If you collect magazines you're a hoarder

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


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vyst posted:

I had a Zune HD. I unironically loved that little fucker. A shame it didn't work out

In a ton of technical ways the Zune was a million times better and much easier for people with pirated music to use. But iTunes was just such a slick and simple system and the ad campaign was the textbook definition of right place at the right time.

BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK
Jan 26, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

BigBoss posted:

There are a lot of people who still like physical media. Hell, records are acoustically the worst possible way to hear music and people still use them.

Actually, they sound much warmer and more life-like than digital audio

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:

Actually, they sound much warmer and more life-like than digital audio

Just like my drat balls

Aleph Null
Jun 10, 2008

You look very stressed
Tortured By Flan

BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:

Actually, they sound much warmer and more life-like than digital audio

*crackle pop hiss*

Harald
Jul 10, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
The Kohler faucet company

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BigBoss
Jan 26, 2012

by Lowtax

BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:

Actually, they sound much warmer and more life-like than digital audio

Sometimes it's too easy.

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