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The nvidia conference is in April right? How soon after can we expect the new gen of cards in stores?
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Feb 8, 2016 23:33
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afkmacro posted:The nvidia conference is in April right? How soon after can we expect the new gen of cards in stores? Somewhere between holy poo poo Titan XYZ dropping right then and a few months after AMD's. Have fun, we ought to make a betting pool. I'm personally in the camp of advising people waiting on Pascal that Polaris should be a good sneak peek of next gen's performance.
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Feb 8, 2016 23:39
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xthetenth posted:Somewhere between holy poo poo Titan XYZ dropping right then and a few months after AMD's. Have fun, we ought to make a betting pool. "A few months" might be up to two quarters later, and it looks like I may have been wrong about AMDs release strategy (shocker) - looks like It's Ellesmere (Polaris11) and Vega (Polaris10) being released. If Vega is potent enough, it can still make some sense to release it as a Halotier product without interfering with Fury, 390 and 380 sales, like think single chip 28-32TFLOP. I mean closest we know to a price for Vega is 1700$ and would anyone really be surprised at a 14nm HBM2 product launching at roughly 1300-1500$? Ellesmere though will functionally replace the 370 and below in capability which won't really hurt AMD and allows them first foot in on mobile 14nm which they desperately need, and hopefully their mobile line up can compete with everything but the 980M/980.
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Feb 9, 2016 10:14
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Do keep in mind that prototype cards are generally valued much higher than their production counterparts.
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Feb 9, 2016 14:13
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this just in 15 hours ago, the review we've all been waiting for http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/video-card-review-geforce-gtx-980-ti-vs-radeon-r9-fury-x/
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Feb 9, 2016 23:03
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:this just in 15 hours ago, the review we've all been waiting for Obviously a bunch of nvidia shills.
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Feb 9, 2016 23:46
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Where the new cards? Where are my 4k 30" IPS @ 144hz monitors? 
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Feb 10, 2016 01:42
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Tab8715 posted:Where the new cards? FTFY. I mean, shoot for the moon 
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Feb 10, 2016 01:52
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:this just in 15 hours ago, the review we've all been waiting for I like that they needed a Physicist/Professor to tell me what I knew seven months ago.
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Feb 10, 2016 01:57
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1075 mhz clock on the 980ti too lol
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Feb 10, 2016 06:26
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Looking to upgrade my MSI 560Ti. Would the MSI 970 be a decent choice for upgrade? Right now I'm playing XCOM 2 on minimum graphics and it's pretty sad.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:14
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E.J.Olmos posted:Looking to upgrade my MSI 560Ti. Would the MSI 970 be a decent choice for upgrade? Right now I'm playing XCOM 2 on minimum graphics and it's pretty sad. Not as knowledgeable about upgrades as many on here, but that should be an upgrade as long as you don't go over 1080p, if so, you should consider a 980ti. Also, keep in mind that XCOM2 has framerate problems and not great performance across the board right now.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:22
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E.J.Olmos posted:Looking to upgrade my MSI 560Ti. Would the MSI 970 be a decent choice for upgrade? Right now I'm playing XCOM 2 on minimum graphics and it's pretty sad. A 970 would be a huge upgrade over a 560ti
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Feb 10, 2016 19:34
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Don Lapre posted:A 970 would be a huge upgrade over a 560ti Yeah was surprised to realise how many years I'd had the thing. Allen_Aldo posted:Not as knowledgeable about upgrades as many on here, but that should be an upgrade as long as you don't go over 1080p, if so, you should consider a 980ti. Also, keep in mind that XCOM2 has framerate problems and not great performance across the board right now. My main monitor is a Dell U2410 running at 1920x1200 - should I be looking at the 980 for that? Looking a the price difference it is a bit more of a jump.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:38
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I wish I was more aware of the impact resolution has before I got this 1600p monitor. My 780 is really showing its age on Rainbow Six Siege and XCOM 2. The 980 Ti is starting to look real attractive, but the second I click "place order" Pascal will drop with a 3792% performance bump.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:43
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E.J.Olmos posted:Yeah was surprised to realise how many years I'd had the thing.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:47
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E.J.Olmos posted:Yeah was surprised to realise how many years I'd had the thing. I use a Dell U2415, it's the same resolution as your monitor and my 970 handles everything fine. Also the 980 is only like 15% faster on average than the 970.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:50
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Bishyaler posted:I wish I was more aware of the impact resolution has before I got this 1600p monitor. My 780 is really showing its age on Rainbow Six Siege and XCOM 2. The 980 Ti is starting to look real attractive, but the second I click "place order" Pascal will drop with a 3792% performance bump. Yeah its almost exactly like running two 1080p monitors, the 980ti would be my preferred card for that resolution (and even then it would slow down a bit in some scenarios). But you're right, we're getting awkwardly close to release dates.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:57
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Bishyaler posted:I wish I was more aware of the impact resolution has before I got this 1600p monitor. My 780 is really showing its age on Rainbow Six Siege and XCOM 2. The 980 Ti is starting to look real attractive, but the second I click "place order" Pascal will drop with a 3792% performance bump. My dual 980Tis struggle to hit 60fps in XCom without turning settings down from "high", at 1440p. Don't judge your card too harshly on that game, it's really just crappy optimization.
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Feb 10, 2016 20:29
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E.J.Olmos posted:Looking to upgrade my MSI 560Ti. Would the MSI 970 be a decent choice for upgrade? Right now I'm playing XCOM 2 on minimum graphics and it's pretty sad. I have a 560ti and my nephew who lives with me has a 970 at 1080p the 970 is about 3 times faster than the 560ti. That's with the 560ti on medium settings and the 970 on max BUT with anti aliasing on FXAA on bothcars because real anti aliasing murders frames in xcom2 specifically. Also keep in mind xcom2 is new and really needs a driver update and a few patches to iron out performance issues. But yeah its an old card now and totally worth upgrading.
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Feb 10, 2016 20:33
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Ok sounds like the 970 will do the job then.. unless the next generation are actually really near to being out? I see the 900 series was 2014 so over a year and a half old now.
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Feb 10, 2016 21:28
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Echoing the XCOM2 sentiments: with all settings maxed minus AA I'm only at ~60% average GPU load on a Fury X, but my FPS bottom out like crazy around level loading and scene transitions. By all appearances it's a CPU and drive hog that's optimized for poo poo. I imagine a 970 would run 1080p without a hitch once they de-beta the entire engine. e: No one has a real clue as to when the next gen is coming nor what it offers. The 970 is your best bet. ZobarStyl fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 22:44
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E.J.Olmos posted:Ok sounds like the 970 will do the job then.. unless the next generation are actually really near to being out? I see the 900 series was 2014 so over a year and a half old now. So I was in a similar boat as you with a 570, and what I did was buy a used 770 and sell my 570. I intend to ride that out until the 1070(or whatever) is available and then jump there. The alternative is the 970 (which would be a gigantic step up for you) and riding that out for longer. I think either path is pretty solid.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:10
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Will have a look at options and then decide. Thanks for the help folks!
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Feb 10, 2016 23:16
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Captain Hair posted:I have a 560ti and my nephew who lives with me has a 970 at 1080p the 970 is about 3 times faster than the 560ti. That's with the 560ti on medium settings and the 970 on max BUT with anti aliasing on FXAA on bothcars because real anti aliasing murders frames in xcom2 specifically. I'm thinking it'll need the sort of driver update that screams oh gently caress no and replaces half the render chain. Seriously, it's chugging harder than tomb raider a setting lower. Granted TR got a real nice update that makes my 290 look good but XCOM looks like something I'd run on my surface no problems. xthetenth fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 23:48
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ZobarStyl posted:Echoing the XCOM2 sentiments: with all settings maxed minus AA I'm only at ~60% average GPU load on a Fury X, but my FPS bottom out like crazy around level loading and scene transitions. By all appearances it's a CPU and drive hog that's optimized for poo poo. I imagine a 970 would run 1080p without a hitch once they de-beta the entire engine. It is a firaxis game, after all.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:48
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Just give it a year, it'll run well on an AM1 by then
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Feb 11, 2016 01:23
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:this just in 15 hours ago, the review we've all been waiting for Looks like they missed the most important metric that is the 'FPS per inch'. AMD totally wins that, hands down.
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Feb 11, 2016 04:22
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ZobarStyl posted:Echoing the XCOM2 sentiments: with all settings maxed minus AA I'm only at ~60% average GPU load on a Fury X, but my FPS bottom out like crazy around level loading and scene transitions. I believe the fix for this is hitting your caps lock right before it starts loading.
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Feb 11, 2016 08:51
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Rigged Death Trap posted:It is a firaxis game, after all. It's turn based, so the fact it doesn't run as well as it should doesn't affect enjoyment of the game, and it's brilliant game at that.
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Feb 11, 2016 09:25
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If you're trying to run XCOM2 right now, turn off any kind of MSAA/FXAA. Shier current implementation is dogshit and the game will run near 100% fluently on Ultra otherwise. Doing a 4590/290X @ 1440p with those settings and hitting above 60fps regularly. Also turn off vsync, which is also hot garbage.
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Feb 11, 2016 10:45
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FaustianQ posted:If you're trying to run XCOM2 right now, turn off any kind of MSAA/FXAA. Shier current implementation is dogshit and the game will run near 100% fluently on Ultra otherwise. Doing a 4590/290X @ 1440p with those settings and hitting above 60fps regularly. Also turn off vsync, which is also hot garbage.
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Feb 11, 2016 12:20
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HalloKitty posted:It's turn based, so the fact it doesn't run as well as it should doesn't affect enjoyment of the game, and it's brilliant game at that. Nah I just meant Firaxis like to tie a lot of performance into the CPU. In Civ 5 people got massive gains from a processor upgrade. Things like 10-25 fps better iirc.
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Feb 11, 2016 13:13
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Malloc Voidstar posted:Does DSR/whatever AMD calls it work for smoothing the picture out? Isn't it all just a fancy name for Supersampling AA?
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Feb 11, 2016 14:28
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HalloKitty posted:Isn't it all just a fancy name for Supersampling AA? I know some games weren't compatible with supersampling AA but AFAIK everything that can render at high rez works with DSR.
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Feb 11, 2016 14:52
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HalloKitty posted:Isn't it all just a fancy name for Supersampling AA? Hacky brute force SSAA that trades a lovely sampling pattern for compatibility. The game doesn't seem to like resolution as far as I can tell, I'm running medium at 3440x1440 and it's performing worse than Tomb Raider on high. I doubt it's my 4790k either, since dropping settings lets me hit higher frame rates easily.
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Feb 11, 2016 15:31
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HalloKitty posted:Isn't it all just a fancy name for Supersampling AA? yes Literally speaking it isn't, but practically it is. Same performance hit, same result. The advantage of DSR is how it handles different resolutions.
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Feb 11, 2016 16:08
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Unless you're running an Ultrawide monitor; then, uh, it doesn't. Not supported, it says. ;_; GeDoSaTo still works, though!  Cross-Section fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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Feb 11, 2016 18:11
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I posted here before about my 280X's temperature problems. After thoroughly cleaning and repasting the heatsink I saw a 10-15C drop in temperatures, but recently I've been seeing crashes while playing games. It turns out that under load, the card's temperature steadily rises until it hits 75C, at which point it immediately crashes the entire system. It's 100% reproducible, seems to happen sooner or later in every game, and only takes a minute to do in FurMark. Even at 100% fan speed. It's like the heatsink is literally incapable of dissipating heat fast enough. There's a couple of things that make this situation pretty weird. First, I got this card refurbished in July of 2014, and the heat problems didn't start until this past summer. Is it possible for the cooler to degrade over time? It's not even a stock blower or anything, it's an MSI GAMING 3G. Second, it's strange that the failure point is 75C. That's new, from within the last few days. Last summer the problem was that the card would hit 100C and then throttle to 500 MHz, and the repasting fixed that. I'm not sure what would cause this behavior, could the GPU itself be damaged? I'd be willing to try one of those Arctic aftermarket coolers, but their website doesn't seem to have a compatibility list for specific boards. Does anyone know if the GAMING 3G uses a different PCB than a stock 280X? I could also just buy a 970 but that's a last resort option right now, I'd rather keep a perfectly good card and wait for Pascal.
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If you're crashing at 75c, your card is not right, it should be able to run at much higher temps than that, plus it should throttle rather than crash. My HD7950 will run all day at 85-90c, and throttles at temps much above that. Do you have any warranty left? \/ good point \/ JnnyThndrs fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Feb 12, 2016 |
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