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Guys, I hate to say it but, I don't like the Grateful Dead anymore. I mean I love the actual "Grateful Dead", but this last "farewell" show and now touring with John Mayer has left a seriously bad taste in my mouth. I don't hate John Mayer, but he's the anti-Jerry, he plays hack blues licks, his playing has no sense of experimentation. This is just a lovely cash grab by old rich people who don't need it.
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Hollis Brownsound posted:Guys, I hate to say it but, I don't like the Grateful Dead anymore. wait, what is this? But yeah, those shows in july sucked. But I saw the other ones a few years ago and they kinda ruled, so who knows.
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Aug 20, 2015 01:17
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BigFactory posted:wait, what is this? http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/04/grateful-dead-planning-full-fledged-reunion-tour-with-john-mayer/ edit: maybe it all worth it for this though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqereOrTjrE Hollis Brownsound fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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Aug 20, 2015 01:26
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Oteil Burbridge is pretty good I guess. Think I'll pass on msg, though.
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Aug 20, 2015 03:18
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Hollis Brownsound posted:This is just a lovely cash grab by old rich people who don't need it. Well, I mean considering how atrocious they were at money management I wouldn't be so sure of that.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:00
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Hollis Brownsound posted:I mean I love the actual "Grateful Dead", but this last "farewell" show and now touring with John Mayer has left a seriously bad taste in my mouth. I respectfully disagree, I believe John Mayer is an accomplished guitarist who will be able to contribute to the Grateful Dead sound. Listen to this guitar solo in "Morning Dew" when John Mayer played with Phil Lesh earlier this year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJLHb8G9Hug John and Phil's version of "I Know You Rider" was pretty great as well. Here, John seems pretty humbled to be playing with Phil, thanking for fans accepting him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Rk0YBJ4fc I mean, sure, we could've had a better replacement for Trey (one guitarist that immediately comes to mind would be Warren Haynes), but this isn't a terrible choice. Of course, no one will be able to replace Jerry, but I'm still excited to see how Dead & Company sounds together. I'll be going to the show at the DCU Center in November.
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Aug 27, 2015 15:26
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They should just throw Steve Kimock up there so he can nod off on stage.
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Aug 27, 2015 15:42
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BigFactory posted:They should just throw Steve Kimock up there so he can nod off on stage. What, does he have the same issues that Jerry did? Man I don't know what to think of this. You do a final tour, then turn right around and start touring again. Oh, wait, I see now, it's not as The Grateful Dead, it's under a different banner. At least they could have waited longer before hitting the road again. Ah, what do I care, I didn't get to see them during their formative years, so it's not like it matters.
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Aug 27, 2015 22:45
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Planet X posted:Man I don't know what to think of this. You do a final tour, then turn right around and start touring again. Oh, wait, I see now, it's not as The Grateful Dead, it's under a different banner. At least they could have waited longer before hitting the road again. I see where you're coming from here, but did they ever explicitly say that the Santa Fe and Chicago shows were the last shows they'd ever do? How is this any different from the other Grateful Dead projects like Furthur? Maybe the final shows made them want to play together again
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Aug 28, 2015 01:41
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The Dead have been failing to live up to grandiose promises since 1965. It's what they do.
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Aug 28, 2015 22:15
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The July shows were fine. You don't go to a Dead show expecting them to perform well. You go to a Dead show hoping they pull off something special. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. It's the way they've always been.
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Oct 6, 2015 23:05
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I've been slacking, but an October '72 post is coming very soon.
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Oct 15, 2015 22:33
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Hollis Brownsound posted:Guys, I hate to say it but, I don't like the Grateful Dead anymore. This is true but you can't really complain when they added a free show at MSG. The whole thing is heavily endorsed by American Express though it's clearly been about the money. They probably already made so much off of ticket sales that they want to try to clear this whole image by throwing a free one in there. Probably costs them a small fraction of what they made.
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Oct 16, 2015 19:00
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facedesketernal posted:This is true but you can't really complain when they added a free show at MSG. The whole thing is heavily endorsed by American Express though it's clearly been about the money. They probably already made so much off of ticket sales that they want to try to clear this whole image by throwing a free one in there. Probably costs them a small fraction of what they made. Doesn't make the music any better. Getting rid of Phil is addition by subtraction though.
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Oct 16, 2015 19:49
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I was THIS close to seeing Mayer's Dead but with no Phil, I don't see the point.
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Oct 16, 2015 20:49
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Noise Machine posted:I was THIS close to seeing Mayer's Dead but with no Phil, I don't see the point. He was the worst part of the shows over the summer.
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Oct 16, 2015 21:01
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I think Phil would have been with them for it but he already has a bunch of shows scheduled at the Capitol Theatre in Port Chester.
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Oct 17, 2015 01:44
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facedesketernal posted:I think Phil would have been with them for it but he already has a bunch of shows scheduled at the Capitol Theatre in Port Chester. Also he has cancer.
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Oct 17, 2015 15:46
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Happy Hippo posted:Also he has cancer. What's the cancer equivalent of getting a liver donated to you and then pounding heinekens on stage every night?
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Oct 17, 2015 17:19
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Here is a pretty good tape of the first Dead & Co. show: https://archive.org/details/GD2015-10-29 Mayer's playing is pretty good but I would legitimately prefer to listen to Phil sing and that is not meant as a compliment to Phil
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Oct 30, 2015 20:33
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kindof a boring setlist. 1st set is ok but I can only imagine how slowed down half of those tunes are.
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Oct 30, 2015 20:42
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 1972: a very good year. Previously in this thread, I've examined the Dead's shows in April/May, June/July, August, and September. Now, let's have a look at October. Fall 1972 was when the Dead really started to mix up their big jams, experimenting with all kinds of different combinations and transitions. In October, they liked to start jams with Truckin' before branching off in all sorts of directions: 10/02: Truckin'-> jam-> drums-> jam-> Morning Dew 10/19: Truckin'-> drums-> The Other One-> He's Gone-> The Other One 10/26: Truckin'-> Dark Star-> Sugar Magnolia 10/27: Truckin'-> The Other One-> Mississippi Half-Step-> Morning Dew Those combos all look tasty, but as with any Dead month, there are a few excellent shows from October 1972 that stand above the rest, featuring the best sound, performance, and vibes. They are, in chronological order: October 2, 1972 - Springfield, MA This show has one of my favorite versions of Bird Song, really good renditions of Cumberland Blues and Uncle John's Band, and the aforementioned Truckin'-> Morning Dew jam. This sequence isn't the "best" improvisation from this period, but is very interesting in its own right, since it showcases the development of some ideas that would later find homes in the 1973-74 period. October 18, 1972 - St. Louis, MO This is definitely the best show from October. The sound comes together after about 5-6 songs, and the whole second set is an outstanding performance, culminating in the first Playing sandwich: Playing In The Band-> drums-> Dark Star-> Morning Dew-> Playing In The Band October 28, 1972 - Cleveland, OH Just a very well played show overall, with nice versions of classics like China->Rider and He's Gone, and a pretty good Dark Star-> Sugar Magnolia. There are also notable versions of Playing In The Band on October 17 and October 26. Sadly, the Truckin' from the 27th has a cut about 3 minutes in, and there's another extremely unfortunate cut in the Sugar Mag coming out of Dark Star on the 28th. Even more unfortunate is the lack of good soundboard sources for the 21st, 23rd, 24th and 30th, especially the 24th and 30th, which seem to have excellent performances, but only exist as poor audience recordings.
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Juaguocio posted:
i just want to say i enjoy your effort posts. I have been on a download kick lately and will be listening to 10/2/72 tonight. Have you done a '74 overview? My favorite era is Europe '72 but I'll take any '72 '73' 74. This is not a high traffic thread, but I always watch for your posts.
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Fall 73: They're all good get them all. I haven't listened to much '74, I have those 3 warm up shows they did which are cool, it's always interesting to hear them work through new songs. And there's the 1 hour playing in the band as well.
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LordPants posted:Fall 73: They're all good get them all. Seattle? HUB Auditorium? edit HEC Edmunson 5/21/74 or was it one of those Feb shows with a 1 hour Playin? Septic Knothead fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Nov 20, 2015 |
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Septic Knothead posted:Seattle? HUB Auditorium? edit HEC Edmunson 5/21/74 or was it one of those Feb shows with a 1 hour Playin? Yeah you're right, Seattle, and it's a 45 minute playing in the band, for some reason I thought it was an hour.  edit to add confusion my post was poorly structured and suggested that it was in one of the warm up shows. Ughhh this is what happens when I post before coffee.
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LordPants posted:Yeah you're right, Seattle, and it's a 45 minute playing in the band, for some reason I thought it was an hour. yeah I have the Seattle show in my files somewhere, that Playin' is epic. I was thinking (hoping) there was another 1 hour Playin' I didn't know about
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Septic Knothead posted:yeah I have the Seattle show in my files somewhere, that Playin' is epic. I was thinking (hoping) there was another 1 hour Playin' I didn't know about Sorry  As this is a slow thread, can I post about the unloved 80s or is that going to horn in on your gig? I assume you're going to jet through the meaty 70s 
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Septic Knothead posted:i just want to say i enjoy your effort posts. I have been on a download kick lately and will be listening to 10/2/72 tonight. Have you done a '74 overview? My favorite era is Europe '72 but I'll take any '72 '73' 74. This is not a high traffic thread, but I always watch for your posts. Thanks, I'm glad someone reads them. 72-74 is my favorite Dead era as well, and I hope to eventually listen to every show from this period. I'll definitely do a '74 post if I make it that far. Up next, I'll either do November '72, or jump back in time and cover January-March. I have a hankering for some Pigpen, so the latter option will probably win out. LordPants posted:Sorry  I'm not going to do 1976-79, so feel free to post about those years too. Juaguocio fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Nov 20, 2015 |
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I was reading the Rolling Stone article about Pigpen's death and in it they talked about a tape they found at his apartment, featuring a bunch of songs he recorded solo before his death. Does anyone know if this tape ever became available to the public and if so where I could listen to it?
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Kvlt! posted:I was reading the Rolling Stone article about Pigpen's death and in it they talked about a tape they found at his apartment, featuring a bunch of songs he recorded solo before his death. Does anyone know if this tape ever became available to the public and if so where I could listen to it? It's a super common bootleg and not that good.
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BigFactory posted:It's a super common bootleg and not that good. You're right, I probably should have looked a bit harder because I found it.
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Dead & Company will be embarking on another tour this Summer! I'm not sure if anyone here managed to catch one of the shows last Fall, but I can confirm that this is an awesome group, having seen them at the DCU Center in Worcester. The second set was insane, starting off with Deal > Uncle John's Band > Estimated Prophet > Terrapin Station. John Mayer fits in well with the group, and only sings vocals on a few tunes. Here's the tour dates: Fri Jun 10 - Charlotte, NC PNC Music Pavilion Thu Jun 16 - Cincinnati, OH Riverbend Music Center Fri Jun 17 - Noblesville, IN Klipsch Music Center Mon Jun 20 - Camden, NJ BB&T Pavilion Tue Jun 21 - Saratoga Springs, NY Saratoga Performing Arts Center Thu Jun 23 - Bristow, VA Jiffy Lube Live Sat Jun 25 - Flushing, NY Citi Field Sun Jun 26 - Flushing, NY Citi Field Tue Jun 28 - Hartford, CT Xfinity Theatre Sat Jul 02 - Boulder, CO Folsom Field Sun Jul 03 - Boulder, CO Folsom Field Thu Jul 07 - Detroit, MI DTE Energy Music Theatre Sat Jul 09 - East Troy, WI Alpine Valley Music Theatre Sun Jul 10 - East Troy, WI Alpine Valley Music Theatre Wed Jul 13 - Pittsburgh, PA First Niagara Pavilion Fri Jul 15 - Boston, MA Fenway Park Sat Jul 16 - Boston, MA Fenway Park URL - http://www.deadandcompany.com/ I'll probably go to the Friday, July 15th show at Fenway or the June 28th show in CT. Can't wait!
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The National's 3 CD Grateful Dead tribute compilation album has been fully anounced now with tracklist, warning it's rpetty heavy on hip indie bands and even a pitchfork reading jerk like myself doesn't recognise all the namesquote:Day of the Dead:
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I recognize like 5 of those artists, but Bela Fleck doing "Help On The Way" sounds pretty cool. That reminds me- I was listening to Burning Spear's album Jah Kingdom, and while it's mostly bad early 90s reggae, there's an interesting cover of "Estimated Prophet": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOixoqg-1ZI
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Tim Hecker doing a Plunderphonics cover/tribute, nice.
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https://archive.org/stream/TheGratefulDeadFBI/The%20Grateful%20Dead%2001 Have a read of the Grateful Dead's FBI file. It's 90% redacted, and is just a collection of every time they are mentioned, mostly in request for help from the DEA with LSD cases and such and so forth. algebra testes fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Mar 28, 2016 |
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LordPants posted:https://archive.org/stream/TheGratefulDeadFBI/The%20Grateful%20Dead%2001 This is great stuff. I just watched an excellent Independent Lens documentary on the Black Panthers, so I'm intrigued to see their name in connection with the Dead. "It would appear that this is a rock group of some sort." I'll make a March 1972 post soon. We've been blessed with Charlie Miller SBD sources for all the missing dates of the Academy Of Music run, so there are a ton of great tunes to choose from.
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Juaguocio posted:This is great stuff. I just watched an excellent Independent Lens documentary on the Black Panthers, so I'm intrigued to see their name in connection with the Dead. I have or had (don't know where it is) that Dicks Pick from that run and it was gorgeous.
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LordPants posted:The National's 3 CD Grateful Dead tribute compilation album has been fully anounced now with tracklist, warning it's rpetty heavy on hip indie bands and even a pitchfork reading jerk like myself doesn't recognize all the names Here's the first few of the tracks that have been released from this project: The National - Morning Dew: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLVLCXgTx3o The War on Drugs - Touch of Grey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72OLupNWNho Courtney Barnett - New Speedway Boogie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdaAQlmExmI Phosphorescent, Jenny Lewis & Friends - Sugaree: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhver8g_KZc Bruce Hornsby and DeYarmond Edison - Black Muddy River: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM-shsMngdw Out the few released so far, I'm really liking The National's take on "Morning Dew". The War on Drugs cover of "Touch of Grey" sounds like Bob Dylan covering the Dead, but the chorus feels pretty off - it's pretty heavy on the synthesizers as well. The others are pretty good, but nothing truly "remarkable" yet.
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