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counterfeitsaint posted:Does anyone know of a time ever in the history of television when this stupid bullshit has worked, and network meddling in broadcast order has improved or saved a show? Like even once? Not Fox, but Happy Endings had a bunch of later-season episodes frontloaded after the pilot. The feeling was that they were funnier and a better representative of what the show could be (which was correct). It led to some weird plot stuff later, but that's less of an issue with a sitcom I suppose. Show made it 3 seasons.
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That must be it then. I guess I don't watch too many fox shows these days. Tend to stick to cable TV and a few network shows on cbs and nbc.
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# ? Feb 14, 2016 07:09 |
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I don't know if this comes across to American audiences but Lucifer comes off as incredibly camp to me as a Brit. It seems weird he is going after all these women when he's being played as a stereotypically gay character. It was kinda touched on with the shot of a man in Lucifers bed after a 3-some but I think it would have been cooler if he picked up men and women in equal amounts. He is the devil after all, his preference for debauchery shouldn't be constricted by sexuality.
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# ? Feb 14, 2016 14:04 |
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Go back to posting about Sumo wrestling dude.
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# ? Feb 14, 2016 14:23 |
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Flayer posted:. It was kinda touched on with the shot of a man in Lucifers bed after a 3-some He made the Eiffel tower reference which gives the character an out. But yeah, the way he speaks comes off as stereotypically British gay man.
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# ? Feb 14, 2016 19:45 |
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A funny thing about the comic and him having sex is that they show he doesn't actually have a dick.
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# ? Feb 14, 2016 23:46 |
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muscles like this? posted:A funny thing about the comic and him having sex is that they show he doesn't actually have a dick.
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# ? Feb 14, 2016 23:52 |
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Flayer posted:I don't know if this comes across to American audiences but Lucifer comes off as incredibly camp to me as a Brit. It seems weird he is going after all these women when he's being played as a stereotypically gay character. It was kinda touched on with the shot of a man in Lucifers bed after a 3-some but I think it would have been cooler if he picked up men and women in equal amounts. He is the devil after all, his preference for debauchery shouldn't be constricted by sexuality. America isn't too into being equal gay and equal straight in the same go. America can't handle bisexuals. You're either one way or the other. The shot of him in bed with another dude and girl was just a play on Devils threesome. And the fact the devil probably would like all forms and genders of sex. But I highly doubt we see him picking up on guys because then it would become a drama about a gay guy to America's perception.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 11:31 |
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Somehow he managed to do it with Mazikeen, and Spera is surprised and/or amazed at learning said thing.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 14:48 |
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This show is wonderful. "Somebody flip the omlette if it's not already ruined"
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 03:07 |
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Oh my god this entire PUA seminar is amazing.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 03:19 |
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Make a new club set? Hell no, have the party at Lux.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 03:24 |
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Who else is expecting the kidnapped girl to be in on it and its a scam? Edit: Yep, she's in on it. Wasn't expecting the brother to be the kidnapper, but hey. Zebulon fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Feb 16, 2016 |
# ? Feb 16, 2016 03:47 |
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I can't say I was expecting it, but I'm not surprised. That twist is way too common. On the other hand, I'm definitely interested in what Decker's going to do now that she's seen him doing his crazy devilface thing. Edit: Oh, shoot him, and then nothing. gasp Echophonic fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Feb 16, 2016 |
# ? Feb 16, 2016 03:53 |
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I kind of get the impression that he managed to get shot and injured purely because it was her trying to hurt him and he's still otherwise invincible/immortal. Seems to go along with the fact she's immune to his devilish charms and all that. That or its exposure to her directly that is causing him to become more vulnerable.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 04:20 |
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Kin posted:This show is formulaic crime solving garbage for idiots except it's already jumped the shark by making the lead the loving devil. Yeah, this is absolute garbage. Which is a shame, because the male lead is great and the little girl is a neat character. GEE I WONDER IF THE SEXXXXXY LADYCOP WILL FALL IN LOVE WITH LUCIFER
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 05:29 |
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This show is pretty entertaining.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 05:35 |
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Loved how Satan crashed that D.E.N.N.I.S. System self-help speech.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 06:13 |
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Holy poo poo the angel demon fight was cheezy as gently caress
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 06:19 |
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Are they actually playing PUAs for laughs? This is amazing
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 06:20 |
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This show badly needs a metaplot, and fast.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 06:23 |
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That was reasonably entertaining. The show doesn't stand out, but it's enough to make me want to keep watching. The PUA thing was amazing. I can see how the police procedural with a twist type of show would get tired really, really fast, and under no circumstances could I ever stand to watch more than one a week, but so far one a week has been okay. I wouldn't mind if they got away from the bog standard formula though.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 06:40 |
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I'm digging the show. Loved the knives in the angel fight. The PUA thing was hilarious though, as was the blown cover. I was incredibly surprised they showed the wing scars as bluntly as they did though. I remember seeing them an episode or two ago but I thought it would stay a background thing. His reaction to saying "Please" for what is probably the first time in his life was amazing. Dude's got some acting chops. My guess for the twist bit will be that the lead cop will be the only person that can hurt him. It'd be a neat plotline to have him become human though. I can only imagine the sheer amount of trouble a Lucifer who can get drunk/high would get into.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 08:16 |
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:My guess for the twist bit will be that the lead cop will be the only person that can hurt him. It'd be a neat plotline to have him become human though. I can only imagine the sheer amount of trouble a Lucifer who can get drunk/high would get into. I thought they basically gave away what the twist will be this episode. "No *~*HUMAN*~* can resist my charms."
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 08:20 |
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They didn't spend that much time on the procedural part in this episode imo. It wasn't the focus, but rather mainly a backdrop for Lucifer and Decker. Compare it to something like Castle, where the mystery is the emphasis. I feel like it's moving away from procedural at a sort of similar clip as Justified. I thought this episode was pretty well written, though the fight scene was pretty bad and would have been much better used to reveal the Mazikeen from the comic. The letting Decker see more so she just starts to believe a little bit but then is able to injure him so she doesn't anymore is a smart move that could potentially set up some interesting directions to go in. I liked that Lucifer is simultaneously completely charming yet a babe in the woods now that he's been rejected. Also, loved that this of all shows made fun of PUA and as always there are some excellent lines: "I can arrange that, actually." P.S. Metro is a thing you goony fucks.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 08:27 |
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Negging on PUA groups is trending. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuNULdtlhQw Flayer posted:I don't know if this comes across to American audiences but Lucifer comes off as incredibly camp to me as a Brit. quote:...Why British Men 'Seem Gay'
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 12:09 |
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Chasiubao posted:Are they actually playing PUAs for laughs? This is amazing They seemed to be giving them way too much credit to me. In fact, this episode seemed pretty weak overall, compared with the previous ones.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 16:33 |
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Did figured the girl was behind it all but not why and that her brother was in on it. The wing scars were a nice touch. I'm going to guess that Maze(?) is going to ask Lucifer to prove he still has it which I'm thinking she turns on him if doesn't.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 16:40 |
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Maybe it's because I have such a high opinion of PUA's like everyone else, but I just assumed the PUA guru dude was in on it somehow.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 16:44 |
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Production order is not going to be kind to this show. This was the 3rd episode and now Chloe firmly believes that Lucifer is just a normal guy and this is after people have seen the "Shoves guy 30 feet through glass" episode so anyone wanting to stick around for the meta-plot is going to quit and wait for the entire series to finish.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 17:57 |
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pentyne posted:Production order is not going to be kind to this show. This was the 3rd episode and now Chloe firmly believes that Lucifer is just a normal guy and this is after people have seen the "Shoves guy 30 feet through glass" episode so anyone wanting to stick around for the meta-plot is going to quit and wait for the entire series to finish. In this episode she just saw him turn all demon-face and still reject it. That's kind of her thing, and short of that Angel literally showing up and battling Lucifer that's probably what she's going to continue doing.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 18:21 |
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I don't really mind the is-he-isn't-he thing being dragged out. It doesn't feel like a particularly pressing issue or a sub-plot that desperately needs to develop. I mean, what would it change? Say you find out the nice bloke over at the grocery store is actually Zeus. You don't want to be a dick though so it's not like you'll tell everyone, and who would believe you anyway. If the devil is actually a pretty decent fellow running a nightclub, the world could be off worse. Perhaps she'd ask him to use his powers for an investigation every once in a while, have a few more conversations like the hypothetical one in the last episode, but that seems about it. It definitely could do with some more meta-plot though, like is he turning human, or back to full angel? Are there any repercussions to the devil not being in hell, or not behaving appropriately devilish? It looks like she'll turn into his 'weak spot' that the angel might use for leverage, but that doesn't seem like the most interesting plot either. I'm mostly just watching it for the comedy so far.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 19:35 |
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This show is camp. I'm enjoying it, but It's not my favorite police case of the week show (that's limitless ATM) That said, I'll keep watching cause the guy who plays Lucifer is fascinating.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 21:44 |
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On a scale between Probably and No, what's the likelihood of them bringing the Basanos from the comic in for an episode? And would it be cool or forgettable?
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 21:48 |
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Fleve posted:I mean, what would it change? Say you find out the nice bloke over at the grocery store is actually Zeus. Well, for one thing I'd keep women, children, and pets away from him. After this week's episode I don't think I can go on with the show. Everything besides Tom Ellis is just so terrible, lazy, and boring. It feels like everyone involved gave up after settling on a concept. But just to add to the debate, I initially thought that Lucifer was set in a world where people weren't generally aware of the devil even as a legendary figure. If someone came up to me and said, "Hi, I'm Lucifer Morningstar," my first reaction would be, "Why did you pick a terrible name for yourself? Also, that fedora looks terrible." Nobody on the show seemed to notice how tacky the idea of someone calling himself "Lucifer" was. But apparently people are well aware of the connection...
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 21:50 |
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Random Stranger posted:
People don't normally pick out their names. Even so, the first episode had her ask him if that was a stage name.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 21:55 |
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imperialparadox posted:The guy playing Lucifer is pretty damned charismatic - he's actually likeable - though I do hope that they show him trying to do more hosed up things like setting up the duel at the end of the last episode, because he is the Devil after all. I thought it was a great touch that the hench-succubus set things up so that while both guys would get punished, because they both deserved it, the one who actually killed people was the only one who was going to actually die, because his sins were worse.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 22:59 |
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computer parts posted:People don't normally pick out their names. Anyone calling themselves "Lucifer Morningstar" in the real world has.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 23:12 |
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Random Stranger posted:Anyone calling themselves "Lucifer Morningstar" in the real world has. Those are the kind of parents that conceive their child while listening to Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath in one of their parents' station wagon.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 23:28 |
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Random Stranger posted:Anyone calling themselves "Lucifer Morningstar" in the real world has. Or your the child of a celebrity. They love to name their kids stupid poo poo like Jason Lee naming his kid Pilot Inspektor. Lucifers quips are the best and I don't think I'll ever tire of them. This is an entertaining show that I have never enjoyably laughed so much at a drama. Any goon looking for some breaking bad type drama should probably leave now.
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