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On stupid connectors, did anyone here actually find a use for the stupid 4pin Firewire connector on the front of the first gen PS2s? On the other hand the best connector on that was buying the network adaptor to plug in an IDE HDD!
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KozmoNaut posted:SCART had a couble of benefits. It had bidirectional composite video and stereo sound, which was handy for VCRs, it could carry RGB video, which was even better than S-Video, it could be daisy-chained to connect multiple devices, and it had control pins for automatically switching your TV to the right input when you turned on your VCR/DVD. Wow these features sound amazing! I had a TV with SCART connectors once, and no other devices with SCART. The TV actually came with a SCART to S-video adapter so yeah I got all the benefits of S-video without the ability to plug it in very easily. Are the French to blame for this poo poo? Fake edit: lol checked Wikipedia and they are.
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The best thing about SCART was when I was like 12 and we used the cables as ninja weapons and got severely hurt
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I guess you guys had cheap-rear end poo poo television sets with cheap-rear end poo poo connectors because this SCARTs falling out all over the shop oh my god it's like SCARTmageddon thing sounds completely foreign to me 
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Inco posted:You can run Doom on a printer: I'm unreasonably upset that this wasn't the printer printing off a frame at a time.
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Ape Has Killed Ape posted:I'm unreasonably upset that this wasn't the printer printing off a frame at a time. If you play Doom on a paper terminal, you set it in terse mode. e: Obsolete but not failed per se: verbose and terse modes in text adventure games, the latter meant for users that are either on slow-rear end lines, using a paper terminal, or using a paper terminal on a slow-rear end line.
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Jerry Cotton posted:I guess you guys had cheap-rear end poo poo television sets with cheap-rear end poo poo connectors because this SCARTs falling out all over the shop oh my god it's like SCARTmageddon thing sounds completely foreign to me Yeah seriously. I mean yeah they were impossible to plug in blind and sometimes just broke but falling out of the TV? I always felt like they were holding way to tight to the point of me being afraid that I'd damage the TV when I pulled it out.
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In light of the video cable discussion, has the Wii mini been mentioned here yet? A console released in 2013 with ONLY coax video out. No hdmi, no s-video and no component. It was aimed at kids, but still....
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Humbug posted:In light of the video cable discussion, has the Wii mini been mentioned here yet? A console released in 2013 with ONLY coax video out. No hdmi, no s-video and no component. It was aimed at kids, but still.... I just got a complete in box 1st-gen white Wii with the gamecube ports for $25 at the salvation army, modded it and resold it for $90. I can see the 1st-gens getting rarer and gaining value eventually because of the softmod abilities. The Wii mini has absolutely no redeeming features.
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Feb 17, 2016 12:18
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evobatman posted:I just got a complete in box 1st-gen white Wii with the gamecube ports for $25 at the salvation army, modded it and resold it for $90. I can see the 1st-gens getting rarer and gaining value eventually because of the softmod abilities. The Wii mini has absolutely no redeeming features. How does a system that sold billiards of units ever get rare?
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Humbug posted:In light of the video cable discussion, has the Wii mini been mentioned here yet? A console released in 2013 with ONLY coax video out. No hdmi, no s-video and no component. It was aimed at kids, but still.... It also didn't have wifi 
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Feb 17, 2016 13:00
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Jerry Cotton posted:How does a system that sold billiards of units ever get rare? Most likely because they are considered worthless by many and then they throw them out.
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Feb 17, 2016 13:11
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No-one ever throws anything out except the handful of "IF YOU HAVE POSSESSIONS YOU ARE A PIECE OF poo poo LOL ALL I HAVE IN MY 300 SQUARE METER APARTMENT IS A MACBOOK AIR AND A BICYCLE" goons and/or hipsters. Atari 2600s were literally garbage and they're still everywhere.
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Boiled Water posted:It also didn't have wifi Not only did it not have wifi, but it was impossible to connect it to the internet. No wifi adapters or Lan ports. Pretty much everyones reaction was "just buy a used wii". I dont think it lasted very long in western markets at least.
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Man, you'd think Nintendo would learn after they tried the same poo poo with the GB Micro.
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The only thing the Wii mini was any good for was getting free Club Nintendo coins when they were winding down that service. All the Wii mini codes had a very simple serial number and no authorisation key, so you could just plug numbers into the website and get free games.
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Feb 17, 2016 14:21
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AlphaKretin posted:Man, you'd think Nintendo would learn after they tried the same poo poo with the GB Micro. Except that the GB Micro is awesome.
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evobatman posted:Except that the GB Micro is awesome. It may well have been, all I've heard is that it has iffy buttons, poo poo for features and it sold poorly. 
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I saw Wii minis around at my local stores until quite recently. They may still have some in stock, actually. Tells you enough about how successful the thing was.
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Feb 17, 2016 14:33
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Humphreys posted:On stupid connectors, did anyone here actually find a use for the stupid 4pin Firewire connector on the front of the first gen PS2s? I believe you could use it to link together PS2s to play Gran Turismo multiplayer.
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Lowen SoDium posted:I believe you could use it to link together PS2s to play Gran Turismo multiplayer. Armored Core 2 and 3 were iLink compatible, Timesplitters 2 was, and I think Tony Hawk 3 used it. I'm not sure how many other titles did, but I don't think the list is very long. It was so worth hauling an extra TV and PS2 over to a buddy's house to play Armored Core together without having to use the splitscreen multiplayer 
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evobatman posted:Except that the GB Micro is awesome. I loved my GBA-SP until the shoulder buttons got flaky. Not the best portable device I've owned, but the best up to that point, for sure- made a decent eBook reader (in 2005 terms) if you had a flash cart. 2000s in general seemed to have a lot of portables that made people complain about being too small for their hands, original XBox controller notwithstanding. I loved it, though, I'm a real short dude and things like the SP and the Micro and my tiny 80x400x600mm phone fit perfectly. Did anyone else have one of those ultra-slim Sony-Ericsson Walkman phones? Aside from the proprietary power/headphone adapter, it may have been my favorite dumbphone. Would spend dollars on a Bluetooth device about the same size I could take and make calls and not much else from.
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Christmas Present posted:tiny 80x400x600mm phone fit perfectly. That's a big loving phone. I think you missed a decimal point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27aVPqpnL7Y
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I've been really tempted to rebuy a https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_SCH-U470 that I had years ago and just completely ditch smartphones altogether, but the problem is that the GSM version was apparently rare and never shows up for what I'd consider to be a sane dumbphone price
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DocCynical posted:That's a big loving phone. I think you missed a decimal point. Oh hahahaha duhhhhh yup Was thinking in cm, and converted totally wrong- I just have less of an idea what 8mm is in my native inches- always been better at estimating sizes smaller than half a foot in metric. Leaving it unedited as a monument to American education
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Veotax posted:I remember back when I worked at HMV, we got in this Beatles collector's edition USB thing. Yea, I remember having 4 of those in store and we had to figure out how to display them but also keep them safe. They wouldn't fit in any of the security cases that we had. Eventually I just took a picture of it, went home made a cd cover with it and we put that out. Though we were told later, no we had to have the actual product out, it was part of the marketing deal or something. I'm actually surprised this kind of thing wasn't more common. You could fit entire discographies easily on a custom USB key, and it would be a good collectors items for big fans. Though I guess the kind of person who wants to own the entire collection of an artist would rather have physical copies of each rather than it all digitally.
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Humbug posted:In light of the video cable discussion, has the Wii mini been mentioned here yet? A console released in 2013 with ONLY coax video out. No hdmi, no s-video and no component. It was aimed at kids, but still.... Also, no matter how unpopular it is, something I've said in another thread, in a few years when you can't find a Wii Mini anywhere, you're going to have this very, super nostalgic retro gamer community treating it like some sacred gaming device. The last true at-home gaming console. The console that didn't have wifi, or streaming movies, or apps or DVD playback. A game system that demanded you sit next to your friends to play a game as opposed to sitting across town. A game system where nothing was a downloadable. I bet there will be even arguments that the aesthetics of the device will be a point of compliment as it harkens back to the older 80s/90s gaming era with its out of time looks.
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Wow I didn't even know the Wii Mini existed. Same with that top loader NES, or the weird second model Super NES. Never saw any of them for sale anywhere.
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I never saw any console variations pre-32-bit. As far as I knew, the front-loader NES, the original SNES, and 2nd Genesis (and the second Sega CD and the 32x) models were all that existed post-crash.
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Jerry Cotton posted:No-one ever throws anything out except the handful of "IF YOU HAVE POSSESSIONS YOU ARE A PIECE OF poo poo LOL ALL I HAVE IN MY 300 SQUARE METER APARTMENT IS A MACBOOK AIR AND A BICYCLE" goons and/or hipsters. Atari 2600s were literally garbage and they're still everywhere. What? that's how this happens, for a variety of reasons there will be less and less Wiis in working order and available. Worth is one of the reasons.
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I think the N64 and GameCube were the only Nintendo consoles not to get a major redesign during their lifetime to shrink it down. Granted there were redesigns made but they were mostly internal changes and didn't have an entirely new case. Edit: also I'm pretty sure that the Wii Mini can't play GameCube games
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Not even all Wiis can play Gamecube games. It was a feature they eventually removed.
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I remember when the Wii first came out it only supported WEP encryption, I could be wrong and it was buried in a sub menu (and I didn't own one at the time), but I distinctly recall stories from friends who changed their home router to WEP so the kids could go online with the Wii, then some punkass would crack the WEP and run up their download limits.
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Humphreys posted:download limits. Well this is the obsolete and failed tech thread
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Christmas Present posted:Oh hahahaha duhhhhh yup
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Humphreys posted:I remember when the Wii first came out it only supported WEP encryption, I could be wrong and it was buried in a sub menu (and I didn't own one at the time), but I distinctly recall stories from friends who changed their home router to WEP so the kids could go online with the Wii, then some punkass would crack the WEP and run up their download limits. This is correct, the DS did it too. For added fun my router didn't allow changes to WEP for said security reasons so those systems effectively didn't have WiFi. Jerry Cotton posted:Well this is the obsolete and failed tech thread Aha. Ahaha. Ahahahahaha.  
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Humphreys posted:I remember when the Wii first came out it only supported WEP encryption, I could be wrong and it was buried in a sub menu (and I didn't own one at the time), but I distinctly recall stories from friends who changed their home router to WEP so the kids could go online with the Wii, then some punkass would crack the WEP and run up their download limits. The ds had this problem until the DSi, I know that for a fact. My Wii had WPA and I had a launch console.
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I've got a DSi and I didn't even know I could connect it to a network
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Humphreys posted:I remember when the Wii first came out it only supported WEP encryption, I could be wrong and it was buried in a sub menu (and I didn't own one at the time), but I distinctly recall stories from friends who changed their home router to WEP so the kids could go online with the Wii, then some punkass would crack the WEP and run up their download limits. Happened to me. Neighbour got my net shut down with a finger wagging warning from EA and my isp, apparently they tried to torrent the sims 2 or 3 and every single dlc. So I spammed them with cmd console messages just like I was in the computer lab in middle school again before cutting them off.
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Arrath posted:So I spammed them with cmd console messages just like I was in the computer lab in middle school again I miss Netsend
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