[MAFIA] XCOM: A Nailbiter Setup

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Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

"In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies."
Welcome to XCOM Mafia! This is a game for 16 players following The Nailbiter setup.

Rules:

Standard Mafia rules apply. Standard Mafia Rules
Flavor exists in this game. Tread carefully.
DON'T LURK! Days will be ~24-36 hours (or more, depending on weekends) and Nights will be ~12-24 hours. I reserve the right to modkill lurkers, but I will warn you first. You get one warning.
With the above statement, I want to make it clear that lurking is sometimes a viable strategy for scum. You will probably only get warned if you are literally Not Posting (tm), but please participate regardless

Setup: The Nailbiter
(all credit to Lumpen)

Town Cop (sane, TOWN or NOT TOWN results)
Town Doctor (can't self-protect, can't protect the same target on consecutive nights)
Town Tracker (can't track the same person on consecutive nights)
Town Jailer (can't self-jail, can't jail the same person on consecutive nights)
Town Bulletproof Miller (1-shot, notified when expended, does not protect from Poison, investigates as NOT TOWN)
6 Town Versatile Backup (when a Town Doc, Cop, Tracker, or Jailer dies in the night, a random living Backup inherits the role. Lynched roles are lost forever. Each Role can only be inherited once.)
Unstoppable Serial Killer (cannot be blocked or jailed, and can kill a jailed or doc-protected target)
Scum Bulletproof Godfather (permanent BP and investigates as LOYAL, if making the Scum kill, loses BOTH powers for that night)
Scum Roleblocker (makes a targeted power fail, can either kill or roleblock, not both)
Scum Ninja (can't be tracked)
Scum Poisoner (if making the Scum kill, the target will die after a 1-Day delay. Bypasses Doc Protection on targeting night, but can be stopped by Doc protection on the death night. A poisoned victim can also die in Jail.)

The order above is also the order abilities are resolved in. For instance, if the doctor targets the same person as the SK, the doc will get a "success" result but the target will still die, indicating an SK kill.
No role can self-target or target the same person on consecutive nights, unless an attempt fails.
Scum have a single nightkill.
All kills and skills may be withheld.
Results are given as "your action succeeded" or "your action failed" for most actions. The Tracker gets "<player> appeared to visit <player>", and the Cop gets "<player> appears to be LOYAL/NOT LOYAL."

All Role PMs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yw4fH7E-wEPhjzJ7T3z4m6cTBT6G8qjDduwHTRv71Xs/edit?usp=sharing

Versatile Backup Role PM:

quote:

Advent has always cared for you and provided for you and your family. What makes these XCOM terrorists think they have the right to tear down what has been so good for humanity?

You are a Loyal Advent Citizen. Whenever a town cop, doctor, tracker, or jailer is killed during the night, you may be selected to volunteer for Advent's genetic engineering project and take their place. You will be notified when this happens.

Player List

~~Aafter~~ XCOM Sharpshooter
~~Amoeba102~~ XCOM Specialist
~~Birdstrike~~ Advent-aligned Conspiracy Theorist
blackcross
chaoslord
~~GulagDolls~~ Advent-aligned Faceless One
JakeP
~~Jon Irenicus~~ Advent-aligned Shield Bearer
~~Kashuno~~ Advent-aligned Backup
Khris Kruel
~~King Burgundy~~ Advent-aligned Backup
kordansk
~~Lumpen~~ Advent-aligned Ethereal
Tommunist
~~Tremendous Taste~~ Advent-aligned Ethereal
Tricky

If you haven't played XCOM 2 yet you should go play XCOM 2 you big dummies. I am still working on the role PMs, but this will be a game of XCOM guerrilla agents (scum team) against those Loyal to the Advent (town).

Truth Quark fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Mar 17, 2016

# ? Feb 16, 2016 20:42

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 18:19

Podima: Nov 4, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

Protip, flavor does not play well with Nailbiter, as I found out. Either don't bother with it or include it in the open setup, or be aware that that will 100% remove the ability to fakeclaim unless you provide fakeclaims to scum for each of the power roles.

Not a signup post yet, I need to limit how many games I'm in concurrently. We'll see how long this takes to fill.

# ? Feb 16, 2016 21:05

Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

I am going to make it public, flavor is half the fun.

# ? Feb 16, 2016 21:09

Kashuno: Oct 9, 2012; Where the hell is my SWORD?; Grimey Drawer

I play all xcom mafias but will miss this one sadly

# ? Feb 16, 2016 21:18

Khris Kruel: Nov 5, 2003; Ask me about being a SJW in EE and working to make anyone who disagrees with me a villain and gets no opportunity to defend themselves at all because my army or sycophants I buy off with pixels follows me blindly.

I'm in

Good luck, Commander

# ? Feb 17, 2016 00:57

JakeP: Apr 27, 2003; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS; Lipstick Apathy

sure

# ? Feb 17, 2016 01:08

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Yep, I'd love to play.

Also I would recommend making explicit that night actions are processed in the order listed in the OP, so for example the Jailer who target the Roleblocker makes the RB fail, and if the SK targets the Scum nightkiller, the Scum kill fals to happen.

# ? Feb 17, 2016 02:56

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Eh, but SK goes subsequent to Town, so that if a victim dies in the night despite the Doc/Jailer getting a "successful" night result, that power role can know it was an SK kill.

# ? Feb 17, 2016 03:28

Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

Updated the OP to reflect that information, just under the role list

# ? Feb 17, 2016 03:40

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Another question worth getting answered up front... will you take replacements? Will you modkill for inactivity?

I recommend explicitly declaring that you won't replace or modkill, in hopes that only people willing to solidly commit will sign up. Replacement issues marred Podima's game, but later on, the decision of not replacing or modkilling TheCog after he went inactive lead to some pretty interesting action and strategic play. Any modkill pretty much destroys this setup.

# ? Feb 17, 2016 04:58

Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

As the OP says, I am reserving the right to modkill at my own discretion. I might put in a blurb about replacements being only a last resort option though, since emergencies and other weird things do happen.

If someone wants to replace out during the game though, even if the OP says I won't do it, they still have the option of just not playing. It is, unfortunately, a self-policing thing because even if I modkill them it just gives them what they want. We'll see what happens.

# ? Feb 17, 2016 18:50

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Friction.123 posted:

As the OP says, I am reserving the right to modkill at my own discretion. I might put in a blurb about replacements being only a last resort option though, since emergencies and other weird things do happen.

If someone wants to replace out during the game though, even if the OP says I won't do it, they still have the option of just not playing. It is, unfortunately, a self-policing thing because even if I modkill them it just gives them what they want. We'll see what happens.

Yeah, I'm just making the point that the option of "just not playing" or "being forced to post like a lurker because of unforeseeable events", or pretending so because you're Scum, are valid things to happen and letting it happen is better for the game than to replace or modkill. The game provides ways of eliminating people who do these things, and it's a feature, not a bug.

Especially the practice of replacement, it's totally corrosive in subtle ways. When it's an option, there's less commitment. Also, a Scum needs to be able to demoralize and intimidate and bait people into looking Scummy, and it's not fair to Scum if someone can just replace out after being galled into a tantrum and be replaced with a set of fresh eyes that can look at the thread objectively and easily dodge a mislynch. The mind game is all part of the fun.

Just my soapbox opinion, I should take it to the discussion thread because this is your game

I think you'll do great.

# ? Feb 17, 2016 20:01

Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

This is unlikely to fill up fast because of all the active games, but I will leave it open so people can mosey over as their games finish out.

# ? Feb 18, 2016 18:53

King Burgundy: Sep 17, 2003; I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

This is not a sign up post yet, in too many games. But I want to play if it takes awhile to open. I really like the setup.

# ? Feb 18, 2016 20:21

King Burgundy: Sep 17, 2003; I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

We should try the day 1 full claim this time.

# ? Feb 18, 2016 20:42

Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

I certainly won't stop you if thats the route you decide to take. Better hope Lumpen isn't your scum team again though.

# ? Feb 19, 2016 02:05

King Burgundy: Sep 17, 2003; I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

I really feel like it's worth the experiment to test Nailbiter in that scenario. If it doesn't happen this game it should happen eventually.

# ? Feb 19, 2016 02:26

Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

The Role PMs have now been added to the OP.

# ? Feb 19, 2016 03:16

Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

Spots going fast act now or imgay will come to your house and take your spot and call you butt lord king of farts.

# ? Feb 19, 2016 17:43

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

As the mod of two previous XCOM games I approve

Not a sign up tho

# ? Feb 20, 2016 04:42

Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

Captain Foo posted:

As the mod of two previous XCOM games I approve

Not a sign up tho

Story of my life

# ? Feb 20, 2016 04:54

blackcross: Apr 10, 2005

I'm in to give this a shot!

# ? Feb 21, 2016 02:03

Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

One quarter there!

# ? Feb 21, 2016 21:19

chaoslord: Jan 28, 2009; Nature Abhors A Vacuum

I'll play

# ? Feb 22, 2016 21:41

Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

Just FYI for those who signed up I have not given up on this, hopefully we can get some sign ups now that some other games are winding down.

# ? Feb 24, 2016 03:40

King Burgundy: Sep 17, 2003; I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

It's probably time to re-advertise this.

I'm in.

# ? Feb 26, 2016 21:54

Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

Yep, although apparently CYOS games are all the rage these days (how do you even parse what is going on in that game?).

# ? Feb 26, 2016 23:10

imgay: May 12, 2014; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Friction.123 posted:

Spots going fast act now or imgay will come to your house and take your spot and call you butt lord king of farts.

# ? Feb 26, 2016 23:26

GulagDolls: Jun 4, 2011

ill play, and help break

# ? Feb 27, 2016 00:04

JakeP: Apr 27, 2003; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS; Lipstick Apathy

Burmp

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:33

Aafter: Apr 14, 2009; A is for After.

Sign me up.

:catdrugs:

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:27

Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

Halfway there!

# ? Feb 28, 2016 01:13

Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

Still looking

# ? Feb 29, 2016 22:56

kordansk: Sep 12, 2011

put me in coach

# ? Mar 3, 2016 09:34

Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

kordansk posted:

put me in coach

Go get em tiger

# ? Mar 3, 2016 18:36

Kashuno: Oct 9, 2012; Where the hell is my SWORD?; Grimey Drawer

Yeah okay I have time now(but if this fills before Sunday I won't be able to participate much)

# ? Mar 3, 2016 18:52

Tricky: Jun 12, 2007; after a great meal i like to lie on the ground and feel like garbage

I'm definitely interested.

# ? Mar 3, 2016 19:45

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Really awesome to see new players! A great setup for newbies!

# ? Mar 3, 2016 19:53

Truth Quark: Mar 21, 2010; EAT THE DONUTS

Tricky posted:

I'm definitely interested.

Is that a sign up I spy? Or an interest post?

# ? Mar 3, 2016 19:56

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 18:19

Tricky: Jun 12, 2007; after a great meal i like to lie on the ground and feel like garbage

Make that a sign-up.

# ? Mar 3, 2016 19:59

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