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My Quandary point no longer stands, given imgay's flip.
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I'm not convinced Max was framed, but I'm more confident in BK. His posts have been kinda out there all game. The slapfight with Ecco D2 was just plain bizarre, and I'm inclined to believe the investigation result. I am also more confident in a BottleKnight vote today, than I am of either Quandary or SSV at this time (as others have said, the fakeclaiming vig is probably the godfather). I think it's more likely to result in us not losing the game.
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Feb 23, 2016 21:12
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Logically, we vote for people other than Quandary and SSV and try to nail the other two scum in the game. If neither flips Godfather (assuming we are right both times) then we know we can't really trust the result on Quandary. If we do nail the godfather, this becomes a non-issue.
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Feb 23, 2016 21:15
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chaoslord, do you think Max and I are both scum or do you concede the possibility of a framer?
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Feb 23, 2016 23:41
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I hope town's ready to lose the game. 3 players immediately saying they'd be fine lynching me just because of my content is not code for something. I have no idea why Max is so sure he was framed but if there is a framer and that is the reason I was copped as scum, then scum have done a pretty immaculate job wrapping up this game.
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Feb 23, 2016 23:43
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BottleKnight posted:I hope town's ready to lose the game. 3 players immediately saying they'd be fine lynching me just because of my content is not code for something. I have no idea why Max is so sure he was framed but if there is a framer and that is the reason I was copped as scum, then scum have done a pretty immaculate job wrapping up this game. Because we are in the setup with a framer and I am town so unless there's a counterclaim, I was absolutely framed.
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Feb 23, 2016 23:50
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Were you not paying attention to all the discussion on the previous day? They has to be a framer in this setup, along with a godfather.
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Feb 23, 2016 23:56
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With Chaoslord claiming cop, there is no other setup we could be in.CapitalistPig posted:Setup 4
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Feb 23, 2016 23:58
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Re-reading BK, I can see that Chaoslord was on him after he must have gotten his result, so I'm fairly certain we won't see a counterclaim.
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Feb 24, 2016 00:01
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I can't tell is BK really wasn't aware and is town or if he's feigning ignorance to look town.
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Feb 24, 2016 00:01
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Max posted:Were you not paying attention to all the discussion on the previous day? They has to be a framer in this setup, along with a godfather. People mentioned it, but I didn't think it was certainty. Can you pull the post for me where someone proves we're in that setup? I don't really care about setup spec unless it's proven. Otherwise it's the wifomiest of wifom
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Feb 24, 2016 00:05
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We had a vig night 2, plus doc and cop puts us in only one setup. How can you not know this? There are only 4 possible setups and they're all posted in the OP.
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Feb 24, 2016 00:17
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I don't believe that he doesn't know this.
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Feb 24, 2016 00:30
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I'm VT, I haven't been paying attention to the layout. I didn't see the cop claim and immediately run out to the OP to compare setups. I just play mafia.
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Feb 24, 2016 00:59
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Please don't pull that "I just play mafia" passive aggressive stuff. This dominated the discussion for all of the previous day, you're just demonstrating that you weren't paying attention in a LYLO situation.
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Feb 24, 2016 01:19
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Yeah this is ridiculous. You don't have to read the setup, you just had to be paying attention more than not at all yesterday. Framer was brought up then, it's not even a new concept to today. If I'm wrong you can all criticize me later but I don't think I am. BK's been disconnected all game and this is just the latest example. ##vote: BottleKnight
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Feb 24, 2016 01:37
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The paranoia that FL is scum and is just baiting a town member to vote is seeping in.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:11
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Do you think BK is framed town?
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Feb 24, 2016 02:30
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##vote SSV still has to be scum. While I'm hesitant to trust the cop results as well, given we have both a godfather and a framer, I do think Max is probably scum from the way he's pushing so hard in favor of SSV over me. It feels a lot like in Soldiers when we were trying to lynch QPQ in lylo and his entire team was fighting tooth and nail against it. If you look back at yesterday, the only people who very strongly opinionated about me vs SSV, aside from us two ourselves, were Max and chaoslord. It makes sense for chaoslord as he has a role related reason to believe me, but Max very strongly pushes against me and makes a very questionable case. I find it really hard to believe that a town Max would have pushed so hard without any sense of questioning, which leaves me to believe he's pushing to save his scum buddy SSV.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:35
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Why vote BK today? We know unequivocally that one of me or SSV is scum, I don't see any reason to vote someone else until one of us is dead.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:37
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Someone please read Max's posts after my vig first flipped and tell me those aren't scum trying to be sympathetic town. Very confident that SSV/Max are two of them, and most likely either BK or flying leather man as the third, given that the game hasnt ended from flying leathermans vote.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:40
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If we find a way to nail the other two scum, we can see if either flips godfather. If the godfather flips, then yes, SSV is definitely scum. If they don't then we know we can't trust the investigation result on you.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:41
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##vote BK because now I am certain Quandary is scum.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:41
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If I'm wrong, oh well.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:42
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GG to scum if I just hosed up.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:43
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Honestly, do we even need to keep this day going? I feel like we'd have a more productive discussion once we get a scum flip on the field. Quandary posted:Why vote BK today? We know unequivocally that one of me or SSV is scum, I don't see any reason to vote someone else until one of us is dead. Because from the perspective of someone who isn't me, it's a 50/50 between us two and they're a lot more than 50% confident that BottleKnight is scum.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:47
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SSV, I feel good about BK.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:49
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Look at what Quandary is doing by the way. He knows BK is going to flip scum and is trying to set me up for the next vote.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:51
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I understand the logic of looking for the godfather, but if you're confident I'm scum why aren't you voting me? You were confident I was scum yesterday without any investigations, why does that change now? Like, we know that one of me or SSV, is scum, everyone else is just a guess. Even with the cop results they aren't confirmed given there's a framer at work If you are confident I'm scum, you should be voting me plain and simple. You're actions make no sense as a townie.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:53
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Quandary posted:Someone please read Max's posts after my vig first flipped and tell me those aren't scum trying to be sympathetic town. This post was writen from the perspective of someone that sees the BK lunch coming and knows the game is going to keep going.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:54
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Oh wait, we're at -2 not -1. I was holding my back vote to avoid a premature hammer just in case. ##vote bottleknight
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Feb 24, 2016 02:55
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Quandary posted:I understand the logic of looking for the godfather, but if you're confident I'm scum why aren't you voting me? You were confident I was scum yesterday without any investigations, why does that change now? Like, we know that one of me or SSV, is scum, everyone else is just a guess. Even with the cop results they aren't confirmed given there's a framer at work Because I want to be 100% sure.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:55
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I am trying to set you up for the next lynch yes, because I am 100% confident that SSV will flip scum then I'll mosg likely die tonight, so I want to get my arguments on the table before that happens.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:55
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Why SSV? He's clearly not getting lunched.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:57
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Do you think BK is scum?
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Feb 24, 2016 02:57
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BK very might (and honestly probably is) the third scum! I don't disagree on that at all, and in fact I said that already a few posts ago! Its either flying leathermans or BK by the fact that the game didn't end when flying leathermans vote when down, and given the investigation its more likely to be BK.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:58
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And why in the world would scum NK you? They're clearly going to kill chaoslord.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:58
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Then vote him!
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Feb 24, 2016 02:59
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His fakeclaim requires him to "believe" that I am 100% scum, so he is refusing to let go of his vote on me because it is more "townie" to vote for someone you know is definitely scum.
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Max posted:And why in the world would scum NK you? They're clearly going to kill chaoslord. Forgot about this, you're probably right on this one. Max posted:Then vote him! I AM LITERALLY ONE HUNDRED PERCENT CONFIDENG SSV IS SCUM BECAUSE HE IS CLAIMING MY VIG WHY WOULD I MOVE MY VOTE. Max you're smarter than this.
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