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LASTCAR posted:Not one thing about this surprises me. Trump's in the news more than just about anything and Brian just wants more exposure for himself and the brand. If any other candidate from either party had nearly as much TV time, I'm sure he'd be with that person instead. I dunno man, I think this is more Brian's doing. I doubt NASCAR corporate is enjoying this at all right now.
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LASTCAR posted:Not one thing about this surprises me. Trump's in the news more than just about anything and Brian just wants more exposure for himself and the brand. If any other candidate from either party had nearly as much TV time, I'm sure he'd be with that person instead. On the one side, I get that. Like, if he'd done this with ANY other candidate I'd just be like yeah cool fine, but Trump. I mean, the dude just also got an endorsement from the Grand Dragon of the goddamn KKK. That is going to disprove the adage that any publicity is good publicity.
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Uncle Jam posted:I dunno man, I think this is more Brian's doing. I doubt NASCAR corporate is enjoying this at all right now. quote:In response to an inquiry from Yahoo Sports regarding France's endorsement in light of the July withdrawal, NASCAR VP David Higdon responded, "Private personal decision by Brian." To me, that translates to NASCAR corporate going "  ".
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You know, if he had just gone on his own time, I wouldn't be OK with it, but gently caress it, he's a private citizen and he can go to the klavern if he wants. But bringing in the NASCAR drivers with him to do photo ops absolutely makes it seem like the sanctioning body's involved (even if this isn't the case), and that is real, real not good.
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CBJSprague24 posted:To me, that translates to NASCAR corporate going " Hahaha bless that idiot
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I agree with you LASTCAR. This seems more like trying to get in the limelight with Trump by saying "Hey we're relevant see, we got an evangelical driver (Ragan), an old favorite southern driver (Bill) and his rising star son (Chase), and dumbass conspiracy theorist (Newman), so hey we're just like you so watch us." I wonder if they planned this a few weeks ago before David Duke and the KKK got involved so yet again NASCAR got hosed hard. Looking at the replies on Jeff Gluck's twitter is full on saying gently caress this sport, but who knows since I'm guessing 90% of who follows NASCAR doesn't have a twitter. Man never thought the two threads I read most would combine in the dumbest way.
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BMB5150 posted:I agree with you LASTCAR. This seems more like trying to get in the limelight with Trump by saying "Hey we're relevant see, we got an evangelical driver (Ragan), an old favorite southern driver (Bill) and his rising star son (Chase), and dumbass conspiracy theorist (Newman), so hey we're just like you so watch us." I wonder if they planned this a few weeks ago before David Duke and the KKK got involved so yet again NASCAR got hosed hard. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump's referred to NASCAR as some combination of "dumbass hick sport", "anybody could do it", or "cars going around in circles" in his lifetime, and yet France wants to rub elbows with him. It definitely feels like an attention grab and, much like most everything else, feels like one which could backfire in a major way. Monte Dutton, about the only current or former NASCAR media member I know of who has the stones to complain, is flabbergasted. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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Alain Post posted:You know, if he had just gone on his own time, I wouldn't be OK with it, but gently caress it, he's a private citizen and he can go to the klavern if he wants. But bringing in the NASCAR drivers with him to do photo ops absolutely makes it seem like the sanctioning body's involved (even if this isn't the case), and that is real, real not good. Photo op is an understatement, he gave a loving speech at a rally https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/704448593227325440 God drat there are people saluting after that what is this mess Here's Chase Elliot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtUoQiKIJ7E&t=212s Uncle Jam fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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Uncle Jam posted:Photo op is an understatement, he gave a loving speech at a rally Bill was one of my childhood race heros. Hell, I even have the NES game with his name on it. This disappoints me and makes me no longer want to cheer on Chase.
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Donald Drumpf posted:If the people that like and watch NASCAR vote for Donald Trump, they can cancel the election right now -- nobody can win Someone should show him the TV ratings before making claims like that. Edit: And Mike Joy weighed in on Twitter. Mike Joy posted:No we won’t be discussing this gaffe on @FOXSports on Sunday. Off limits topics include Race/ Religion/ Sex/ Politics. Good to see this move is receiving negative feedback almost everywhere online. My dream of NASCAR crumbling to the ground is still in effect. 
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Why is Ragan the evangelical?
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Uncle Jam posted:Photo op is an understatement, he gave a loving speech at a rally seeing bill there just hurts
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I'm going to write or tweet to the title sponsors and NAPA. And Newman's sponsor, whoever that is. I'm also not planning on buying or wearing any NASCAR gear until this is hashed out. I don't really have much desire to be associated with that bigoted, racist, fascist piece of poo poo at all. No one should have to apologize for their political affiliation, and believe me being a liberal in Idaho I get that, but France, in combination with the Elliotts and tinfoil hat man, has made us as NASCAR fans look like even worse rednecks, and I am having a hard time justifying to myself why I should support NASCAR any longer.
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Peanut President posted:This pretty much proves any talk of diversity is bullshit, right? "We want mexican drivers but let me tell you about those job-stealing rapists coming across our border" They'll probably just push guys like Wallace and Suarez even harder in the most transparent "look, we're not racist" ploy of all time. Remember a year ago when they half-assedely tried to ask people to stop flying confederate flags? They don't know what they loving want
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Peanut President posted:This pretty much proves any talk of diversity is bullshit, right? "We want mexican drivers but let me tell you about those job-stealing rapists coming across our border" It is total PR bullshit.
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Trump and Kim Jong Brian actually match up well together. They inherited all their money and their own endeavors have been failures. This is timed perfectly with their still-active search for a new title sponsor, which I'm sure won't be affected by this at all. Look forward to Super-Chase 5.0 to determine the winner of the 2017 Trump Cup. I can imagine Sprint is glad that their contract is over this year. Harveygod fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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kidcoelacanth posted:They'll probably just push guys like Wallace and Suarez even harder in the most transparent "look, we're not racist" ploy of all time. They'll probably also push Danica hard (not that she needs it, but she'll take it) because "Look, we have female drivers, too! The whole sport isn't white men!". Backing so many candidates is sort of a metaphor for NASCAR's thinking these days: they want it as many ways as they can have it. As I said before, the moment that awakened NASCAR to the masses resulted in fines and probation to both Allison and Yarborough. They want Joey Logano dumping Matt Kenseth out of the lead, but they're also going to fine people for doing it according to their new punishment system. They'd LOVE to have some big-time drama like Kenseth piledriving Logano right back at Martinsville, but that's a multi-race suspension and/or ban because they can't make this look like a bloodsport. Encouraging new teams yet creating a massive barrier to entry (almost like...a wall?) because of the Charter system and the disparity in prize money between the two types of teams. I don't care if Kim Jong France endorses Trump. What bothers me is that he IS NASCAR and, regardless of intent, this affects NASCAR. When Mike Joy and a god drat NASCAR VP both effectively say "No, that's HIM, not US.", you know you done messed up. e- In case anybody wondered if I was exaggerating in my rundown of the SXM NASCAR shows, Jim Noble dares to differ and Dave Moody is towing the line like a loving mark: https://twitter.com/DGodfatherMoody/status/704677862935138310 "NUH-UH HE DIDN'T". CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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All cars sponsored by the military. Trump Cup sounds nice. Confederate flags traded for Trump flags or toupees. This is the smartest thing France has ever done, not that the bar is all that high.
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Fans* will cheer as President Trump calls the congresswoman who fought to end military involvement "a fat, stupid, wrinkled, bloated old hag" in an event at Daytona International Stadium and allows military sponsorships to resume. *Some fans. Not all.
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Elitist Bitch posted:On the one side, I get that. Like, if he'd done this with ANY other candidate I'd just be like yeah cool fine, but Trump. I mean, the dude just also got an endorsement from the Grand Dragon of the goddamn KKK. That is going to disprove the adage that any publicity is good publicity. in all fairness every election cycle has the "the KKK endorsed WHO?!?!" story and at this point it's fairly tiring CBJSprague24 posted:It wouldn't surprise me if Trump's referred to NASCAR as some combination of "dumbass hick sport", "anybody could do it", or "cars going around in circles" in his lifetime, and yet France wants to rub elbows with him. It definitely feels like an attention grab and, much like most everything else, feels like one which could backfire in a major way. Trump was part of the group trying to build a superspeedway somewhere in NY back in the 90's http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/video/trump-speedway-almost-happened-010516 Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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VikingSkull posted:Trump was part of the group trying to build a superspeedway somewhere in NY back in the 90's Never knew that.
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I only do because loving city transplants here voted it down because of "noise concerns" despite it being potentially located in the buffer zone that loving C-5's used daily one meeting away from having a high banked 2.5 mile superspeedway/road course/drag strip/dirt oval complex 5 miles from my house and they voted it down 
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Here's a NY Times article when the project first started. I dunno if it would've killed off the Glen, that's 5 hours from here. Would've hurt Pocono possibly, but if it was built prior to 2000 like they wanted you'd likely see it as the last race of the year and as big as the Daytona 500.
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VikingSkull posted:Here's a NY Times article when the project first started.  to everything you just said.
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45 minutes from NYC with direct rail access bro, it was gonna be a crazy facility
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VikingSkull posted:45 minutes from NYC with direct rail access bro, it was gonna be a crazy facility Reminds me of Texas world and Ontario tbh
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VikingSkull posted:45 minutes from NYC with direct rail access bro, it was gonna be a crazy facility Makes sense. Imagine if they put a track next to LA, it would sell out at least 2 races. It might even warrant booting a solid racetrack and a crown jewel from the schedule.
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Seriously though, I'm sorry for you that it didn't get made. You would have at least enjoyed it after if the rest of the city lost interest.
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VikingSkull posted:Here's a NY Times article when the project first started. Maybe they would've sped up the conversion of 17 to 86. Man, I need to drive that someday.
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Harveygod posted:Makes sense. Imagine if they put a track next to LA, it would sell out at least 2 races. It might even warrant booting a solid racetrack and a crown jewel from the schedule. I love AMS as a track, but I would give up the race there for them switching to Road Atlanta. I would probably still be sad about not racing at the oval though. What I am saying is, it would probably be AMS that was kicked out. HFX fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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VikingSkull posted:45 minutes from NYC with direct rail access bro, it was gonna be a crazy facility [looks at all the failed LA tracks, nods]
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Peanut President posted:[looks at all the failed LA tracks, nods] good reasoning, we better sell the football teams before anyone finds out e- reminder that within this "non racing fan area" we have dozens of tracks (which LA doesn't). we get 7-10k people for Eastern States, Syracuse would draw 70k. you would've got 70k at that track consistently just from the race fans outside NYC Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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