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# ? Apr 24, 2024 09:09 |
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King Mo is on his latest podcast (which is tape delayed because Celebrity Apprentice) and they spend some time nerding out about both amateur and pro wrestling.
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 02:38 |
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origami posted:... it mostly sounds like you're just unhappy at your gym. From a while back but relevant again. I definitely should have taken this a bit more seriously. In the last 3-6 months all the guys I loved training with have left and now it's just the morning class with the great brown belt instructor keeping me going. I'm especially frustrated because I'm doing great in tournaments and I absolutely love rolling with upper belts now that I actually have a gameplan and ideas of what to drill. Every other school I've been to has the head instructor constantly walking around and checking up on technique and giving pointers and actively asking for questions. Not so here. Maybe I'm being a bit ungrateful here, but it's really lovely when you've spent more than a year at the school and feel like your main coach doesn't give a poo poo about you. I dropped in for a week at East Van BJJ up in Vancouver and felt like family there - incredibly welcoming, coaches stayed after class to work some extra technique, cornered me at a tournament even though they only knew me for like an hour. Wish my main school was like that
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# ? Feb 29, 2016 15:47 |
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You aren't married to your gym.
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# ? Feb 29, 2016 17:06 |
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Tezcatlipoca posted:You aren't married to your gym. True. However, it's the closest gym to me and it's got a ton more upper belts than any other place around here so it's why I've stayed so long. Either way I'm moving to another state in June so I'm probably going to tough it out for the rest of my contract. Shame, it could be such an awesome school.
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# ? Feb 29, 2016 17:47 |
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fatherdog posted:I don't follow wrestling enough to even slightly have an opinion on the NJCAA nationals, but here's Chael's. Thoguh, your thoughts? I don't follow recruiting or the lower levels all that much so I don't have any huge opinions about the team race. Iowa Central CC is always really good though. ISU, Iowa, and other schools will stash recruits there and more importantly, their coach has a policy that if you win an NJCAA title as a freshman, you can redshirt as a sophomore but stay on scholarship. That's huge because it allows guys to have three years of eligibility remaining when they graduate and move on to a four year school. Speaking of wrestling though, it's conference tournament season right now. Pac-12's were last weekend and Oregon State claimed their fifth consecutive title. The other seven conference championships are all this coming weekend. Here's an article explaining what's at stake in each championship and links for how to watch or otherwise follow along. The ACC is looking surprisingly strong this year and has a really good shot at having more Champions/All Americans per team than the Big Ten.
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# ? Feb 29, 2016 19:38 |
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I purchased and tore through the Reilly Seminar during the weekend, it was great and I recommend it. He goes over stuff seen in top rock and his other DVD's but in a more in depth way.
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# ? Feb 29, 2016 19:40 |
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Thoguh posted:The ACC is looking surprisingly strong this year and has a really good shot at having more Champions/All Americans per team than the Big Ten. Any Hokie-specific thoughts?
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# ? Mar 1, 2016 00:18 |
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Kekekela posted:Any Hokie-specific thoughts? They're pretty cool and Dresser might be the best coach in the sport right now. Top five for sure. If they stay healthy through conferences and NCAAs they should have at least 1 national champ (Gwaizdowski) and possibly 2 (Epperly and Dance both have a decent shot at it) plus a couple other All Americans. I don't think they've got a great shot at winning it all, but I think they've got a really good shot at being in the top three.
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# ? Mar 1, 2016 14:54 |
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Thoguh posted:They're pretty cool and Dresser might be the best coach in the sport right now. Top five for sure. If they stay healthy through conferences and NCAAs they should have at least 1 national champ (Gwaizdowski) and possibly 2 (Epperly and Dance both have a decent shot at it) plus a couple other All Americans. I don't think they've got a great shot at winning it all, but I think they've got a really good shot at being in the top three. Awesome man, thanks!
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# ? Mar 1, 2016 16:11 |
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Tezcatlipoca posted:You aren't married to your gym. just kidding, the politics of BJJ are absolute bullshit find an academy where you like the instructors and the vibe even if that means trying a few different ones
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# ? Mar 1, 2016 21:33 |
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ch3cooh posted:
I left my old BJJ gym largely to save on commute time. I am an insufferable creontch.
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# ? Mar 1, 2016 21:38 |
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Yeah, I don't regret changing gyms, my old instructor was salty about it and didn't want to keep in touch but I'm much more happy at my new place.
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# ? Mar 1, 2016 22:23 |
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I finally fully signed up to a good gym after sorting out my hamstring issues. I asked some beginner questions earlier but I'd like to ask a few more. What's the cup consensus, last time their was a split iirc. I was planning on doing no cup 4 lyfe until my second lesson where my partner kneed my balls twice during a toss drill. As for my other questions, what's a good amount of times to train each week to make significant progress. I want to get competetent but I don't want to burn out so I'm planning on three times a week because I play soccer/basketball, weightlift, etc. Hard to fit in a 4th time doing all that but I've seen posts of new students wanting to get in 6 times a week. Lastly I'm completely green having never done any grappling before so I'm obviously feeling a bit slow compared to other white belts who have wrestled etc. Are there any fundamental fundamental movements to get down that I can practice in my own time so I don't have to figure out the extreme basics during drills. Lastly how long is it usually before gyms let beginners spar? I did a drop in at one place where I sparred without incident my first session. At my actual gym the instructor had me sit out but later told me the gym is generally pretty lenient compared to most gyms when it comes to letting white belts spar. Obviously they have to size up that you don't panic, spaz, or try stupid stuff and that's not in my character but I understand that's hard to get across until they've seen me on the mats for a bit. How long did it take most of you to start sparring a week, 6 months?
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# ? Mar 1, 2016 22:23 |
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Seltzer posted:I finally fully signed up to a good gym after sorting out my hamstring issues. I asked some beginner questions earlier but I'd like to ask a few more. What's the cup consensus, last time their was a split iirc. I was planning on doing no cup 4 lyfe until my second lesson where my partner kneed my balls twice during a toss drill. As for my other questions, what's a good amount of times to train each week to make significant progress. I want to get competetent but I don't want to burn out so I'm planning on three times a week because I play soccer/basketball, weightlift, etc. Hard to fit in a 4th time doing all that but I've seen posts of new students wanting to get in 6 times a week. Lastly I'm completely green having never done any grappling before so I'm obviously feeling a bit slow compared to other white belts who have wrestled etc. Are there any fundamental fundamental movements to get down that I can practice in my own time so I don't have to figure out the extreme basics during drills. Lastly how long is it usually before gyms let beginners spar? I did a drop in at one place where I sparred without incident my first session. At my actual gym the instructor had me sit out but later told me the gym is generally pretty lenient compared to most gyms when it comes to letting white belts spar. Obviously they have to size up that you don't panic, spaz, or try stupid stuff and that's not in my character but I understand that's hard to get across until they've seen me on the mats for a bit. How long did it take most of you to start sparring a week, 6 months? Theres no good reason not to wear a cup, just wear a cup so your balls dont get crushed, unless you hate the feeling of wearing a cup more than the feeling of your sack getting injured Youll get plenty better training 3 times a week especially at first. Just train as much as you want, and a good thing with BJJ is once you get to a certain point of competence in moving your body around you can actually get a lot of mileage out of visualization and thinking about techniques off the mat too Sparring in BJJ is usually called rolling in order to differentiate it from striking arts where sparring means hitting each other. You should be allowed to roll pretty much right away as long as you arent a spaz and there are good training partners who match up size-wise with you. Usually worst case scenario they notice youre being a spaz and get a brown/black belt to effortlessly beat you up to show you what its supposed to look like, its not like boxing where doing that would involve severe brain damage so its pretty easy to rein guys in. You should be rolling very soon
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# ? Mar 1, 2016 22:45 |
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manyak posted:Theres no good reason not to wear a cup, just wear a cup so your balls dont get crushed, unless you hate the feeling of wearing a cup more than the feeling of your sack getting injured Cool. Yea I just remember people being diehard no cup dudes and the one guy I asked the first day basically said he saw no point to it. Maybe I got unlucky re: the toss exercise ending in nut shots? Are there like compression shorts with a soft cup, I'd think about that over something really uncomfortable. As for rolling yea I've heard different things from different instructors, the first guy was pretty cautious (it was my 1st day) the second guy had no qualms with me rolling at the end but I had cut my foot open from mat burn to the point it was bleeding a lot so I called it quits early. Again he said they're lenient which is cool, he said another good gym in the area requires someone to have two stripes before sparring which seems excessive. My major concern about rolling isn't spazzing out or not respecting people (i did fine the few times I did it) I just feel bad being so useless against higher ranked dudes and basically becoming and instantly submittable grappling dummy and wasting their time (though I assume every new whitebelt feels like this) Seltzer fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Mar 1, 2016 |
# ? Mar 1, 2016 23:48 |
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Don't feel bad about that, you're giving blues the chance to work on their attacks.
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 00:02 |
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I've never used cups. They were not used in in wrestling. I think compression shorts are a good idea if you're worried about your purse.
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 00:14 |
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Granted I've only been doing bjj since November, but there is no way I could wear a cup when training. Plus I would probably get mad feeling a cup shoved up against a bone when someone has all their weight on me...
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 00:18 |
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See I think I just got unlucky, but again I was wondering if there was a soft cup, a Crumple Cup if you will.
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 00:19 |
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Visualization practice is amazing when it produces immediate results. It's the thing closest to magic I've ever experienced.
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 00:24 |
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Yeah theres soft cups you can wear with compression shorts
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 00:29 |
Seltzer posted:See I think I just got unlucky, but again I was wondering if there was a soft cup, a Crumple Cup if you will. Yeah there's a couple kinds out there. I've heard good things about Spider Guard cups, never used one though.
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 00:29 |
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Yeah i used to have a silicone one with a lot of flex in it. It wont protect you from say a knee to the balls but your occasional bad technique and rolling incident should be fine. Cant remember the drat name of it though.
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 00:40 |
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In 10 years of wrestling I never wore a cup or mouthguard. I realize they're different sports, so I defer to those who actually practice BJJ, but are there that many more opportunities to get hit in the face and/or balls?
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 00:50 |
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if you are a shower wear a cup, if you are a grower don't bother always wear a mouthguard though
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 01:00 |
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JHomer722 posted:In 10 years of wrestling I never wore a cup or mouthguard. I realize they're different sports, so I defer to those who actually practice BJJ, but are there that many more opportunities to get hit in the face and/or balls? Yeah. You spend a lot of the time on the ground with your legs spread and guys trying to drive their knees and elbows into the area near your balls, lots of positions involve having your feet and legs tangled near a guys balls, and other times you put someone in a triangle or an armbar and have to use the area near your dick and balls for leverage to injure them You dont have to wear a cup or mouthguard if you dont want to but if youre rolling hard or training for competition i dont get why you wouldnt at least wear a mouthguard
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 01:42 |
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I always wear a mouthguard even for drilling usually but I hate wearing cups and haven't worn one in ages, despite training to fight. Haven't had any serious (or any at all) injury to my groin so far. That's my two cents. Always wear compression shorts though.
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 03:51 |
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Not wearing a cup when you grapple makes sense if you enjoy getting your balls crushed, but the price of gym dues would go a long way towards just paying an apathetic Russian lady to do it instead
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 04:11 |
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Seltzer posted:As for rolling yea I've heard different things from different instructors, the first guy was pretty cautious (it was my 1st day) the second guy had no qualms with me rolling at the end but I had cut my foot open from mat burn to the point it was bleeding a lot so I called it quits early. Again he said they're lenient which is cool, he said another good gym in the area requires someone to have two stripes before sparring which seems excessive. My major concern about rolling isn't spazzing out or not respecting people (i did fine the few times I did it) I just feel bad being so useless against higher ranked dudes and basically becoming and instantly submittable grappling dummy and wasting their time (though I assume every new whitebelt feels like this) Everyone has been where you are, so everyone who's not a prick should help you learn. Work on your defense, just try to survive. Have a plan, if you know they're going to pass your guard figure out what you want to do next and how you want your body to be positioned so that you can get back to guard, for example. Ask questions, I always ask what I could have done better or for someone to show me a counter to whatever they caught me with. Get comfortable being uncomfortable. Watch a ton of videos if you can.
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JHomer722 posted:In 10 years of wrestling I never wore a cup or mouthguard. I realize they're different sports, so I defer to those who actually practice BJJ, but are there that many more opportunities to get hit in the face and/or balls? I never wore either in wrestling or in Judo but in BJJ I've started wearing a mouthguard and its well worth it. There's way more situations were there is pressure on your jaw that a mouthguard relieves. Don't wear a cup though, I think they're uncomfortable and compression shorts keep stuff nice and tight enough to protect against most contact, though there is still the occasional blow that makes me with I was wearing a cup. Modern mouthguards are also about a thousand times more comfortable and easy to breathe with than the ones I remember using during football in high school. If I'd known that I probably would have started using one sooner.
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 14:56 |
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I just got my new gladiator custom mouthguard and its awesome. Barely notice it breathing-wise. Seems to work pretty well too, I was rolling and caught a spinning elbow to the jaw during a scramble, but was fine.
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 15:08 |
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A few more questions. I already think I know the answer to both but whatever. First off, I've been really soft with my partners to not be that new guy who does something stupid but I was told at least once by my partner and instructor to go harder. I'm assuming people know well enough when to tap even if they're other white belts? I was doing my tosses with some of the force taken out and when we were drilling RNCs I was kinda not full forcing it. We also did some transition that required putting a lot of force on a grounded forearm to use as a lever and I didn't know how much to really drive in. I have no problem when other people toss me into the air or choke me hard but as I said I don't want to be that new guy loving up. Second question, I lift three times a week, it's a pretty basic set of routines I rotate every other few months on the advice of a friend who's a personal trainer but I was wondering if there were any lifts to add in take out that would help with bjj (the answer is probably as long as I'm doing normal lifts it should be enough I assume).
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Seltzer posted:A few more questions. I already think I know the answer to both but whatever. First off, I've been really soft with my partners to not be that new guy who does something stupid but I was told at least once by my partner and instructor to go harder. I'm assuming people know well enough when to tap even if they're other white belts? I was doing my tosses with some of the force taken out and when we were drilling RNCs I was kinda not full forcing it. We also did some transition that required putting a lot of force on a grounded forearm to use as a lever and I didn't know how much to really drive in. I have no problem when other people toss me into the air or choke me hard but as I said I don't want to be that guy. Second question, I lift three times a week, it's a pretty basic set of routines I rotate every other few months on the advice of a friend who's a personal trainer but I was wondering if there were any lifts to add in take out that would help with bjj (the answer is probably as long as I'm doing normal lifts it should be enough I assume). Do you mean that you're doing things like letting go of an arm bar in a drill before your opponent taps?
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Seltzer posted:A few more questions. I already think I know the answer to both but whatever. First off, I've been really soft with my partners to not be that new guy who does something stupid but I was told at least once by my partner and instructor to go harder. I'm assuming people know well enough when to tap even if they're other white belts? I was doing my tosses with some of the force taken out and when we were drilling RNCs I was kinda not full forcing it. We also did some transition that required putting a lot of force on a grounded forearm to use as a lever and I didn't know how much to really drive in. I have no problem when other people toss me into the air or choke me hard but as I said I don't want to be that guy. Second question, I lift three times a week, it's a pretty basic set of routines I rotate every other few months on the advice of a friend who's a personal trainer but I was wondering if there were any lifts to add in take out that would help with bjj (the answer is probably as long as I'm doing normal lifts it should be enough I assume). Going harder doesn't necessarily mean going faster. You can apply more force without blasting through to full extension and hurting your training partner, if that's what you're worried about. If you're practicing something like finishing a RNC, then finish the RNC. Don't, like, crush his windpipe with a sloppy one before he can react but do the sub, properly, at strength. That's the whole point of drilling a finish.
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CommonShore posted:Do you mean that you're doing things like letting go of an arm bar in a drill before your opponent taps? Nah just not really cranking hard, kinda slowly pulling harder until I get a tap when I could be doing it quicker/with more force (I'm doing it slower than my partner for sure). And with the forearm lever thing I was kinda placing my foot on the forearm instead of really driving through.
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# ? Mar 3, 2016 19:31 |
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Seltzer posted:Nah just not really cranking hard, kinda slowly pulling harder until I get a tap when I could be doing it quicker/with more force. And with the forearm lever thing I was kinda placing my foot on the forearm instead of really driving through. Do the drill. If the drill is supposed to hurt, make it hurt. It's the only way you'll learn how to do it correctly. Stay under control, but have some faith in your partners and coaches to keep things safe.
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# ? Mar 3, 2016 19:32 |
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Do the drill. If the drill is supposed to hurt, make it hurt. It's the only way you'll learn how to do it correctly. Stay under control, but have some faith in your partners and coaches to keep things safe. I figured as much, I think I just needed to be told it. It's obviously all completely new to me so slamming my foot into my 16 yr old 130 lb whitebelt partners arm feels unnatural at this juncture despite him being a lot more skilled than me.
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# ? Mar 3, 2016 19:34 |
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Yeah and you could be way worse in terms of being too light, too. I have to tell lots of new people "keep working for the hold until I tap, because that's how you know you've done it correctly."
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# ? Apr 24, 2024 09:09 |
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I think going slow on the pull or crank once you have something locked in is the right way to go as a beginner, especially if we're talking about drilling here. You don't need to be pulling your punches but don't force the entry. Slow is smooth. and smooth is fast. Also, without knowing how big you are, please don't go slamming your 130 lb children, just slowly smash them. Think about focusing the pressure rather than exploding.
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