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I have a feeling this is just part of a larger effort on expansion of post sales testing of cars after the whole VW thing. Probably there is a lot of liability to clarify, not that these documents are a mess any way. Who knows with the EPA anyway. The EPA testing center here has a hardened gate with those giant wedge gates to prevent people from driving a car bomb into the facility, it's really bizarre.
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And then there are some states without emissions at all - college roommate had a new Suburban from Colorado he didn't have to smog check at all. It was weird. I agree there's largely bigger fish to go after (the biggest of them all are ships, really, those things pollute like crazy) and I'm sure in time this will be clarified. Probably means the end of straight pipes on street cars, or for BETTER things that still remain emissions legal.
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# ? Feb 10, 2016 23:09 |
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harperdc posted:And then there are some states without emissions at all - college roommate had a new Suburban from Colorado he didn't have to smog check at all. It was weird. The EPA center is for OEMs. We don't have emissions testing either, but I guess because Michigan. We have a ban on speed cameras and red light cameras too. I think this thing is blown out of proportion, because of SEMA. I'm sure there are good companies who are members of SEMA but there's also bullshit like Fuel Doctor and cheap lovely ECU reflashers guaranteed to grenade your engine, and it will be hard to shed tears if those kinds of companies get shut down. They can get hosed. Considering there are many 400hp+ passenger cars that meet emissions, I don't see the need to remove emissions controls for tracking cars. For sure there are corner cases like LeMons and transiting rally cars that are just in poor condition but I doubt they'll get banned.
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 01:25 |
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Uncle Jam posted:The EPA center is for OEMs. We don't have emissions testing either, but I guess because Michigan. We have a ban on speed cameras and red light cameras too. every street stock and drag car in America would be subject to this, it's not a small issue
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 17:48 |
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Tokyo Sexwhale posted:Unfortunately, it's going to be impossible to have a civilized discussion of the actual intent of what they're trying to clarify, because it is a hot-button nexus/honeypot of ARE FREEDUMBS, BAH GUBBERMINT, MAH RAIGHTS, and EEEEEPEEEEAAAAAA/FEMA DEATH CAMPS that all feed into each other like a human centipede of hyperbolic reaction and kneejerk bullshit. These groups also tend to have large diesel trucks where they've intentionally disabled the emissions controls on them. Yep, I have tried telling people to calm down but if they have even the slightest "gently caress the government/democrats/obummer" tendencies it's a losing battle.
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# ? Feb 14, 2016 00:29 |
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Anyone else catch the NHRA Winternationals this past weekend on FS1? I watched all 3 shows (friday and saturday qualifying, sunday eliminations) and while there was a good number of production gaffes and mistakes given it was the very first time the production had been done in house, I can see where they are going to try and take it and I think it's a major breath of fresh air to the standard "missionary position" coverage ESPN had been doing. I also was very surprised by Tony Pendregon as I thought he did very well considering it was first time as a host. I would assume with 3 or 4 more race weekends under their belt that the FS1/NHRA show will be vastly superior to what ESPN was doing. Also, the EFI pro stocks were interesting. I guess the Summit boys got sick of getting their asses handed to them last year. They were leaving quick and had a major performance advantage all weekend. ColonelJohnMatrix fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Feb 15, 2016 |
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lol @ Hot Rod calling out dudes in Pro Stock for covering their engines also lol @ Pro Stock cars being slower than Hot Rod Drag Week cars
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 21:04 |
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VikingSkull posted:lol @ Hot Rod calling out dudes in Pro Stock for covering their engines How NHRA let them get away with that I don't get it. It was obvious on TV that they were covering them up.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 21:27 |
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VikingSkull posted:lol @ Hot Rod calling out dudes in Pro Stock for covering their engines I know we've talked about it before here but there really is a gigantic difference in atmosphere around the PS pits. The nitro and sportsman guys are generally all cool as hell and have problem shooting the poo poo with people and/or showing them stuff should their time be free for a moment. The PS pits are like cold war era Russia. (whoops, didn't mean to double post)
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 21:32 |
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I didn't catch the races, did they show Densham going into the net? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8xAb2OKxoY
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 21:36 |
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Peanut President posted:I didn't catch the races, did they show Densham going into the net? Yes they did, although not in real time like that feed showing the response time. He is very lucky he was not on fire, as if you watch how long he sat in that mess before help arrived he surely would've burnt to death. That was a pretty horrific accident, luckily the nets worked.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 21:39 |
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at least the nets didn't kill him like that one dude
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 21:58 |
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Formula E races on a lot of bad street circuits, but the new layout for Germany might be the worst yet. Thank christ we have an actual racetrack for the next race.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 02:51 |
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Coming soon to Indycar.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 03:07 |
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njsykora posted:Formula E races on a lot of bad street circuits, but the new layout for Germany might be the worst yet. A1GP China, never forget
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 03:53 |
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A1GP: Cool concept, poo poo execution
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 04:00 |
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hey guys why in the world is toyota's le mans entry called "gazoo racing"
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 13:53 |
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be nice wicka posted:hey guys because it's incredibly annoying and slightly effeminate, clearly
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 13:56 |
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be nice wicka posted:hey guys It was a team/branding started with Nurburgring 24 and other more "grassroots" racing, kind of away from an old classic works team. But they've decided they want all of their motorsports (WEC, WRC next year, Nürburgring 24, Super GT, Super Formula, etc) under the one banner, and chose to go with that. I think it's also a pet project of Akio Toyoda who is the current president and has started to re-emphasize motorsports and the "fun to drive" factor. They changed the name of the WEC team last year but only from this year is it getting the new paint job.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 14:18 |
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so they literally just picked the word "gazoo" because they thought it was fun?
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 14:27 |
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be nice wicka posted:so they literally just picked the word "gazoo" because Japan There ya go
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 14:29 |
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So you remember when Lamborghini were kicking the ever loving poo poo against everyone in the gtd class. Well they all had unapproved parts in the air intake and all have 25k fines and point penalties. Oh and that's another hit on the now dissolved O'Gara team that just dissolved leaving Sweedler and Townsend Bell without a ride now.
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# ? Feb 22, 2016 20:22 |
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The Audi people I spoke to after the race were adamant that the Hurácans were cheating and I was told (with a bit of a smile) that IMSA was impounding cars to check their engines. Looks like they were right.
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# ? Feb 22, 2016 23:30 |
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BMB5150 posted:So you remember when Lamborghini were kicking the ever loving poo poo against everyone in the gtd class. Well they all had unapproved parts in the air intake and all have 25k fines and point penalties. Oh that poo poo is just too rich
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# ? Feb 22, 2016 23:46 |
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drgitlin posted:The Audi people I spoke to after the race were adamant that the Hurácans were cheating and I was told (with a bit of a smile) that IMSA was impounding cars to check their engines. Looks like they were right. Apparently it's using an air intake that much earlier IMSA deemed illegal on the Audis, so yeah they knew.
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 02:05 |
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drgitlin posted:The Audi people I spoke to after the race were adamant that the Hurácans were cheating and I was told (with a bit of a smile) that IMSA was impounding cars to check their engines. Looks like they were right. please keep in mind these are both ostensibly VAG cars
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 12:06 |
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VikingSkull posted:please keep in mind these are both ostensibly VAG cars ...with the exact same engine, and quite possibly the same chassis.
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 22:13 |
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BMB5150 posted:So you remember when Lamborghini were kicking the ever loving poo poo against everyone in the gtd class. Well they all had unapproved parts in the air intake and all have 25k fines and point penalties. Manufacturers bothering to cheat means sports car racing is finally big again.
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 23:54 |
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Now we just need teams funded by drug money and real estate scams
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# ? Feb 24, 2016 06:25 |
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VikingSkull posted:please keep in mind these are both ostensibly VAG cars I am quite aware of that. The engines are all built in Hungary. However if you think there's any love lost between the, on track you're misinformed.
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# ? Feb 24, 2016 12:33 |
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At NHRA Phoenix this weekend: 15 Top Fuel 16 Funny Cary 15 Pro Stock (All 16 car fields) Not looking good for the start of the new season
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 06:17 |
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NHRA has been trying to kill off Pro Stock for a while now, wonder if they'll make it official next year?
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 12:20 |
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Why would they kill the only good class
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 12:25 |
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Alain Post posted:Why would they kill the only good class Because NITRO ()
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 12:41 |
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I loved the FS1 telecast this past weekend. They vastly improved the coverage from Pomona and dare I say it was the best drag racing coverage since the Diamond P days?! Having handheld cameras on the starting line is great. Also Leah Pritchett owns and that's the first race of many she is going to win. Also, I saw this video on YellowBullet earlier today and it's great. It's one of the best nitro warmup videos I've seen as you can clearly see and hear when they switch from alcohol to nitro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C62J7bjpfx4
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# ? Mar 1, 2016 20:58 |
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ColonelJohnMatrix posted:Also, I saw this video on YellowBullet earlier today and it's great. It's one of the best nitro warmup videos I've seen as you can clearly see and hear when they switch from alcohol to nitro. Seeing it with this framing in the video really makes you realize that a car like this is literally just an engine with wheels attached to it.
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# ? Mar 1, 2016 21:09 |
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WindyMan posted:Seeing it with this framing in the video really makes you realize that a car like this is literally just an engine with wheels attached to it. Seems like a really good way to cut your legs off when the transmission comes apart.
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 05:51 |
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Tokyo Sexwhale posted:Seems like a really good way to cut your legs off when the transmission comes apart. Why do you think they started putting the motor in the back?
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 12:16 |
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Tokyo Sexwhale posted:Seems like a really good way to cut your legs off when the transmission comes apart. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAhsQvDscK4 e- also they don't have a transmission..... direct drive with a clutch, the clutch is what lets go
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# ? Mar 2, 2016 17:47 |
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VikingSkull posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAhsQvDscK4 Yeah i'd seen that video before, that's what I was referencing. I wasn't sure if they had only a clutch or not, makes sense since 6000 HP would just fuse everything in the drivetrain together or shred it to pieces.
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