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Casimir Radon posted:^That reflowing was a bit scary. I'd be nervous about putting any electronics no matter how worthless in the oven. I did it to a PS3 cpu and video chip, but I used a heat gun instead of throwing it in the oven. It worked for about three months after that.
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The danger with oven reflowing is that if there are any wires or through-hole plastic connectors, they'll be destroyed. Heat gun is much better in that case.
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Mad Monk posted:At work we use Dell's 90% of the time for our desktop computers. I still have a couple of those god awful clam shell cases around. What the gently caress were they thinking when they made those? Oh my godddddd I had one to these years ago. Holy poo poo. Testing new ram on this thing was fun...
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Ha we used to have one of those dells too they stand out in my mind as being a real piece of poo poo case in a vast field of lovely pc cases ive owned
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I don't get the hate for those clamshell Dell towers - I always loved working on them. The tech refurbisher I worked at would get literally dozens of them through from offices clearing out their old computers in doing a complete upgrade or whatever, and they made my life much easier. I guess if you were trying to open the case with the tower standing upright it would be a problem, but if you had the case laying down then I never had any issues with them. Even the rails and such they used for the optical and HDDs were fine - I used to have tubs of those green plastic things on my workbench just to keep them handy.
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I have an HP ML570 G2 server in my garage that I love working on - the thing opens up like some kind of goddamned transformer. It's 6U, and has basic access doors for replacing RAM / PCI cards on the fly, but I needed to go in and install the RAM expansion board in it, and to do that I had to actually open it up. The inner cages and stuff all open up and it actually becomes really easy to get to everything, it's cool. I've always liked the nicer Dell cases too, I've got a Precision T3500 that's built like an absolute tank and is fairly easy to work on. I can't recall if it's tool-less/screwless but I think it might be. e. I do always have a problem getting the mid/lower spec Dell cases closed, though. I've got an old... P4? Celeron? that I used as a file server before, and I could just never quite get the door back on right, it'd take forever.
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Mar 2, 2016 08:09
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Replaying dark souls Ii before III comes out... Man it's easier then I thought
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theultimo posted:Speaking of terrible cases, lgr posted a new video trying to fix a 2000 era PC. It goes as well as expected.
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I have an old IBM AT case that ive kept not for the look but for the way you access the inside. There are two buttons on either side. Press them both and lift. It opens the top like a car hood. My dream would be to put a LCD monitor on the bottom of the panel so I could take it to a lan party as an all in one package. Plus with all the space inside putting two atx boards plus two supplies in there is not beyond reason.
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I still think the white plastic MacBooks were the best looking laptops ever. I still use one for daily browsing/writing/music/etc. Slapped a SSD in and it's fast as ever. It's too bad it can't go any higher than 10.7.5, but I can usually find older versions of apps I need to make use of it.
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error1 posted:I would not get a Titanium powerbook, the fan in those is annoyingly loud. It's a shame because the rest of the machine looks and feels really nice (apart from the paint chipping)
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The 12 inches have a 5200 and GeForce 4 mx iBook is better in that range with the 9550 and 9200 Radeon
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theultimo posted:The 12 inches have a 5200 and GeForce 4 mx
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Mad Monk posted:At work we use Dell's 90% of the time for our desktop computers. I still have a couple of those god awful clam shell cases around. What the gently caress were they thinking when they made those? I still will never purchase a dell product for the rest of my life because of my experience fixing my old gf's dad's one od these loving things
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Mad Monk posted:At work we use Dell's 90% of the time for our desktop computers. I still have a couple of those god awful clam shell cases around. What the gently caress were they thinking when they made those? These cases also had the worst front usb ports. They were angled down so you couldn't see what you were doing, and they broke incredibly easily. If someone yanked on a usb cable, instead of it unplugging, it would break both front ports. 
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lazydog posted:These cases also had the worst front usb ports. I was the desktop guy at a place that still used these loving things in TYOOL 2015. 158 people spread across two states with these godawful cases. There's a reason I quit.
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lazydog posted:These cases also had the worst front usb ports.
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Code Jockey posted:I've always liked the nicer Dell cases too, I've got a Precision T3500 that's built like an absolute tank and is fairly easy to work on. I can't recall if it's tool-less/screwless but I think it might be. Have you ever tried picking it up? I got one at work, I just slide it around on the floor, it didn't seem like it would be a good idea to try picking it up 
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If your tractor is a relic. Why not buy a mew Kubota brand tractor?
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lazydog posted:These cases also had the worst front usb ports. haha this was my main PC from like 2002 through 2009, kept alive with RAM and GPU upgrades but featuring a P4 2.4GHz til the end. gently caress those lovely cases. dimension 2xxx/3xxx models blew cock and guess what? some models didn't have that panel that swung up. you literally had to get on your knees and look under the loving thing to see what you were doing
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My Dimension with that case has a bunch of bulging capacitors on the motherboard. It still runs, though. I assume it is a ticking time bomb.
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Ours had the motherboard fail on us. Occasionally it would POST, sometimes it wouldn't, sometimes it would shutdown during use. Maybe if I'd known about reflowing back then I'd have tried that. Of course if I'd told my parents I was going to put the motherboard in the oven they'd probably have flipped out. And that's why I don't buy budgetish computers.
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My home computer for years was a Dell Dimension 4400 (I think that was the model number) running a blazing 1.9ghz Pentium 4 with 256k cache. I upgraded the video card to an ATI 9600 Pro AIW and added RAM to get to a whopping 768MB, and that was the machine I played Tribes, Half Life 2 and Doom 3 on. Was a great workhorse of a machine and perfectly reasonable to work on, as were the many others of that form factor that I worked on later. The number of times I had trouble with any of them closing properly was very low, and they really just needed to be handled properly (occasionally that being a solid smack with the heel of my hand). The plastic cases were not the most aesthetically pleasing things in the world, but there were only a couple of models that I recall being really bad (prone to the capacitor plague, for instance, which I think the 8100 series was).
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Turdsdown Tom posted:haha this was my main PC from like 2002 through 2009, kept alive with RAM and GPU upgrades but featuring a P4 2.4GHz til the end. gently caress those lovely cases. dimension 2xxx/3xxx models blew cock
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oh jesus i forgot about the DVD drive. i bought the FEAR platinum collection and got pissed when the disc wouldn't show up after i put it in. took me ages to figure out I only had a CD drive. i used to be fuckin' terrible with computers which is hilarious to look back on now
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TenementFunster posted:haha i did the same thing with my college girlfriend. went from a 1.3 something P4 to a to a 2.4Ghz and nearly trippled the ram and added a DVD drive. good poo poo. You haven't lived until you've had a desktop-grade Pentium 4 in a laptop - a 2.53Ghz Northwood Pentium 4 sans HyperThreading. That's what I had in my 15-inch HP Pavilion ze5460us from late 2003, which was the very first laptop I bought and the very first computer I ever bought with my own money. Because I genuinely thought the P4 was faster/more powerful than an equivalent Pentium M. It turned out to be a powerful yet heavy nutsack-roasting SOB that also pulled double duty as a space heater. It had two fans at the bottom of the chassis and I think there was a smaller third fan tucked away near the display hinge. The whine it made when all three fans kicked in under load was something to behold - and I'm pretty sure it annoyed the hell out of my classmates, although no one really said anything about it being loud as gently caress all. I learned a few lessons from owning that laptop: 1) The whole "desktop replacement" laptop concept is bullshit. 2) Any laptop that has to stay tethered to its power adapter isn't really a laptop at all (see 1). 3) Heat management is absolutely important not just for longevity's sake, but to keep your nuts from getting slow-roasted. 4) Never pick a desktop processor over a mobile processor in a laptop just because the former has bigger sounding numbers. The 1.6Ghz Core 2 Duo-equipped Acer Aspire I bought to replace it in 2007 literally ran circles around that old P4. The HP lasted another couple of years before it finally disintegrated in a shower of brittle and broken plastics.
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Tubesock Holocaust posted:You haven't lived until you've had a desktop-grade Pentium 4 in a laptop - a 2.53Ghz Northwood Pentium 4 sans HyperThreading. That's what I had in my 15-inch HP Pavilion ze5460us from late 2003, which was the very first laptop I bought and the very first computer I ever bought with my own money. I had a similar HP but it was a 3.2Ghz Pentium 4. That laptop's battery life made the Game Gear's battery life look amazing.
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Yup. My NEC Versa P440 had that desktop P4 from memory. It was power hungry and loved to overheat. At one LAN party I was given a random timber offcut to raise the back so it wouldn't overheat. That piece of wood served be well for many laptops over the years.
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Tubesock Holocaust posted:1) The whole "desktop replacement" laptop concept is bullshit.
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What do people do with cmputers besides play games and type things into various office products and surf the inteernet?
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a starwar betamax posted:What do people do with cmputers besides play games and type things into various office products and surf the inteernet? Beeps and boops.
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a starwar betamax posted:What do people do with cmputers besides play games and type things into various office products and surf the inteernet? I would assume most people spend a couple of hours a day hashing out philosophy and the nature of man with Dr. Sbaitso.
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a starwar betamax posted:What do people do with cmputers besides play games and type things into various office products and surf the inteernet? My parents bought it to help with my homework And the household accounts if my dad ever works it all out
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I never really hit it off with Sbaitso. Now, the parrot; the parrot I can relate to.
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Skeleton Ape posted:Pop quiz, hotshot This is from page 2. I just want to say that is a chieftec Tower. I still use mine and it was bought in 2000 IIrc.
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Turdsdown Tom posted:and guess what? some models didn't have that panel that swung up. you literally had to get on your knees and look under the loving thing to see what you were doing Yeah that is right. It's like they were intentionally trying to design the shittiest most possible case inside and out. The little plastic pieces that cover the expansion bay slots were also probe to immediate failure.
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a starwar betamax posted:What do people do with cmputers besides play games and type things into various office products and surf the inteernet? I write code
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a starwar betamax posted:What do people do with cmputers besides play games and type things into various office products and surf the inteernet? Hack the Gibson and listen to lovely techno duh
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a starwar betamax posted:What do people do with cmputers besides play games and type things into various office products and surf the inteernet? commune with the megamind - the choir of multimedia voices
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:I would assume most people spend a couple of hours a day hashing out philosophy and the nature of man with Dr. Sbaitso. Making Dr sbaitso say "gently caress" was the best thing ever.
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